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Lol, what do you really expect man.. Do you think they are running the server on a home pc with one ssd for the O/S and one hdd for the data... That's low even for a home pc, with modern standards.. I have no idea what exactly is their infrastructure but i can give you an idea of what modern high-performance systems look like.. Modern systems are fully virtualized, meaning they have a minimum of 10 virtual servers with 3-tier architecture running on each physical server.. Physical servers are using a minimum of 16 CPUs which are server only with very expensive licenses and they have a minimum of 4 physical servers just for redundancy, usually much more.. RAM is a minimum of 1 terra on each server.. Storage is of course on separate machines and probably NAS technology with full stacks of ASA disks is used (the new scsi).. Needless to say this equipment is really expensive..

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botting and selling L2 items for real money is against the company's policy and yes they can be considered illegal in this sense... However, they are not the cause of the ridiculous high prices we have in this game.. They are probably the result of it... That was my point in this topic.. If somebody needs to call FBI, that should be the company itself, but it seems that they don't care or they are maybe earning something from this.. How else can you explain the fact that real money traders are openly advertising their websites in-game?

You are not wrong but not exactly right either.. The prices are determined by demand and supply in an economy.. Also, bots are maybe creating adena but that doesn't mean that you or me will have more adena.. You will have to pay the bots for adena, it's not free.. The actual euro/adena rate hasn't changed despite the bots.. For example.. Lidvior's earring price is getting increased over the last months.. That's not because bots are pushing more money in the economy, but because there is no more supply of such earrings.. The boss was removed from the server and it's almost impossible to get a lidvior from an event.. So the one that determines the supply is the one that affects the prices, especially in this game's economy that is like a monopoly in the real world.. The company itself is the only factor affecting the prices.. That's a fact.. Putting the blame on bots is like playing the company's advocate..

Yes unfortunately, sayha has been really neglected by the dev team... A series of nerfs a few years ago has led this class close to "extinction".. I really hope they will make it more relevant for pve and for pvp, in the future...

bots are not responsible for the high prices on items... 100% responsible for these prices is the company itself..

This company never stops its efforts to prove that there are no limits to ridiculous...

Adena are better than ever now.. I hope they remain this way... thank you Juji

+ they deleted a few items that could generate some adena, like for example Savior's Enchant Scroll Fragments... It seems that these were exceptionally rewarding as somebody said in the past.. Now Helios and Etina, which are probably the most high level instances, will only drop appearance modifiers, like anyone really needs these crap that you can't even sell to NPC shops...

No mate, you lost the point of this thread and came to talk about something else... You are wrong here, as well as your example, and attacking ppl for no reason.. There is no chance for Djokovic to lost by a guy with a boosted racket because there are rules in tennis and any player who doesn't respect the rules is disqualified.. This has nothing to do with pay to win.. As a matter of fact, someone has to pay huge amounts for training and equipment in order to reach the top in tennis... So there is certainly a pay2win element there.. What you say is like telling me that all the top football clubs do not play fair, because they spent huge amounts for their players.. This is wrong and this is the way it is for anyone as long as they abide by the rules.. Although i don't like the pay2win element as it works in L2 now, you should understand the difference with what Liti said in this thread..

My understanding is that fair play has nothing to do with pay2win... Fair play doesn't mean that all will be equally strong in the game or that someone who doesn't spend real money will be able to beat someone who has purchased all the items in the server.. Fair play means that there are rules which should be respected by all and when these are not respected by some, then the company has the means to enforce the rules.. When the company clearly states in the T&C that buying adena from third parties is prohibited but allows bots openly advertise in-game a real website/company that sells adena, there is something obviously wrong here and fair play goes out of the window.. As i said in another thread, any company has legal means to turn against other companies when there is such an obvious offence like this, but here they don't.. I can certainly make many assumptions why this happens but the certain thing is that a company that does nothing to enforce its own rules, is a company that doesn't respect itself and certainly doesn't respect its players/customers, at least the legit ones...

Very well said.. Apart from the fact that only 1 in a 1000 gets "lucky" through these events and the rest just take minimal rewards, mostly garbage, for their investment, i can't really understand the situation with the adena sellers... How can a company tolerate the adena sellers logging into its own game and advertise websites for adena selling, is really a mystery for me.. They could certainly use legal means to shut down the advertised site but they don't.. The only reasonable answer to this is that the company earns from these adena sellers and something really illegal seems to take place here.. Of course i don't expect any official answer about this anymore.. As a matter of fact, i have come to terms with the realization that this is a company that acts as a real scammer and just trying to protect myself like everyone should do..

Yes as it is now, you will need another PC or a VM for more than 3 clients.. You also seem to ignore the party matching window.. You don't just wait in parnassus for someone to invite you... If you look at the bottom bar of the L2 client in-game, you will see a button called party matching.. Press this and a list with all available parties will appear.. Then you can find a party that suits you and double click to enter the room.. An invitation will then come from the party owner (or not)... I hope this helps..

And i do find funny that you still believe a PC can run 5 L2 clients but cannot run virtual software.. I can also play with 7 clients but i am not that selfish to think only about myself and leave other people who just want to play with 1 character, waiting in queues, lagging or not able to complete quests because of the huge bot armies..

As these people from "top clans" explained more than once, if new players need more than 3 accounts, they can use another PC, or if they cannot afford a second PC, they can use virtual machine software which is free.. What is so hard to understand here? This restriction will certainly limit unnecessary boxes, and most probably if performance improves they will allow some more clients.. In addition, if by new players, you also mean "free" players, its time for them to understand that equipment, medium and above, cannot be obtained without NCStore.. It's better to understand now than later in any case... If they hope that by logging 20 chars in the game they will get good equipment, they better learn that this is not gonna happen... At least not in the next 5 years.. I can't say that i agree with all these insane prices in the L2Store but this is a reality.. It makes more sense to me to ask for lower prices than to ask for no prices at all or to ask for unlimited boxing..

Yes thx all for your answers.. In any case i think my point remains that the description of the item is a bit misleading since it only increases "your share" of adena drop..

Yes it makes sense this way.. But these ain't really simple maths.. I just forgot how maths work in this game.. In simple maths, the adena from mob should be tripled and shared between me and my iss, we should share the 30k as per your example.. As it is the total amount shared is 20k... Any way thanks for clarifying that..

My question is different and doesn't have to do with gears and best combo for farming.. btw nothing can compare to a stacked up feoh or archer currently in the game... My kill rate and gear are not bad.. Thx anyway..

According to the description of Prestige Rune, it increases the drop rate of adena by 300%.. Well, i've noticed today that this is not true when you are in a party and the others do not have a prestige rune too... It's easy to check now with the double adena event (which is quite good by the way)... When i am farming solo, i get 30k-50k adena per mob.. When i invite my ISS to the party who doesn't have a prestige rune, the amount is reduced to approximately 15k - 30k per mob (the sum of what both toons obtain ofc).. I can easily prove that with a video... @Juji Could you please check this and confirm that is indented please? To me that's a false advertisement... The rune doesn't say that it increases adena by 300% when all party members have it.. I understand that this is not top priority for you but please check.. Thank you

Have you tried inserting North America in the area selection?

You should choose North America on the Area Selection field on the launcher.. Even if you live in Europe or wherever you should select North America.. I guess that should be the problem..

I agree.. It would be better to just pay a monthly fee and have everything you need in game.. I just have to add that the monthly fee and the in-game grinding should be reasonable, not like today.. However, watching the way things go lately, i find extremely optimistic this to happen..

That's maybe the cost if you upgrade successfully on all stages.. You forgot to calculate the fails that will inevitably occur because there is a random chance.. In any case, if that would keep players on the servers it could be good, but i don't think that's the case any more..

For the calculation i did the assumption that only NCCoins will be used and that 5 bottles can be obtained every 50 bags.. If someone has opened 50 bags, he/she can enlighten us about the actual amount obtained.. However, i don't think it will be much different... And this amount, even if it is the half of it something like 5k, it's not for a top pvp item.. It's just for a stage 1 necklace which is actually the equivalent or a bit better than a blessed valakas one.. For the top item, someone should reach at least stage 3, which shall be done with triple the amount and the chance mentioned... So for reaching stage 3, someone would roughly need 3 times the amount of stage 1 and should be more than lucky to achieve with the company's chances.. This is to me the most expensive item ever, even compared with the brooch jewels which were already insanely expensive.. And i know that people are spending thousands of dollars in the game.. But even these people will say enough is enough at some point.. Noone likes to be scammed or milked like this... We should all step back and understand that this is a game, and games are to be fun, not cash deposits..

Yes we can crystalize 2 valakas necklaces to have a chance to obtain a gran kain one... And we all know how the chances work with Korean random.. This company has a strange sense of humor...