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  1. To tell the truth both will be hard if you wish to solo, the DPS is just isnt enough, unless you have some OP gear and money.

    If I were in your place I would choose SWS....  Then I would create a warcryer + BD + summoner, and PVE with the 4 together.

  2. That is a lot... :)

    If you focus for the early-game and just want to have fun (pre lv50), your reasons are probably ok, you can play any class and kill some monsters, the power is more gear than class/skill dependent.

    For mid game and lategame pve, you will need 3 things to be somewhat efficient:





    So you need to find friends with classes which supports yours (rare), or create your own boxes and run multiple game clients at once in window mode.

    Since you already created 3 character you can try to level each of them to the same level, and then login all at once and create a party with them.


    Setup1, melee:

    Wizard will be the summoner (warlock) and use it's summon as a main DD.

    BD will assist-attack DD and use dances to buff

    Elder will use buffs + heal.

    In the longterm you will need a 'vampiric rage' + 'haste' buff so I advise to create a warcryer too if you choose this.


    Setup2, mage

    Wizard will be an archmage/necromancer, and use firemagic to deal damage

    BD will be a tank with agro and use dances to support mage damage/casting speed.

    Elder will use buffs + heal + recharge for mana

    You will need an empower + acumen buffs at least, but for acumen you can buy potion from grocery, and you will need more mana so I advise to create a shielen elder too for empo + mana.


    Good luck.

  3. 7 hours ago, Wawa said:

    Hi, I am lv 33 dark elf who wants to be a BD. My dual sword just expired and disappeared. My adena is only 300k. Looking for common item weapon like old lineage but it seems doesn't exist. The cheapest single sword cost 500k. Now I'm weaponless. How can I continue to play this game? How to get adena to buy dual sword when I change my class to BD? I need advice, please.

    Thank you in advance 

    Hello, I would do the following:
    1. Go to Giran harbor, talk with a fishing npc to start a quest.
    2. Finish the quest in 3min and get 10 day fishrod
    3. Buy bait and fishing shot, and let your character AFK fish for 10 day.
    4. From the fish buy Stews: Vampiric rage lv1, XP boost 30%, check market price and sell with afk seller.

    Meanwhile you can start new characters if you are bored, farm or fish with those too. You will need buff + heal at least on the longterm so supports are needed.

    or you can try to find a clan where low level active players play (somewhat rare).

  4. People do not really important from game engine point of view, the number of characters online/moving at the same place is the factor here, 200 people can log in 4k char.

    I remember when we had those cake events with 2k char in elven village, there was large lag and we cannot really move and I fear the better the graphics the worse it may get. However I am not an expert so I honestly curious about the opinion what advantage a new engine would offer next to the "shiny graphics".

  5. 1 hour ago, MrYalef said:

    Is that the reason the game is full of bots? There's even automatic play ... Is it because of lack of time, really? They say no, L2 is not a P2W game! That's why the post ... A little outburst ... There are other ways to make money than thousands of items that break the original mechanics, the essence of the game ...


    Clicker type of target/attack/skill and the heavy grind also have effect. I am not sure who say l2 is not p2w, but as far as I heared in Korea pay to win is actually not a bad thing, it simulates well the social hierarchy so players willing to blend in and try to gain advantage through hard work or trickery or money.

    Just saw a video about some l2 history from a gamer point of view, if you will have a free 30min check it out. (subject is a bit confusing,but it isnt about rage)


  6. 13 hours ago, MrYalef said:

    Hi everyone...

    I don't know exactly how to get started. What I have to say is simple indeed, but I think there are several players who feel the same. Lineage 2 is a game that was part of our childhood and adolescence and brings us a lot of nostalgia. Several of us would like to play that "old school" where it is difficult to get items, which would eventually spark the resolve; something that moved us to run after. Adulthood calls, but there are those who would have time to play the "eternal L2". Is there any possibility ...? Is there anyone who can bring back some of those nostalgic moments ...? Would it just be my vent or are there others who feel the same ...? Ah NCSOFT ... Why not test a really "old school" server without all the facilities of the so-called L2 Classic? I would love for that to happen and I hope this day comes ...

    TLDR: The framework changed a bit, however the players habit and goals changed much more.

    I understand what you talk about, however not just the software changed but the playerbase too.

    15 year ago if you played a few hours more than other players and read some information on web, you was the king among the hordes of newbies. Also when you are a newbie that also has its own magic. Currently 95% of the playerbase is much more efficient, know every trick/tip/class/skill, powerlevel and rush to endgame gear, farm and camp.

    Even on an interlude server, players know they should start destors with support for PVE and archer/mage for PVP, rush for draco bows and arcana maces. 95%+ play with ambition and efficency. It is not the same as 15year ago, when the comparision was diablo2 and it felt great even to be a random warrior participant on a castle siege.

  7. You can log as many chars as you wish, the limit is the performance of your pc. However you need to close the launcher and restart it after each of them.


    10 hours ago, veld11 said:


    It starts shortly, and I would like to know, how many windows can the game open?

  8. Hello!

    I am playing in Giran (classic), and currently at lv78. Started to play L2 around 2006 on private l2j servers.

    The state of PK in the past was very different and there are several major factors which affects the current sitation.

    The most common reasons behind pk which I experienced or commited in older L2 chronicles were:

    • Clan confrontations but 1 side was not willing to declare the clanwar, usually the other side was more powerful (member, gear, etc)
    • Clearing up farm spot, or taking over a raid/epic.
    • Bot killing.
    • Someone was bored as hell, he tried to enchant some of his gear, then go to a last PK rampage and quited the game.

    It was not too hard to workdown the karma if you regulary done the sin eater quest and your PK count was below 10. Was easier to defend against PK because you had CP pots and manually controlled your character, so runaway, bsoe, pots + pvp happened frequently as an answer to a pk attempt.


    Current reasons in Classic which I experienced:

    • Clearing up farm spots. 24/7.
    • Extortion. “If you pay some adena/euro I let you farm here for a week.”
    • Damage. The XP which is lost is no joke at higher levels, esspecially if someone do not have high % ressurection skill. You loose fix 4% at death.

    We have autofarm, so people use it, and some who are more ambitious even use bots. With this autofarm some the population feels that the creater legalized bots in some degree.

    It is very hard to defend yourself when you are not even at home, so pk is easier. Also there were cases when some bot owner group takeover a place for adena farm (like ruins of agony), they farm with 25-30 different parties, buff all of them regulary with scripted path following buffers and has shifts to defend their territory with the account shared PK classes.

    There are no CP pots just hp pots which are not that effective to reset the intial damage. Usually people only want to start pvp when they are at full cp/hp and do not feel a disadvantage.

    Elf summoners has a horse which has very-very high AOE damage, and also can use it while he is mounted. This class is about 95% of the PK chars which I see. It is seriously OP without too much gear, you just need to be somewhat skillfull with targeting and keep enemies out of range with speed. This class is far more imbalanced than any other which I ever seen while I played on some really bad-custom-setupped high rate servers too.

    We have global GK, which let a player even with karma to teleport around the world which is actually works as an infinite BSOE, you just need some adena. So escape for players with karma easier than ever.


    Players adjusted to the situation and setup as always, and the situation and setup in classic servers feels somewhat grim because of the reasons above.

    Good luck with your work!

  9. 29 minutes ago, Stallone said:

    Is there a possibility to merge the servers? when will you do that because gludio is  dead

    That would not help too much, You would get 1 bigger dead instead of 4 smaller. :) 

    Just think about it, add all the number of bots together into 1 server? Standing in city would be better maybe, but once you go out? Do you know how much all those silent elf horses defecate around? just the smell alone :(

  10. I try to help, but I am not an expert.

    1+2. No. At least not easy to setup this perfectly.

    Here are a few things which you can try: You have 12 slot in a macro and with a rightclick you can set it up in "rotation"

    For PP:

    /target hawkeye   /heal   /heal /buff1  /buff2   /assist   /attack    /delay 10    /target hawkeye   /assist    /attack     /delay 10

    For WC

    /buff 1 /buff 2 ... /buff 9 /attack /delay 1140

    This way you can get 2heal 2buff from pp (berserk, BTB) while it even try to attack/assist, but you need to setup the delay time to an amount which let you regenerate your mana. and be in balance. The WC will just use buffs in every 19min.


    Also, I am not sure if using clicker mouse macros are against rules or not, but if you have such a mouse or software you can try to create multiple different macros and then a master macro which click on each of them at regular intervals. But first you should get a confirmation if this is against the rules or not.


    3. You need to be in range. Try to create a macro and pull it to the "attack icon" in the autofarm window. The macro can contain something like /attack /delay 4 /attack /delay 3 /pick up.

    This way you may first kill the mob, then start to run to its corpse for 3sec, and then attempt to pick up. FYI, it may slow down your total progress.


  11. 25 minutes ago, MisteRoger said:

    Status xp/sp, more atk and status dyes... if will happen, I really prefer to play Archer, and how could it be beneficial other class...? :S

    They should also have durability, and when it reach zero, a fast moving pikachu with zariche would spawn next to the archer and attack all elemental summoners in 1600 range with killing intent.

    That would be beneficial for other classes. :)

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  12. 11 hours ago, fallensoldier said:

    Good for you! Hope they always unlock your accounts, because otherwise there will be nothing you can do to reverse it !! It is none of your business but my accounts are all clean, I play the same way in all and only one has been blocked .... More my complaint here is not for the lock but for the lack of clarity in the process! I do not know if you are 10 years old or just stupid, but Forun is to post questions, complaints and suggestions ....

    Age and stupidity has nothing to do with each other. According to my current experience, most people get more stupid when they grow older because they start to grow their false self confidence. Also, you should not be rude at a Forum, it decrease your chances.

    Are there anyone who knows the acc/pass/mail access of the account which got banned, I know it is very rare, but sharing account is actually against the eula and account can be locked because of this in some cases.

  13. 1. Yes, as far as I know the current limit from Dyes is +5, negativ limit is not exists but I guess you cannot go below 0.

    2. There are the usual limitations about 1st/2nd/3rd class change only, healer only, warrior only, you can read these on the dyes itself.

    3. Yes, there are some dyes which provide higher bonus stat than negative stat like "+2stat -1 stat", I have no idea how can you get those. Also you can check info here.


    4. As far as I understand WIT and INT stats are better than MEN most of the time if you want to improve your offensive abilities and do not care about M.def or Mp.regen too much.


    Some advice:

    - Do not use dyes before lv40, stat increase there isnt mean too much and they will get obsolete soon.

    - Use essential dyes after lv40 which support your farm style. Also +WIT dye on elder/bishop can add addtional % when you use Res skill. Keep in mind to do not invest too much, since they will also go obsolete at lv76.

    - After Lv76 try out your options how to farm/progress/pvp in the future, and dye accoringly, the price tags on these are higher, so try to avoid reorganization if possible. 

    + info: I forget to mention, but after 76 you can get bonus stats by each level, and you can get some passives. For example: Orc warriors can easily reach 50 con with dyes, while orc shamans can easily reach 45 men for the +200pdef/mdef. Consider the bonuses which are achiveable with dyes + statbonus+ setbonus +clanbracelet+hats+cloack+whatever items you can get from cash. :)

  14. 22 hours ago, jgk21 said:

    Hello, I have a lvl 50 treasure hunter and a lvl 49 prophet box. I'm using c grade theca leather set and dark screamer with othel 6 focus. My prophet has a top d grade staff with iss rune mp regeneration on it. Currently i find myself in the need of getting B grade armor set, but i cannot set up afk macro because i keep dying. Even if i use normal heal instead of group heal and support with autofollow. I cannot afford soulshots and i have zero adena at the moment so i really need to farm adena. But since i cant set up afk macro it seems impossible and im stuck. What am i doing wrong? Should i switch to heavy armor and shield on my TH and not care about evasion? Can you help me find a solution? I really want to get back to playing.

    You have several options:

    - Start afk Fishing, buy XP/VR stews from your fish and sell them for nice profit. Use shots for the fishing and the more clients you can run the better.

    - Create new account with new characters which supports your current setup, Bladedancer/Sws is really needed for levels above 60, Summoners are OP AF without gear.

    - Try to play the market, needs time and have some risk, but if you manage to buy things cheap and sell high you can get some profit.

    - Do not use auto-macro-farm, do it with the normal way when you control both you character, I guess you will not die that way.

    - Join a good clan or CP if you can find one.


    In your place I would start several new account if your PC can support it. BD,SWS, summoner and also maybe an elder for normal heals/recharge. Level them with quests to 20, do the fishing quest with all of them + your mains (or buy fishing rod/bait/shot) and then start the 10 day afk fishing period. Sell the 30%XP/VR stews, you will have some cash to invest into buying stuff and re-sell with profit. Then level up your 4 new character to ~48, and join with the 6 person army together. You will have much better autofarm options if that is the goal, since you will have a summon to tank, the summoner to heal it + normal heals from elder + song dance around 58 will help a lot. :)

  15. 1 hour ago, ESN said:


    I am a new player and would like to know more about NCoins because information provided in the website shop is lacking.

    Where ingame are these coins usable and is it worth it to invest in some.


    Thanks in advance.


    There is an ingame moveable window, with a button "l2 Store", usually it is around the "minimap/radar" with standard UI. You can access and check the stuff there which is buyable for ncoin.

    Is it worth it? - Hard to say, this is heavily depends on the user. I myself never had any, since I do not need cosmetics, and I think ingame advantage for money is a trap and also somewhat against my old-principles. I think that the VIP levels, starter packs, cloaks, hats, xp boosts etc can give you an edge so if you want to support the developers and have some money to spare go for it. :)

  16. On 2019. 11. 07. at 1:38 AM, Manza said:

    Hello server ! 

    I am a newcomer and got some questions regarding the "best" manners to level up both solo and preferably party wise. I am currently level 18 and so far everything has been done on my own. 

    Whats the best way to level up as a new player? group? solo? locations?

    Is the party finder dead? I have never managed to see an active party finder, I would really enjoy to hunt along some mates.

    By the way I am a human archer... Thank you all ! :D

    First I would say, you need to decide how you like to play, and what is your goal:

    - Do you want to play as a melee and hit with your weapon?                                                                 //   Ranged maybe like a wizard/archer?

    - Are you willing to use auto-macro farm and leave your pc on while you are in work/school/sleep?    //   You only want your char to level when you drive it?

    - Are you willing to use multiple accounts to create support for yourself?                                             //    You only want to play with 1 client?

    - You want to be competative, reach highest levels and top gear?                                                       //     You ok by having fun while mostly do PVE only?

    - Are you willing to spend money to get extra gear, vip, lottery?                                                           //      Pure F2P?


    Ofc you can also mix up the things and see how it works, just do not forget to have fun while playing. Once gaming get tedious, do not forget to change something.

    If you just want to level at the early stages of the game and decided on the preferred class, it is adviseable to create some support character or find a clan where there are active low level support chars (probably rare).

    You will need some buff and some heal and also some way to collect some early money, you can try go fishing or something like that.

    The so called " best" leveling places depends on class, gear and members in party but always try to hunt monsters which are about the same levels as you, because you can get some nasty penalties if they are too out of your level range.


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  17. 1 hour ago, Godfall said:

    No VIP System

    No Macro Looping

    1 Client only (Monthly Sub $12.99 USD so NC still makes money)

    Events that are farm based only. No Ncoin purchasing to play L2casino (lol)

    L2 Store only consisting of maybe some cosmetic stuff , soulshots/hp pots and maybe something like a variety of mounts. 

    You know you can actually play like this here, you just need to re-adjust your mindset about caring what everybody else is doing. Just like in most single player games, you may use cheat or console command but you chose not to, since it would ruin the fun. It is the same with L2, do not ruin your own fun. :)

    There was a long post here on the forum sometime ago about Pay-To-Win is a hoax. You think you pay to win, but you do not actually win, just paying for the illusion.

    Players who pay a lot are stronger than those who do not pay/bot/macro/9box? Yeah, sure.

    Are they have more fun too? Well it is up for debate. :)


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