Why should the topic just "die"? Your abusing and exploiting a game mechanic on purpose so you can exp in peace without war along with everything else in game, but you want all the perks of being in seiges/swords. You exploit the system and now cry about it. 5 clans MASS PETITIONED to get 2 Clans BANNED from game for a "exploit" ALL 5 CLANS USED FOR YEARS. But when it didn't work to your advantage you petition it, dont' give me this bull "NC Soft said don't do it" because we know all 5 clans involved in MASS petitioning break the TOS/EULA EVERY DAY. I used to seriously have respect for ProPVE except a few *they know who they are* joked all the time etc, I've been nice, fun, and respectful and I don't break the rules. But you sit there day in/day out and SLANDER my clannies/ally members, mass petition them for what you 5 clans do, I've been griefed by all 5 clans being in a PVE clan trying to level up. You have disrespected me at every turn but claim that ONLY MY CLAN DOES THAT. Stop being a liar, literally you just need to stop giving half truths and lying about so many things. I've been nice kept quiet and kept my head down, I've had issues with my clan/ally but as a whole there is really some good people in it. Not saying all 5 clans don't either, but there are bad apples in all clans. STOP lying, STOP telling 1/2 truths, and STOP trying to ban people for the same thing everyone abused for years and years and .. did I say YEARS? Just like your abusing the 15 person rule, say that your not? Your just lying to yourself maybe you should have 7 day vacation, your castle stripped from you.. Or now people are calling for Armor/Weapons to be taken or levels even? Ya the thought of that sickens ya doesn't it? But you want to make others suffer for the same thing everyone has done for years.. This server is so TOXIC the people that play it literally make me sick to my stomach with how rude, evil, cheating, and vindictive.. I love the game but I literally hate all interactions with most people it literally makes me physically sick.. Why are you all so EVIL to other people?? WHY DO YOU WANT TO CAUSE SUCH TERRIBLE HARM TO OTHERS????