You're right. I understand how it works. And why NCWest allow it. But I am right too. I mean that only real players buy NCoins. But how do they like to play with total bots dominating? For me, I don't like. I have ATM 300 pk count on my main(toons have more) due cleaning spots in rift 100, etc. Why I should buy and spend expensive scrolls? For me is OK fight for spots against real players, but it's absolutely not interesting to kill bots. When I see the same bots for 2 months, I completely understand that our beloved gms do nothing. They hunt only for real players. I do not want to say anything, but what if NCWest sell adena into black market by itself? It's looks like that because they do not ban farmer bots and do not ban seller bots. They do nothing. About bot "lords", they might live in any country where is internet. But solid is that they are not affected by these stupid restrictions. Why "stupid"? Is this smart not allow new clients, ban old and hire bots?