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how long has toi been opened......how come no1 farms above toi4? sure we have all gone up there to kill mobs and yea we tried farming some masterbooks but its just not worth it.....and entire zone with many floors and no1 using it.....do you think maybe the mobs are too hard? do you think maybe the xp doesnt scale with the difficulty? where do mages get the opportunity to aoe? toi is a melle zone.....where is the same xp adena lol equivalent for mages? maybe open some new areas? maybe give us some content? we are bored and dropping like flies...your latest update has all but killed classic.

where are we at on all these suggestions? https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/24294-update-regarding-adena-and-l2-coin-drops/

so now you want another thread ? we have been telling you everything for over a month and we are stuck with this bullsh. You took away the VIP sysytem and did nothing to show any kind of loyalty to the people who continued to stay VIP10 this whole time. Not only that you have nerfed our toons because of it. We have lost valuable stats that help us farm in the hardest places. You dropped the rate on lcoins by 67%. You dropped the adena rate to 25% of its old rate. You have made farming in any level unsustainable. in 20 hrs of farming in toi4 i made 20 million adena. Do you know what it costs just to get toons able to level here? Do you know what the daily consumable costs are to level here? There are no drops to speak of. I could go on and on but this is simply ridiculous.

xp and adena nerfed. l coins nerfed. how are we supposed to xp and farm the higher levels of toi? you realize no1 is on toi5 and above? why were new areas opened? where is the content? All you do is change existing content to be more difficult to access like Dyes.

This is such a slap in the face for those of us who were extremely loyal and kept VIP10 throughout this entire ordeal. Think about the amount of money we have spent to keep vip10 for so long and your response is to just give us some vip coins? Our toons now get downgraded. +4 stats is a major deal. You are taking away items we actually paid for? You cannot be serious. I stockpile vip scrolls for when xp events come and now you are simply taking them away with no consideration at all. I highly suggest some sort of loyalty be given back to us. We have shown the loyalty to you. How do we replace the +4 stats and damage we are used to? I suggest giving us a permanent venir 24 at the very least. this gives us those statistics back. Also how are we not given the new level 3 status? I have paid to be level 10 and now its simply gone? comeon guys you can do better by your customers here. This is truly bad customer service

open up more areas to hunt. even Antharas lair is becoming crowded now.....where is hellbound...monastary of silence.....comeon guys you need to add some content so this isnt boring......there are no quests for anything anymore.....mobs drop absolutely nothing....it costs 100 mill a day in lair of antharas for a full party to xp and nothing drops....part of the fun of this game was getting a full drop, doing quests, working toward a goal.....now the only goal is the next level which has no skills to learn.......comeon guys! its embarrassing what you have done to the dwarf class. They virtually have no reason to exist....spoils are non existent, no crafting....since mats dont drop and spoils of mats dont happen you have made crafting absolutely cost ineffective!

@Hime I am nowhere close to being the best writer but the pvp changes you have made need some explaining please. Its possible i am illiterate and have bad comprehension but i am reading that if I am on auto hunt i will attack an enemy player and if they are white (no pun intended) I will go red and they will come back and kill me and loot my items i drop. The whole thing is pretty confusing. https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/19847-pvp-system-changes-1072020/

no such place exists. LOA is the best xp but costs me 38 million in shots per day(just shots). GC is good money but terrible xp. You cannot level sustainably anywhere on the map which forces you to buy ncoin which is why they do this.

Most of what hammer said is true aside from the instanced epics. Epics should be fought over by the top clans.( Problem is there is one giant zerg of active high level superbly geared alliance that no1 can contest. The #2 alliance simply doesnt have anywhere close to the activity required.) Most of what Beppler said is also true and can be agreed upon by most. Some of you in here do not like Hammer and it shows in your posts. This thread is about fixing the game and making it better for all so that more people play it. In that case hammer is absolutely correct in 99% of his post. Most of the population arent pvprs. They are farmers. The problem is NCSOFT has made farming impossible. there are no drops. so they introduce gambling boxes and other p2w events to introduce items in the game that allow you to farm higher places with lesser "normal" gear. There is absolutely no reason a Level 85 toon should be wearing a grade items unless those items are extremely enchanted. NCsoft makes S grade available but no cloth to unseal it? Instead of fixing the issue you make a fake gambling craft deal so we will spend lcoins, instead of fixing the drop rates. So now people who have their sealed s grade find it useless and have to repurchase unselaed s grade from this fake crafting bullsh.. Fix the drop issue. It has been a problem since day 1. You introduce all these adena sinks everywhere but do not fix the adena drop rate. We cannot even support ourselves using spiritshots based on the farming we are supposed to be doing? We should not have to pay $350 a month to play a game. Dwarves....Where is the spoils? How are we supposed to get recipes when the spoil rate is 0? Fix this! Summoner Classes. Completely overpowered with transfer pain and instant resummon. Something needs to be done here. I dont think you nerf the summoners damage but you need to reduce transfer pain or the ability to instantly resummon. Hell if the delay in resummoning was 30 seconds that would be great. It wouldnt hurt too bad in pve and in pvp it would sort of make a difference.

https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/19430-juji-why-were-drops-nerfed-in-loa-and-dv/

posted this a week ago.....went from getting 30-40 a gems and many pieces of a grade weapon parts nightly to getting 1-2 of each if lucky. https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/19430-juji-why-were-drops-nerfed-in-loa-and-dv/

Simple question Juji, Why did all drops get nerfed in Lair of Antharas and Dragon Valley. No more parts no more a gems which allowed us to farm these places and get back a little adena. Now it is completely nerfed in this update WHY?

they nerfed all drops in LOA and Dragon Valley

ya see this is your problem. You think everyone should play the way you want to. I dont come online to make friends. I come online to enjoy some free time and build a character. If i wanted what you want I would do so. Its funny that you think my life is sad but you need to come online to find friends....pretty interesting lol

also please remove the 10 client limit. absolutely ridiculous i need to use an extra computer to have my adena party going. makes 0 sense why you would do this. on top of pay to win now you have to have 2 comps.......ridiculouss

Drops have been nerfed heavily in both Antharas Lair and Dragon Valley. Why do you keep doing this to us. You add the crafting system which you earn points via drops but you completely nerf the drop rates? What are you thinking here? There is no reason that mobss in any area 1 hit or 2 hit toons of the same level range as the mob. Absolutely ridiculouss. 1 death at 85+ is hours of xp. You have to give us a way to farm cloth pieces reasonably. The drop rates are severely low and it takes 75+ to unseal S grade. How are we supposed to do this? It makes no sense that we are level 80+ and using A grade.

Pretty broken dont you think? I mean lets be realistic. Who should have reflect damage? Tanks of course. No issue at all with that. Thats their job. And kudos to the people who have build based partly on reflect damage but it kinda ruins pvp dont you think? Wouldnt it be more fun to have longer fights where skill is actually involved. But if im a hard hitting mage i basically kill myself in a few hits unless of course i have transfer pain which i dont. But seriously reflecting damage is broken. anyone care to discuss?

@Juji THE ADENA INCREASE OF 16%.... if a mob drops 1k adena. an increase of 16% is only 160 adena. If you are hunting in high level places it takes 5 -6 -7 shots per nuker to kill a mob. at 82 adena x2 per shot thats 164 adenaa times x 10 shots were talking 1640 adena spent. if there are no taxes. then take into account spirit ores and everything else needed to run a party and thats if you have only two guys nuking...no one on crowd control . its a net loss no matter what. there shouldnt be a net loss for hunting anywhere in game. you should be rewarded by hunting.

agree with Lyght 100% While I appreciate the fact you got the devs to change the damage output of the mobs in DV AL GC Ketra and Silenos Im afraid the amount decrease simply doesnt change much. One needs to remember we are levels 82 and up who hunt these places. Most people are still in A grade gear which means less pdef/mdef. While the event has definitely made toons stronger with the weapon enchants its still very cost prohibitive to buy s grade armor. (unsealing costs over 2 bill). You have nerfed the damage 20% and 10 % for anth lair. While i absolutely agree anth lair should be hard, it is next to impossible. Yes there are toons leveling there. But these are the biggest whales on the servers. a damage nerf of 20% of 3000 damage is a mere 600 hp. that doesnt amount to hardly anything to be honest. its a tiny number when a mob is hitting u 3 times in 5 seconds. u might outlast the first 2 but the 3rd is gonna kill you. This doesnt make much sense to me. The slight increase in adena.....that was a joke right....its barely noticeable. and I get it you want people to purchase from the lcoin and ncoin store...i get it...but if you lose the player base you losse income....look at the turnout for this event? You have brought the masses back. Now how are you going to keep them? I suggest swift changes before this week ends. People are just going to get frustrated and disappear again.. Again I appreciate the support you have given us the last few months. But these changes literally do nothing. The changes are great. The amounts are wrong. the result is more overcrowding in forge and goe and woa. this leads to players getting fed up and quitting. I feel this event brought tons of players back and they have all kinds of good items and gear but they still cannot hunt in over half the map. This keeps prices extremely high and out of reach for your average user. Just my 2 cents from a prelude player....been around the block a bit

@Juji While I appreciate the fact you got the devs to change the damage output of the mobs in DV AL GC Ketra and Silenos Im afraid the amount decrease simply doesnt change much. One needs to remember we are levels 82 and up who hunt these places. Most people are still in A grade gear which means less pdef/mdef. While the event has definitely made toons stronger with the weapon enchants its still very cost prohibitive to buy s grade armor. (unsealing costs over 2 bill). You have nerfed the damage 20% and 10 % for anth lair. While i absolutely agree anth lair should be hard, it is next to impossible. Yes there are toons leveling there. But these are the biggest whales on the servers. a damage nerf of 20% of 3000 damage is a mere 600 hp. that doesnt amount to hardly anything to be honest. its a tiny number when a mob is hitting u 3 times in 5 seconds. u might outlast the first 2 but the 3rd is gonna kill you. This doesnt make much sense to me. The slight increase in adena.....that was a joke right....its barely noticeable. and I get it you want people to purchase from the lcoin and ncoin store...i get it...but if you lose the player base you losse income....look at the turnout for this event? You have brought the masses back. Now how are you going to keep them? I suggest swift changes before this week ends. People are just going to get frustrated and disappear again.. Again I appreciate the support you have given us the last few months. But these changes literally do nothing. The changes are great. The amounts are wrong. the result is more overcrowding in forge and goe and woa. this leads to players getting fed up and quitting. I feel this event brought tons of players back and they have all kinds of good items and gear but they still cannot hunt in over half the map. This keeps prices extremely high and out of reach for your average user. Just my 2 cents from a prelude player....been around the block a bit

Modified the level difference penalties among party members. Removed the XP penalty previously in effect when the level difference between the lowest level character and the highest level character in the party was 10-14 levels.

@Juji in the patch notes it said that the level difference in party was removed for xp. That is not the case. There is still the penalty after 14 levels.

completely agree. thiss update made the divide between the p2w player and your average wallet extremely noticeable. this isnt hardcore or casual tho. this is p2w vs the average player. Thiss game wasnt supposed to be p2w. It was suppossed to be grind to win. Many of grind way more thant the p2w guys but their wallets win in the end. For me this is one way the developers have clossed that gap slightly. Im not on board with most things ncsoft does but this i am. the vip10 thing is a freaking travesty. massive gains for the p2w elite.

grinded how? visa does not equal grind

same here it was removed from my inventory