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Posts posted by Divekio

  1. 1 hour ago, Methodical said:

    my 2 cents for this thread,

    all in all the OP wants to clean his enemies before they get inside pvp zone!!!

    but now that pk rules have changed nova hoorrays am I right divekio? you cant pk them without worreing.

    another 2 cents the pk rules are nova exclusive ncwest feature rofl


    Thank you for understanding .

  2. 10 minutes ago, KingNothing said:

    how can someone grief u from a clan that has no war and u cant do the same? Are u only able to win fights when u dictate the rules? Fight them the same way they fight u. 

    This only shows how low your game play is, instead of a good pvp u want gank ppl from hide with full skills on. 

    Try to evolve as a player and change the game with you gameplay instead of claiming devs to change the game rules just for you.

    Fight them the same way they fight us ? Then they should make all the clans with maxim 14 players . You all just talk out of hate and impotance to pvp not based on any logic . 

  3. 2 minutes ago, Nawdur said:

    why is unfair if u dont have war with them and they dont have war with you? that is fair, force a clan to get a clan war cos want to participate in a game event that is harrasment.


    I see it is too complicated for you to understand, i tried my best, sorry maybe you will understand later, not everything in this game reduces to harrasment .

  4. 4 minutes ago, Nawdur said:

    that is where u wrong u keep mixing things, the part of exist a pvp zone make a pvp event that is not need clan war.

    kill them, maybe u are mistaken the thing cos for me is a bug that a kill in pvp zone count for clan war. when both are signed in same castle dont count :)




    I am not mistaken , in order to get to the pvp zone one has to pass through safe zone . To explain you more , while clans who have wars can fight allong the way this players in the 14 players clans unless flagged people have to pk them, and as the pk system it is now it is difficult do that . So for that i say they have an unfair advantage so if the pk system changed this 14 limit cap for clan wars should change also .And that is only part of the problem, this people do kill other clan by pk for farm spots and those clans cannot declare war to them because of the 14 player limit .Not everyone is willing to be pk like this bullies in 14 player clans. Thank You for replying to the post.

  5. 13 minutes ago, Nawdur said:

    u are mixing things

    fight for sword have pvp zone

    fight for castle have pvp zone

    clan war no need pvp zone.

    they want participate on game events, but dont want a 24x7 pvp.

    go and pk them and be happy

    having 14 members clans have bad things too, friendly fire beteween friendlys clans for example.



    I dont want pk nobody, i want all who participate in pvp events and are tagged in clans have the same combat rules, not as now , when this people abuse a game mechanic to gain advantage in pvp . If it is no advantage about it why you all cry so much you dont want it changed ? We want play the game nice not exploiting like you.

  6. 1 minute ago, Nawdur said:

    u are trying to force a clan war in things that is not involved cos have PVP zone, so if they attack u, they go pink, kill him u dont need a war for that.

    or u can kill them inside the pvp zone.

    u are trying to force them into something they dont want to be involved cos they participate in siege/swords.

    that sound like harrasment


    It sounds to me like exploiting from this clans, cause if they wouldnt want be involved in pvp they wouldnt pk,grief or participate in mass pvp , waiting for clans who have wars to use skills then they hit after,taking an unfair advantage . 

  7. 2 hours ago, CaptainSmiles said:

    I've been in a few clans under level 11 since I've returned. Each one has had a war my MS dropped on them for no other reason than to grief. The only reason "Love"Banditos (yeah, talk about love, right?) didn't declare war was because they were "rebuilding" and trying to stay off the radar. With MS gone, Divekio wants to steamroll over the server's lowbies, to ensure his clan can become the next MS. You're upset that you don't have all the control and power to dictate when and where you fight. YOU WANT COMPLETE POWER OVER EVERYTHING DIVEKIO. Let me tell you, the world doesn't work like that and the game of L2 doesn't revolve around you. If you want to win PvP, then flag and make it work. But if you're losing to 14 member clan consistently, that doesn't say much about the 14 member clans, but it says everything about your clan. If you can't win against a 14 member clan as a "powerhouse" clan, you may need to reconsider who you're adding to your clan and what type of player you are. But alas, it's your way or the highway it seems, right?

    I am not talking about low players in low clans , i am talking about big players in 14 players clans griefing others and taking advantage of this for pvp  . And as for LosBandidos clan , we do not pk players , we do not ks, neither declare war unless clans or players that attacked us .No clan on this server can say got war declaration from LosBandidos for no reason . Thank You!

  8. 4 minutes ago, Degus said:

    You aren't really asking that dumb of a question are you?  I'll give ya a few mins to think straight if you need.  And your not actually accusing others of bullying are you?  unfair advantage?  Honest players?   lmfao, dude, just stop!.

    We talk here about 14 player clans who bully others and gain unffair advantage in sieges,swords,pvp . You go lvl , come back talk to me when you wont be 1 shot . Thank you!

  9. 1 hour ago, Degus said:

    2nd thought, man up and dark castle, or stfu

    Why would we make dark castles when there are players who just stay in 14 members clan and kill our clan members without us beeing able to war them ? System is out of date and needs to be changed not allow this 14 players clans bully honest players and have unfair advantages in pvp,sieges,swords. 

  10. 1 minute ago, Eyeknot said:

    there you go again. your talking about ppl are exploting this and that. and that the GMS have to take actions. but what about you? every singel time ppl doesnt agree with you your start theatening them. (you should watch your mouth) , you sit in hero chat saying that everyone should be kind to one and other . and then the next min your starting to being toxic towords everyone. and starting with your threats. if GM's should do anything , it is taking action to you and your dumbass threats to other players

    Nobody threaten anyone, stick to the subject toxics . 

  11. 14 minutes ago, ABnD said:

    First person I blocked in Chronos was you when I first started back. Nothing but toxic vomit comes from you. Those who live in glass houses Divekio...

    And if you have a glass jaw you should watch your mouth... we talk about 14 players clans here and the way they use it as an unfair advantage. What are you talking about ?

  12. 1 minute ago, Aleira said:

    just let the topic die... there is no arguing with divekio.  He is too stubborn to see any perspective but his own twisted reality. 

    there have been some valid points made, but in the end, it comes down to 1 of 2 things... either bullies being uphappy that they cannot bully as effectively as they wish, or players recently banned and grasping at straws and lashing out at others in an effort to blame others.

    The ones who bully are the ones in the 14 members clan , for all the rest the PK system was adjusted so go be toxic in other place .

  13. 11 minutes ago, Aleira said:

    it was a summary of what you said.  totally allowed in the media world.

    It is so obvious now for all the players on the NCSOFT server that you guys are just toxic , exploiting game bugs and same time reporting others for making honest mistakes as a teleport who most people tought was part of game . For this toxicity you spit the l2 community sadly i hear will be smaller , some people will quit because they are tired of your toxic game play , and an example of the game you play is this post. I hope GM's will look at this and take actions as they did with the teleport . 

  14. Just now, ABnD said:

    The system doesn't protect people who want to pve, it actually hinders their ability to when a bully such as yourself wants to bully. The 14 member clan is just protecting itself from bullying and making it so they have the control when and where they want to pvp. Nothing more, nothing less. 

    It is not that when they go arround and pk other players and participate in mass pvps or sieges with clans that dont have the same upper hand as they have and for that the system has to be changed or not allow this players flag .

  15. 2 minutes ago, Dargor said:

    So if someone in a clan that has declared war to mine decides to set up his macro on top of mine I have the wonderful choices of a) start a war in a pve clan, b) drop tag to pk, c) find another spot. As for consequences for participating in siege, lots of people stopped participating in that altogether due to the inevitable later grieving, not to mention a 14 member clan that can actually pose a threat to a bigger clan will have no problem dropping wars within minutes.

    My topic here is about how people abuse the 14 members clan system . I understand your saying, what i talk about here is how this players abuse this system to grief others or take unfair advantages in sieges,swords or pvp, while the system itself is designed to protect players who want pve and none of that .

  16. 1 minute ago, Anything said:

    Actually it is not fair either that as defender of a castle you suddenly get "certain clans" showing up that are NOT signed because they have their own castle and they throw a war before they arrive.

    Either you have to suck it up and take the war or abandon the castle entirely.
    This is a major turn off for any kind of meaningful pvp imho.

    If any go to siege must face war consequences as you say , and that should be for all clans not only for 15 members + .

  17. 6 minutes ago, Dargor said:

    As others have described the war system can be abused both ways. If both clans had to accept war and there was a considerably longer penalty for leaving clan there wouldn't be much room for abuse. However, I'm absolutely certain that doesn't suit the needs of griefers and they'd fight tooth and nail to not have such a system be put in use. When you omit half the truth to get a solution to a very real issue, but tailored to your desires, you may as well cut the bs and say what you had in mind in the first place.

    It cannot be abused both ways because PK system changed a lot . Now talking about sieges or swords pvp , while players in clans with 14 + members get war activated by pvp ing in siege and if flagged , the other players in clans under 14 players do not activate war when killing other players so if not flagged one has to PK them when they move from safe zone to pvp area , where they can kill other players without war starting for them . This system is unfair at this moment and doesnt apply to the game as curently is .

  18. 6 minutes ago, Hydrogen said:

    I am talking about game mechanics from my own experience, i am not aware of what MS/FS/Nova or ProPVE does and not belonging to any of that side.

    And my own experience is that being in a pve clan, we got declarations over a hunting spot, just to leave from there.  When my clanmates defend for themselves and killing the bully, a clan war appears in our screen. For an isolated incident, a clan war. Makes sense? No. 

    So my posts are strictly to game mechanics and own experience. The current system is bully friendly, and has to be change.


    In that case , if a clan pk you and you dont want start war, killing the Pk does not start the war.I understand what you are saying but PK ing has penality. My problem is about clan under 14 players who abuse this system who is intended to help people like you . It is just not working anymore in the way that was intended and has to be changed . 

  19. 3 minutes ago, Aleira said:

    lol... has it ever occurred to you that not all clans want wars?  We don't go around hunting people, and don't really look for trouble at all. This is a game mechanic that allows people to defend themselves from toxic players, of which Chronos has/had plenty. anyone who wants this change is just mad because they're unable to grief us freely. 

    Divekio and MS: "Please GM's allow us to grief anyone we want" 

    Yourself just pk'ed our members as today, GM can check your logs so dont talk about toxicity, when you are abusing a system created to help new players and clans. You are a game mechanics exploiter and we wait for severe actions against players who do so .

  20. 12 minutes ago, ChocolateChip said:

    110% Agree that clan with under 14 members should not be allowed to participate in Castle Sieges!

    The castle siege is about pvp, why would this clans witch are not able to have clan wars would be allowed go in siege zones. They are exploiting the game because siege is not only about the siege grounds, pvp happens outside siege zones as in clan wars also .

  21. 2 minutes ago, Xiang said:

    what nonsense are you talking about?
    you took advantage and did the same in magmeld
    are you crying now?
    turns into a boy.
    before we cry about it we must wait for them to fix all the problems of the game.

    FYI i never played in magmeld server, we speak seriously here if you just came to flame please mind your businiess.

  22. 3 minutes ago, L0RELEI said:

    There have been multiple times where certain clans were forcing war declaration kills. What ure looking for is basically "hey if we war u, u wont be able to attack us, because i know u don't war. But we will keep trying to get our war up with u by force flagging just like multiple times before". 
    Doesn't seem fair now, does it? I mean, even if u get a war on the 14ppl clan, whats stopping those ppl from just detagging and doing same thing? U can't declare wars on untagged people either.

    And whenever 14 ppl clans "run around griefing other players and clans" as u so put it... u can fight back, cant u? They are flagged aren't they? How many times have u been the one who "runs around griefing people and clans"? It was even recorded. So please, carry on about how 14 people clans "run around and grief people".

    Then whoever is in a 14 player clan and pk another player should be permanently banned .