it is impossible to assist the main party leader with Autohunt. This takes away from the idea that people should group, and form better parties.
I recommend that the Devs add this feature to Aden and Classic. Add assist Party Lead to the Autohunt toggle.
This will improve the overall grouping experience, and allow parties to actually assist each other on autohunt. And not go off on their own targets in open fields.
Only other way to assist the party leader is to be active or use a 3rd party, and we all know NCSOFT does not want people to use 3rd party software.
Help out the community make the right changes for the right reason...
HammerForge
The similarities between Classic and Aden are now almost indistinguishable. The launching of Aden has been the nail on the coffin for Classic. I don't see why you cannot make classic into ADEN... the two are extremely similar, with the amount of time and money invested in toons on Classic, to see it all go to waste. Now you want the player base to overlook all the bugs, lousy enchant rates, lack of gm support, lack of effort correcting incorrect game mechanics by moving over to Aden?
Serious thought should be put into converting the current classic servers to Aden-
Serious thought should be put into improving the enchant and drop rates in Classic/Aden--- this includes all P2W items, we obviously don't have a problem with paying for items through the l2 store, but we do have a problem with paying to "Gamble" with the current rates for every single item that can be enchanted...
I saw people spend 400.00 usd to improve a Lvl 3 + 3 pendant to try to get it to lvl 4... and the pendant is still lvl 3+3 .. I know this is a business, but people don't like throwing away their money. They like to get "Gains" for their money and time.
take for example your recent patch and upgrade to Collections...
Leave it for the Collection I- gives 2% Magic Lamp Gauge Recharge.. for the a pita of only +10 PVE ADV (Virgo, Capricorn, Libra, Taurus)
As Important as the Main Equipment- gives debuff resistance +2% .. for the pita of +8 blessed belt, +8 belt, Brooch lvl 5, Agathion lvl 5, talisman bracelet lvl 5... out of those items...only the agathion lvl 5 and talisman bracelet are easily doable.
TOP-grade Gem Lv 2 Set II- gives Dmg +1 % Hp potion additional recovery... requires TOP grade lvl 2 (Jades, Ruby, Sapphire, Vital, Cats Eye Red/Blue) These aren't even out? It takes Hundreds of dollars just to make a regular lvl 5... I don't even have a lvl 4 ruby...
Top Grade Gem lvl 2 Set 1 gives dmg recieved -1%... again Top grade lvl 2s .. .. AGAIN thousands of dollars for insignificant gains.
NO ONE can get those, unless you have 20-30k to spend once the event comes out that allows you to make top grade? ...
Those recent changes "the new" collections also pushed/made people quit Classic--those gains cost thousands of dollars for crap gains.
Most people don't have 1 lvl 10 pve agathion... no one has top grade gems... few have lvl 5 gems...
you have not added C,b grade Enchant armor/weapon scrolls to the store or l2 store to help people with finishing collections, you haven't even added Improved enchant weapon/Armor C, and IEW/A Bs to the store this would be a huge addition to players who actually want to use their adena/l2 coin to push and make these collections sets (the regular ones..not the ridiculous ones).. Guess what those enchant scrolls (minus the improved enchant ones) are in the store in Aden ...
We should not be dropping car payments every month, or mortgage payments (during events) on a game we play as a hobby and to have fun with friends and clan mates.
HammerForge
The current auto hunt is lacking and certain skills do not work well with it...
Having played a little on Aden and my time on Classic. I would recommend a few changes.
1. The Option to assist Party Leader when in group with Autohunt turned on. This on classic is not that much of a big deal, but in ADEN you cannot right click an assist macro. So those people on Aden in party and assisting must be using 3rd party, unless they are live.
2. Skills should be fully right clickable like on Aden. I believe the current autohunt was made with this intent. There are skills you cannot use in classic .. i.e. Frenzy, zealot, guts b/c they require your HP to be at 90 or 30%. On Aden you got it right, those skills are right clickable from the get go..and frenzy/guts do NOT overwrite each other. Zealot (on Aden) is right clickable when ready and does not require the HP to be at 30%.
3. Because of z range limitations and b/c of incorrect spawn locations in Classic (Elemental zones, Giants Cave to name a few), which have been reported many times and over 1.5yrs ... macro/autohunting will not hit mob respawns that are bugged/incorrectly spawning. People have to be creative with aoe. to hit them.
4. Ranged toons are unable to pick up drops with autohunt, both nukers/archers... only melee benefits from the autohunt/autopick up. Need to fix this. ON Classic we can get by with an assist macro with pick up and delay. It should not be this way.
HammerForge
Thanks for the response,
So i currently have 330% exp boost. I remove my vital 3, it drops to 324%, i requip the vital 3 and it goes to 330%.
Now i remove the 7 day vital 5, the boost remains at 330% and doesn't move. Now my passives show the 15% exp/sp and sayha grace -30% consumption.
So the game recognizes it in the passives that i have it equipped but the line in the UI (bottom left) where the exp is shown .. i.e. EXP 32.6456% the boost line doesn't change when you equip it or remove it.
v/r
HammerForge
Can your team check the bonus given from the vital 5. My exp boost does not move when I equip the lvl 5. It remains the same and it should move 30% points...
Anyone else notice?
HammerForge
So last time you provided us a cats eye it had both Matk/Patk... but now you've split the two into a RED and Blue cats eye (like live server). My assumption is that you'll introduce them to the jewel box of random jewels and then we can buy lots of random jewels to work on the specific RED or Blue jewel that we'd want. So its more of a money sink eventually.
And I say its a money sink b/c ,both on live server and on Classic, there hasn't been an event or store option to buy just the jewel you want. So you cannot buy large quantities of the jewel you want to make your lvl 5, and the combine rates are dismal. Why not give the remaining players the ability to focus on Ruby, Sapphire, Garnet, vital, whatever the Jewel that they want to work on. I bet people would prefer to buy a 100 or 60 jewel box of ONE type of jewel. People don't like wasting their $$, no matter what currency its in... money is money. The combine rates are already low.. why don't you ..the Producer of l2 Classic give us all a bone and fix combine rates, enchant rates, the ability to specifically buy the jewels you want...
Anyways just my 2 cents, thank you for the temp jewel, venir, baium doll 2, rune of boost, vital stone 5 (think its broken doesn't show an increase in exp boost when equipped)
HammerForge
As far as an anniversary event, it sucked for a server wide population (currently greatly diminished as mass exodus over the past year).
But for Omega and its allies who were well organized it was great. They received every reward except 5, 3 that DidAllCould managed to get some hits in and get last hit on the Baium tower boss. They also lost 2 as they timed out and Baium disappeared (as the opposition attempted to run and keep Baium off the 14th floor)
like i said in my first line, as a server event ... anniversary event ..pretty crappy.
As a stand alone event , it definitely rewarded the organization and pvp brought on by Omega and its alliance. If you would have it as a non pvp zone on the 14th you would have seen the server attempt to get up there and stay and try to get last hit... more participation, "probably" a different distribution of loot among the server population. But that's just my thoughts on the matter.
HammerForge
Instead of being helpful GMS seem to do everything in their power to not do anything, by giving "canned" scripted responses, specially when it comes to the restoration of items. I have not done a full on restore with my accounts as I've been waiting to do so, but now i wonder if 'll be able to as i keep reading in discord multiple people, more than 10 having issues with the restoration of items.
Lets look at this example, I went on vacation and visited a real life friend who i also play lineage 2 with. I log on to my toons while at his place so we can play together.. siege/raid whatever. Now our accounts are "tied" by IP.
So if he attempts a restore on an item..no biggy, then lets say i attempt a restore (on a clean item) the general tendency is to state that you are exploiting the store policy - "your account is connected via IP to an account that has already requested a restoration on this item category or item" (OMG, what do you mean ITEM CATEGORY)
If you insist and say that that's messed up, you already approved in a previous ticket the restoration ..you receive a warning "please be warned that pursuing this may lead to your account as well as other accounts connected via IP address to be denied restorations in the future. Regards Senior GM Wrath"
So my understanding is that "EACH" Account is entitled to "restoration tokens for the following categories (Weapon, Accessory, Armor, Dyes) per token period (January to June or July to December)" So why are you treating it as an IP thing. The accounts themselves get token refreshed, what does it matter if its the same IP. I have more than 10 acounts between my household, so I'm exploiting if I use restore tokens on each of my accounts? .. They are YOUR rules, its insane what you guys are doing.
You should just give up the restore policy and fix enchant rates to "reasonable" rates. The fact that you have a restore option but your GMS aka Customer Service Support are not consistent in their policies..or cite that you are exploiting by attempting to restore items is pure Malarkey... uphold your own rules or change them like you consistently have done with the restore policy but don't play games with your player base, its insulting.
HammerForge
My bad..frintessa Necklace... not earring... OOPS it was late..and i was tired.
L2 Community,
What do you need to do well in L2, you need gear, lvls, and buffs.
to get the lvls you need gear, to get the gear you need adena (or ncoin, or gamble at the l2 events), to use it all you need buffs.
party requires, wc, prophet, bd, sws, shilien elder, warlock. But you you don't promote grouping @JujiFolks make more experiance, adena (if in a zone that drops adena) soloing/duoing. Box the support and kick them ...so the solo person or duo makes all the experiance. There isn't much incentive to add people to parties...
why require a bd, sws, pp, ol/wc ... might as well bring the ISS class from live server to classic... less toons to box or play .... (that will fix lag) this isn't l2 classic or old school lineage 2 so don't worry about having iss..
There is nothing we really gain from doing as a raid force the following raids :
No real gear from any of that. Special Crafting - is the only real way to get stuff ..which means you need adena and items to convert into points and gamble it away. No real sense of accomplishments.
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Many suggestions out there ... i'm sure you have read them. Here are some additional that i have not seen..or maybe missed
I'll stop there- look at the rewards --- they are not worth the time to do and worse are the enchant/success rates on a lot of these things (i'll devote another posting to that later)
good night
HammerForge
Valid points, appreciate your input. This was meant to have people talk. I don't expect everyone to agree.
@Beppler- to each his own. But i don't see you on Leoz... ? not good enough to play it in that event. As always people will gear/tune the toon to take advantage of the current game mechanics and toons power (your GK is super OP), but anways.. 5mil to join the event hmmm possibility, but then you exclude lots of folks as well.
Lag problem is game mechanics/server .. we've seen it with the CAKE event that the cancelled what like 2 years ago...everytime there is an event that gives rewards like this, the entire server goes...but things should be easier now that the server population is low...but there are TONS of mobs as well for this event... reduce the number of mobs might help.
@Juji as you see, @Beppler's solution is to charge more, and decrease the area so his side can pk everyone ... There are no real consequences for pk.
I believe there would be more posts here, but i believe people have given up on reporting bugs (that never get fixed), reporting issues with game mechanics which people abuse, being in raid bosses, or pvp, pk, etc... look at the long posts people have been posting ... i'm still waiting for you to "Produce" and make l2 Great Again...
Come on down to Austin if you still have offices there, gladly drive up and buy you a StarBucks and chat.
HammerForge
My perspective from talking island... So not sure if you have been following the Baium tower event but you should watch it.
Things that don't make sense,
Suggestions- as its a server wide event-
By making it an open pvp system with last hit, its a pk fest on the top floor if you make it up there. Where was the dice event we all were waiting for... guess it was too good to us players so you didn't bring it back.
Look at the server, the community, whats left of it, those that are left are still waiting for the fixes, updates, "cough cough" class balance?, daily instances, we've all waited some more patiently then others....
Feel free to disagree, agree or post other suggestions, always need the community to speak up and give the producer feed back and ideas for improvement.
HammerForge
On 2/12/2021 at 9:03 AM, xCaim said:The problem with stuff like this is the transparency involving the whole update procedure. We got detailed patch notes for mundane things no-one cares about and there was no information concerning reduced adena rates and L2Coins not working like before. Moreover, the patch notes were released 1 day prior to the update deployment, this by itself is unacceptable for a major update.
It's unprofessional to change the rules of a game without any announcement, it shows disrespect towards your player base and customers, your communication skills are severely lacking at best. Company politics need to seriously be reconsidered IF this business is to remain afloat, @Juji @Hime transfer this complaint to the upper ups, don't just accept this situation and remain in the sidelines while this whole project inevitably sinks.
xCaim,
I agree with your comments... it is "TRULY" unprofessional they way they run these servers. Besides what you have pointed out, they change the rules when ever they want to suit their needs.. i.e. the Restore policy for items that blow up..... How many times have they changed that? they have even changed it mid event (first time the Belts came out, they changed it mid event) Had a friend fail a +8 combine to +9 and the changed the policy while he requested the restore..so he lost the belt. The policy for restoring items has always been Vague, upto their interpretations, you never get a CLEAR answer from customer support but thats how they want it. Example number 2. Anakim/Lillith runes-- you try to + the anakim/lillith rune and you fail the combine and get one. You would expect that if you restore, the only Rune that gets flagged is the one you recalled. From GM Zai, "To Answer your inquiry, yes, the even though one rune is not destroyed, both of them are not eligible for restoration." .... and previously i know from other players that they had restored the remaining one upon attempting to combine it again with no issues.
There is no consistency with their policy. Truly unprofessional.
HammerForge
yep massive DCing and server lag.
Looks like people disconnected/crashed at Siege twice! massive crashes-- @Jujiare you looking into this?
@JujiSeems like the SK's cubic is causing crashes to the error screen/bug report.
We had our SK stop casting the cubic and the crashes stopped. Took us 4 days to figure it out.
Please do some PC/QC with your launches, i feel like i'm playing open beta but no one listens.
Again, you fail to "FIX" any real issues with the game.
Before i go on the negative side,
Pros-
1. the removal of the +10 jewel to make +4 boss jewels is a good addition. Plus the 100mil cost "NO FAIL COMBINE" to make it a lvl 4.
2. the PK system changes are a "step" in the right direction but you gave everyone a pass who have 600-700pks and basically cyber bullied their respective enemies for the past year.
3. The ability to share within the account A-grade Imprint equipment, Activation Armor (Imprint), Talisman of Fate, Dragon’s Belt, Gems, Talisman (of Speed, Aden, Eva), Talisman of Baium (Imprint), and Heroic Circlet------- from that list only baium imprint, talismans (speed/aden/eva), gems, Heroic Circlets- talisman of fates are tradeable
4. the addition of new armor from the crafting system- too early to tell, don't understand it to well yet.
5. Arrows weight reduced to 1? why not just make them Zero. Why penalize a class that unfortunately isn't played much due to the Over poweredness of the Summoner/nuker classes
6. Addition of Core/Zaken doll-
Cons-
1. You have not fixed the debuff system a. Can't see debuffs on raid bosses/mobs/players. Have not adjusted debuffs by allowing us to lvl them past lvl 74 etc to land on HIGH lvl mobs (i.e. TOI mobs, Raid bosses)
2. Adena/Exp rates need to be adjusted. When you do exp/adena events no one complains- then you remove it and we are back to nickel and dimes, slow exp. TOI floors 5+ difficulty of mobs and experiance gained from hunting them are not worth the time.- Also debuffs hardly land on these- goes pack to point #1
3. No content update- Epics still drop loot at same rate, but now you have made lvl 5 jewels require a lvl 1 jewel and its a FREAKIN 3% to 4% chance respectively.
a. Epic Elementals don't drop Chapter 4 buff books or for example more of certain items lvl 2 armor stones, etc... limited rewards
b. Frintessa Epic (instance) Have never seen it drop a jewel. Should add Chapter 4 buff book to it. ADD Chapter 4 codex and 1-2 codex to it as well. Fix jewel drop rate chance.
C. Antharas still unkillable even with the powerful lvl 90s on the server.
4. Instance Zones need more daily instance - Add Butler as a daily instance- Add more rewards to Baium/Antharas/Zaken instance, Clan Arena once a week, make it 2 or more times a week.
5 PK system not sure how that will stop people from abusing the pk system .. to early to tell- Should have penalized them by negative attributes and power... 50% after 4 pks (or equivalent karma), 75% after 10pks (or equivalent karma) lets see how it goes.
@Juji thanks for a new update, but we also need the directors vision of where you are taking this game. The fan base can tell you have very limited to no input on this game. We came to play classic but instead we have a hybrid and a p2w system. The ingame content does not provide enough activities for active players. The server populations have died off due to broken game mechanics, lack of true customer service support to protect the player base from online bullying/harrassment, or pking to protect their adena farms/adena making instance (Butler Key aka Tomb of the Ancient Pirate). Your prices for Chance to succeed is disgraceful and comes down to just pure gambling. I urge you to fix the game mechanics (debuffs), raid bosses drop rate/loot tables.... make the risk/vs reward worth while for a raid force....its just sad doing frintessa Raid getting 4 items, and only one of them people even care about... I've yet to see Antharas killed. Fix the rates... drop rates, adena rates, Combination rates so that people can enjoy your p2w events, honestly remove the chance from it, people like to get what they PAY for, not a chance. All of this has been discussed before. And we are still talking about it.
HammerForge
yep it does, but they should fix it. Mobs should not spawn on walls. Where auto next target wont target it. Its been going on for 2yrs and they dont' fix it.
Mobs in FoG, Mobs in WoA, Mobs in GC.....
CLEARLY they don't care. The cloak event posted on the official site showed the live server cloak stats for classic, all last night. Looks like they finally noticed their mistake and corrected it.
I agree with your comment about the re roll, Summoners are the flavor of l2Classic...nothing is better. I've seen it. look at the siege field and 90% are Summoners/Nukers ..with the majority being Summoner mains. Nothing like being a nuker, with more matk then regular nukers b/c of spirit sharing and how it scales.
Need some class balancing...
HammerForge
If i remember correctly you don't even play. So stop trolling the forums. Its a legitimate question. There is currently no way to tell when something has been restored. And since its part of the game, people should know if the item they bought is restorable.. It would add value in a way to the item
Beppler made a good post. He did have a frame of reference. So as you put it my whining, lecturing, scolding?? Served well as a basis for him to cut and paste and just make bullet points. I have yet see you post something constructive in agreement or disagreement. All you do is take cheap shots at me. Even Beppler didn't do that, and we don't always see eye to eye on things. Learn from him.
Same applies to you. Both you and sheorc aren't adding to the post. I know both of you in game. You have lots of experience and time playing Lineage 2. Make posts that show your knowledge of the game, and how to improve it.
I missed and didn't talk about Olympiad, Beppler did. I don't know everything but I do see the game from "my foxhole", my frame of reference. You guys have yours. So post your thoughts about improving the game. If the game is working perfectly then don't post.
HammerForge
Obviously you are two scared to post with your in game name and you didn't read my post correctly. Stop trying to derail the post with your insinuations, that have no bearing on what I posted about. Instead you should agree or disagree with the post, and add your 2 cents and opinions. This post is to point out things that need fixing with the game. Anyways the post will have a life of its own. Folks have been playing this version of the game for almost 2 full years now. I'm sure even you have some good points ...whoever you are. Hammerforge
Bare with me as I point out a few issues with L2 Classic. Classic turned out to be a bit different the most of us remembered. Skills were different i.e. Raging Force did not reduce HP when used, Frenzy did not scale when HP dropped below 60% or 30%, Soul Crystals vs Classic SA's (here did 30%HP go, Conversion, etc go), Summoners are the nuker and melee of choice (super OP, not a balanced class), No noble or subclass available so no way to buff NOBLE…every time you die you lose all your buffs (Noble buff was never added to the game, it was part of the Castle items you could get from the Castle….but then you took all castles away except one …Giran). Raid boss jewelry statistics were diminished and the actual jewel was not the original l2 stats…the boss jewel were watered down, you needed 4 regular AQ rings to make what was still a slightly less than what I remember jewels being on the Live version (granted I have a Tauti Ring and a Ring of Creation..so couldn't compare). But you would think that since you need 4 to make a full ring, or 8 in the case of a lvl 4 AQ ring, that you would make the drop rate 100%. That would make killing the boss and equipping members something doable for an alliance of lets say 100 peeps more manageable and people wouldn't grow old waiting to get their epic jewelry. Instead the drop rate was maybe 20% for all boss jewels. One of the first implementation of NCSOFT tweaking drop rates to create an artificial scarcity, that would later be used to promote P2W sales that had Epic jewelry as possible rewards. The addition of cloths to unseal A and S grade for no apparent reason then to create more of a grind and "encourage" the player base to buy into some events that had cloths etc. Your Ancient Kingdom cloaks, their effects were watered down from live version… my +7 Elmore Cloak on live has 50% PVE damage for 2mins as opposed to 30% pve dmg for the same cloak…
I will try to capture most, not all of what should be and can be fixed within the L2 Classic game.
@Juji These are my thoughts, my opinions and suggestions after being a LINEAGE 2 PLAYER SINCE OPEN BETA, I have a few more but I already went on too long. You've been at the helm of this game for a while, your knowledgeable, you've communicated openly with the community through the forum and through things like JUJI's lab, but what we need is more fixes to the current content, and soon, not fix it when most of the people have quit. We need more GM interactions to support the player base. Understand that this is a game, and it’s a business for you, but we can't throw our money away with your events and get nothing from them, we can't keep playing a game where the EULA is not enforced ( no harassment, sexual or otherwise, cyberbullying, pking for exp/hunting spots, items and extorting adena) to include enforcing it for the use of 3rd party software… OR change the EULA and allow 3rd party as your autohunting doesn't cut it, I hate to say it but botting seems to be ingrained in the Lineage 2 DNA. It is a slap in the face when you @Juji log in to the server and the number one botter (s) shout for you to ban the bots. It is ridiculous. I don't know if you can or will change anything that I've mentioned, but I needed to get it out there. Too many players don't bother posting on the forums b/c nothing ever happens, people stop reporting b/c nothing ever changes.
I'd like to remind you of your Producers Letter - January 2019- You were engaged and excited about L2 Classic and Changes to Live server. But most of all was your last 2 paragraphs where you stated,
"One of the most pressing concerns from the community is the topic of botting after the launch of Lineage II Classic last year. Since the launch, our security team so far has banned thousands of accounts… I would ask that players continue to be rigorous when submitting bot report tickets to our support team, so we can remove cheaters that have made attempts to bypass our detection methods. Lastly, we Truly appreciate all the feedback we received from players after the launch of Lineage II Classic. Your feedback was vital in helping our development team improve the game for the community and we hope that you will continue to send us feed back for the betterment of Lineage II.
Sincerely,
These were your words that brought hope that you would have a bot free game, fast forward 21 months later…NCSOFT removed the XIGNCOD3, the bot report button in the action bar, and any successful "macro" group in high level areas is using 3rd party software as your auto hunting does not cut it with the difficulty level of the NPC/MOBs in these areas. 3rd party botting reports get the usual canned Customer Service response and nothing changes. They continue investigating and never let you know if they closed the investigation or at least let you know whether it was found or unfounded.
Not sure how long I'll continue to play this version of Lineage 2, but if nothing changes then part of being an adult is knowing when enough is enough and that its time to move on to other things.
Sincerely,
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