Naa Sly, Not saying it's us. I DCd, tried to log back in, failed. Tried later and got in for a few mins on one PC but before I could log in on the other, DCd on first one again. Then my router reset on it's own like it does sometimes on Mondays for whatever reason. After that, logged in on 2 PCs successfully and seemed stable again. Went to bed. Woke up DCd, came here to see what's up. See some folks have same problem, others are in game. My logic is, maybe in my area we have a problem with ISP, and maybe others having problems are from same area. There was a wide spread problem last week on the East coast. I just look at things a little differently I guess since I don't want to look like a four year old pissed off because Mom turned off Blue's Clues. I try to see if there was a common element for folks having issues, that's all.