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  1. It is unfortunate that they don't have a gm log in and handle the situation. Wouldn't take more than 30 min a day hitting various GK's.
  2. This has to be the nicest request on here. I would like to see some form of answer to this
  3. @Hime Would it be possible to get a semi detailed answer regarding what actual steps are being taken to address this? Such as tracking Mac - ID's / internal components / external IP's etc. Banning accounts wont do much when they just create another account (it just delays them). Just curious, if not, I understand you are busy tending to us and our numerous questions ^^. Hope you are having a great day. ~Happy Hunting
  4. Just going to repost this as this is the proper place for this The problem isn't a one way problem, it is bi-directional (with both botting and adena selling). You have several ways to tackle the problem in my eyes and im sure they have been mentioned countless times. Until both sides of it are address there will be always be a player who wants to buy and someone who wants to sell. Naturally, if there are no sellers, one cannot buy, and if no buyers one cannot sell. Adena sellers: Legalize purchase of Adena through NC Shop at a severely discounted rate, making it highly dis-favorable for adena sellers to sell This will eventually blowup the sever economy, though eventually it will stabilize at a much more inflated rate. Limit chat restrictions Highly unfair to the community and honestly the laziest way to delay the problem Run Scripts in the BG that search for key words and or phrases that auto ban Can be highly problematic if executed poorly Live GM For the love of all that is holy, we need this Punish Sellers This needs to be done timely and effectively Punish Buyers This needs to be done properly and transparently so that the community knows it isn't accepted nor acceptable Botters Legalize botting No, nope, no sir, Legalize Looping Macros See 2.1.1 Ban Botters Seemingly they are working on it as fast as they can, though from player accounts the bots have a greater force when it comes to account creation than NC does when it comes to banning Some legit players are going to get caught in the mix, give them a healthy way to provide some form of proof that they were not botting. Some botters are going to pretend they are legit players, come up with some punishment / redemption system in the bg where GM's can take notes and apply bans over time properly again should these get through the appeal process Live GM See 1.4.1 Ban the people selling accounts Shouldn't be that hard to spot Ban the people buying accounts Shouldn't be that hard to spot Another unrefined alternative which could potentially work would be to open a transfer only server I suppose. Similar to a b2p system. Just a server that at level XX you can transfer to for a one time fee. This way a botter would have to reach a certain level, pay a transfer fee, and managed to not get banned. Should they get banned, they cannot create a toon on the server, it must be transfer etc.
  5. Howdy, Hope this helps ^^. Spellbook Chest Dimensional Gift Dungeon of Abyss, [Daily]
  6. My point in short was, I don't need to experience something to know my personal preference on a topic. That's like saying you don't know if you like something till you try it (something I don't agree with). To me a looper is only marginally different from a botter, so marginally that, I would classify it as botting. Why is it a problem for people to push their own buttons? Why are people looking for something else to play the game for them? Why would you even want to play a game... if what you are looking to do is have a program play for you? What joy do you get? What value does it add? Why not .... watch a movie? Do something else? To me when someone says I want to loop, what it really means is that I want to be able to pay very little to no attention to the game, get decent progression, and when required do stuff. To me when someone says I want to bot, what it really means is that I want to be able to pay no attention to the game, get decent progression, and when I chose to do stuff, I am able to. To me when someone says I want to play a game, what it really means is that I want to be able to devote a large portion of my time and attention to this game. Meaning that I am actively partaking in whats going on in the game. So what are people dreading, well.... What it seems like I am dreading is walking out into the world and seeing people who are looping for hours on end, mixed with people botting hours on end, and when a live person wants to go out into the world and do something that have to do with what are basically just bots looping or botting in fields where they would like their friends to hunt for a common objective. So yeah, I have an issue with looping, I hope I was able to clarify it for ya, also there are more comparisons I could give ya that you would just say are unfair as well. Next time, try adding to the conversation. Thanks and happy hunting.
  7. So... I have never shot myself in the foot either, and I have a strong feeling that I wouldn't be happy about it, if I did.
  8. While this is true, and given that this is an opinion topic, it is my belief that this is the single most critical point that will seal the deal for a lot (majority) of players. I for one had no idea that looping was going on in live (shows how long I have been out of the loop... xD) though, they take that to Classic and man..... it will just become what everyone is trying to avoid. Every room / zone filled with people afk, botting, or looping.
  9. How to kill l2 classic in 1 step, imho.
  10. They deleted it because from their policy this isn't the place to put it, they will ask you to kindly submit it to support; despite this, they have no control over other media platforms. As for the botting issue, On Gludio we (Unrest) just train them repeatedly, and they leave the zone / don't come back / don't rez / or it takes them too long to get back / we train them while they come back / etc. Sure it takes some time, maybe a death here or there (EXP makes this irrelevant), but that comes down to bad luck. My current recommendation to get them out of your spot(s) is to just train them, PKing them wont solve anything as it is currently broken and the report process will take take its time; just train them + submit your evidence. If they are coming back to the spot very quickly after death, then perhaps you are just to close to a port in, try moving to a location that is a bit further out of the way (Once again this is not ideal, I know). Granted this is by no means the perfect solution to the problem, though it has been working for many of us. Also in the past they have griefed us, and we have had to concede our spots to them from time to time (we do not always win the spot, less so at lower levels). Despite this, I personally have been able to level a few toons to 5x+ and several to 4x+. I trust that you will be able to as well. Happy Hunting
  11. to be fair, this is resolved with a GM. The current system that is in place saves the company money, that's why there is no GM. They could potentially pick up a few GM's for little to no cost and it could help, problem there is that you have to trust those people at little to no cost, and paying them would be against what they want to do... So its a problem, with a known solution, and its just not one they want to apply for whatever reason. Now, that being said, they are actively banning bots after submission of videos, we have active evidence of this.
  12. I have a question, since we are not allowed to have public outcry on the forms regarding bots. Is it acceptable to live stream zones where the bots are, making it public to the masses? I am only asking for 2 reasons. The first is, because I was assisting my wife with her class change quest as shes a first time player, and ..... some of the areas we had to run through / compete for mobs are just riddled with bots.... you can even drop 1 adena on the floor far enough apart from them and have them in a loop till the owner comes to correct it. The second, is why are you making it increasingly more difficult for the players to get rid of bots? Three quick examples are, no item loss on mob death, bot reports increased from 3 to 10, and the inability to remove PK counts. So, since we cannot as a collective come to you guys on the forms with videos / pictures (and expect help), are we allowed to go to other forms of social media, such as, but not limited to, Reddit, Twitch, Twitter, and FB (In an effort to see some change)?
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