Ishmila

here are some threads that didnt get answered from Dev team .... https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/19620-summoner-summons-at-110-too-low-level/ https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/24358-dual-class-skills-and-passsives-for-summoner/ https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/24307-the-negligence-of-summoner-class/ https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/24214-wynn-after-update/ https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/18456-homunculus-wynns-forgotten-yet-again/ All these have the same problem. Summoners cant kill in the new zones and need to work with new gear, new skills, and need overhaul all together.

I have been posting for a long time now, but maybe we can get some information. The summoner class CANT kill in the new zones, at 119 my pets are maxed out at 117 and I cant kill in the new zones because the defense and attack of white damage is too low to be able to xp. The accuracy of the pets are too low, and the sharing of servitor passives does not work. Also the passives of dual class skills does not work either, and I have been told by NCWEST that this is working as intended. As a 119 with almost top gear of game ( +10 limited set, all greater jewels, all +10 artifacts, all greater charms and blood weapon) I can barely xp in a 114 zone, and I Cant level in the respective zones I should be able to ( cemetery, hot springs Valley of saints) . I can actually xp in all these zones just fine on any other class but summoner cant kill in any new zone, you need to fix the class because its YEARS behind everyone else. A tyrr or deathknight can do these zones at 115 but I cant do these zones at 119 and the summoner needs a HUGE fix... at least 10x the defense hp and attack would barely start to fix this. Also ALL passives need to apply from the summoner to the summons , too much gear is based on passives given and summons do NOT get the passives from all the gear. @Arctic @Juji @Hime

yes exactly , from a AAA gaming company its pretty bad response time to actual issues and game play.

I think we should get the books returned to us for what we used for forgotten skills and its turned into collections for the whole account. This would encourage players to stick to multiple characters on one account and for dual class's and enjoy more of the game. As of now to make ONE +30 skill it costs $1000 USD. I think this is abusing the players left in the game and not a service to players. to make 3 +30 skills on main and dual class, it will cost $6,000. Cant wait for NCsoft to give me a reason for this.

This post was made Sept 2020 , it is now 1.5 years later, and the "update" made pets 117.... but.... everyones 120 or 121 and raids are 125. This is is absurd that the summoners cant even do raids if they wanted to.

Does NC west going to stop the use of 3rd party programs any time soon? they have been in use for years and there has been no indication of NCsoft to stop the use of programs. I think a good approach to this is stop perma banning people, do a 15 or 30 day ban, it affects those harshly enough that those days of not logging in would affect many things in the game and would act as a deterrent people from using programs. Thoughts ?

this needs to be looked at , Bump for Dev team

bump for Dev

bump for Dev

Currently NONE of the dual class skills work on the summons of a summoner. They only work on the summoner character but not the summons and this is a flaw in the game design. I would suggest that dual class skills and in fact ALL CHARACTER passives are given as passives to the pets, this would greatly affect and fix a lot of the problems with summoners of a summoner.

not bad stats, I almost want to say things have changed since the update last week, sadly its not much different really

This affects very little people but to those it affects its a HUGE impact, I dont see why they cant make summoners worth a shit again honestly. They worthless and if you check the ranking there is like 3 people playing it over 115, so maybe instead of ignoring it, you fix the class please!!!!

I have played a summoner for many years, and when looking over the forums there is just a plain disregard and negligence of the class in pvp. In the past few years I have tried to press about the class to improve the pets, improve the skills landing etc and NCsoft has not made improvements. Every other class has gotten changes for the better to adjust to the new zones, new skills, new classes etc, but over and over there has been no changes from NCsoft. The biggest change NCsoft did was change summoners from 4 to 2 pets back in GoD update, since then there has been no real boost to encourage players to play the class again. The skills dont land still, their debuffs are not even on my bars because they dont land ever, its worthless. The pets are one shot and cant even compete in pvp on the scale that other classes are. There needs to be a major overhaul and improvement of the class. I am more than happy to give input and help fix the class but for now they are still irrelevant in any form of pvp. As for a game thats really centered around pvp, this is quite sad to watch happen. Suggestions: please boost the pets by at least triple of all stats, as well as increase pvp dmg of pets by at least 10x as of now I hit high lvl geared players for 30 dmg.... 30 !!!!! I am quite geared as well and this is just pathetic damage when players have 1 million hp .... NC soft Fix the class and contact me please in order to move this forward. @Juji@Hime @Arctic @EMpulse

no the dev's didnt improve the summoner enough to be able to kill in the new zones efficiently

@Juji even though pets are 117 now, they still cant hit bosses because of evasion and lvl gap. Raids are all 125. What are you doing to correct this?

They let us hit raids after 2 years ... waiting to see if they fix our pets too

summoner lives matter ! thanks for fix for me

this took 3 years to be looked at , now what is NCsoft doing to fix the skils that were recently updated that still dont land? exile, song of silence and many other skills

get 120 https://gyazo.com/55cc1910c664e02ffa88045593b9950e

almost 2 years since i made this post and its irresponsible to ignore a class. I hardly call this professional

Hey NCsoft, so the update came out today, and my pets still are too low level and dont do any dmg in pvp, what are you doing to solve this https://gyazo.com/07eaa819281ac4fcdafa5cc4b46b7234

With the addition of collections why cant we have forgotten skills somehow converted or we get books back and turn them in for collections? one skills 1-30 (you can do 5 on main AND the Dual class) costs right now with event $700, which means $3500 for main and $3500 for dual class. So a total of $7000 in forgotten skills if you get them all. This is a set price by NCsoft through the night market coins and no other way to get them in game since it does not drop and its purely a Pay to win advantage. Lots of end players paid the money to get the advantage but how is this healthy for the game or the players to have these high prices set? I suggest we turn forgotten skills into collections to use account wide and not just main or dual class on an account. This would requite some work on NC to do this but it would be better for players all around since collections was introduced.

I been waiting 2 years for an update.....

Im confused @Juji Sword drop is now, and ends in 6 hours, this is in the middle of the work day for US, how is this friendly hours for an NA server? me and many others are not off of work and all events over. Swamp 2pm, swords 10am-4pm raids 11am -2pm I mean.... if this is an NA server, why are all the events Monday-Thursday in the middle of the work day? Thats the time Euros have on their server....

The time now runs from 1pm PST/4pm EST till 7pm PST/ 10pm EST you want to make it earlier, who would come ? This is a NA server and the earlier the time the less competition because most players on this server are NA and work during the day, its already starting super early so it has little participation when it starts, like 3 people chase the sword at the start because people not even on to participate.