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DN aoe hasnt given vr in a very long time. its most likely a feature of the polearm passive which is unique to them. they also have 2 more aoe skills than any other tyr class. i don't believe this is a bug.

i am dark elf so i was unaware of the human aspect. ty for that.

Here are my thoughts on the game in its current state of content/management/promos: Game Content: There is no f2p content available in game anymore. There is literally no way for a player to begin the game, spend 100 usd every month, and be able to get gear in a manner that is required to enjoy the game normally. I don’t mean dragon wep stage 3 for everyone, but the basics. We used to have primevil isle (now called jamoa) which dropped scrolls that everyone needed, but was only farmable by low-mid level toons. This helped promote an in game economy that was outside the p2w loot boxes, and gave f2p or players who didn’t spend as much something to farm towards. This has been completely removed in the last update, now not dropping scrolls at all. We know why you did this, its to put them in loot boxes and then sell a kain version later, so everyone has to spend for basic gear required to play. We also are the ONLY region that does not have the f2p eihnassad coin store, which helps gear up low-medium players with basic items of need. We have the most watered down, feature removed version of Lineage 2 in any export region. At a minimum we should be equal to Japan or Innova on features and pricing and gear availability. There are literally no drops anymore in the game. If you want to play, you have to pay. And pay A LOT of money at that. A normal character must invest around 5,000 usd minimum to be able to sort of enjoy normal game content for their character’s level after 110-112 range. In order to compete in any PvP, add another 10,000 to 15,000 usd on top of that to just begin entry into that feature. This is a beyond broken model, and is a perfect segway into the next main point Promos: The sales/promos/events/whatever you want to call them are beyond overpriced. I am a high paying customer. Not top, but not low either. I spent about 1000 usd on the mystery box promotion because it was the 1st time we had god jewels in the loot box for months, and the box gave an xp item which I assumed meant the normal Christmas XP event we have gotten every year forever was sure to come. Long story short, all boxes opened to consumables and timed enchant scrolls, my mystery box compounding took 5-6x the statistical amount to make a lvl 11 box, I failed gk3 click, failed sayha 5 click, got a greater agathion that’s worth maybe 100b. That 1000 usd got me maybe 200-300b in sellable stuff, none of which was an upgrade for me. Just so you are on the same page as players, converting ncoin to adena means 1billion adena is about 0.50-0.80 cents depending the promos. This means 1000 usd should get me 500-800 billion adena. This doesn’t even consider the black market rmt side of things. Follow this up with no xp event, and then the dragon slayer event which is now 4x last years price because you lowered the odds, and this makes me really want to quit. I waited a year for this dragon slayer event. You had me for an easy 3 grand if it was last years event. Now it will cost me 9-12 grand to upgrade my weapon from stage 2 to stage 3. No thank you. I will find a new game. Every single promo, you are clueless on the item’s in game value vs what you put them at. I don’t think any of the current ncwest gm team even remotely understands the game and the content that is in it. That’s unacceptable. Sorry to break it to your team, but the normal video game player isn’t dropping 10-15-20 grand to play. If you get a few hundred bucks you are lucky, and if you don’t capture them after that’s spent, theyre going to quit. I understand the Korean model supports this structure. We are by and far the absolute most expensive export region. This is why your game is a dumpster fire at the moment. Management: I think this is the 3rd or 4th feedback request I have seen in the last 3-4 years. Every single time, multiple people post very constructive feedback. Every single time, it is 100% ignored by your team and korea based on the actions we see for the year following said feedback request. You ignored a massively critical forum post for over a week which was all about how you purposely are trying to gouge your playerbase on the current dragon slayer event. You purposefully tampered with rates to try and make more money, and it now blew up in your face. We all know ncsoft did this on purpose, and so many people have quit its disgusting. Pricing on all events is gouging to the extent its killing the game. Management we interface with seems to not care about the customers or our input. Closing: I am basically done with the game because of this slayer event fiasco. I will afk to the update in March to see how the dagger is changed. I guess that means you have 2-3 months to win me back over as a customer. I have multiple friends who have quit in the past week. These people drop 1000’s on events. They removed augments, traded off gear, and logged out. They’re done done. As in not coming back. You need to show us you care about retaining your customers. Not many people will start playing a 17 year old game from scratch that cost 10-20k to start. We have the most over priced and watered down version of Lineage 2. Lower your price structure. Make us more like Japan’s model on gear availability. Stop messing with good events to try and price gouge us.

the difference in speed on the animations is in the miliseconds iirc, and only applies to bloodstab. some ru test had the exact times long ago. bloodstab has a different animation for shaper vs duals. if a difference in speed exists, its for 1 skill only, and the difference is not visible to the naked human eye in a single use atmosphere. I would imagine you need the actual file data or a very large sample size to compare and reverse into this. but then, the margin of error in how we collect these tests may very well be the same size as the time difference we are trying to capture. edit: the ru data was very old mind you for now, we know bloodstab has 2 different physical animations based on shaper vs duals. its the only skill that is up for question on having a difference in speed due to this. all other stabs are identical shaper vs duals in their animation.

WR is top PVP dagger, but worst PvE dagger because it nets the lowest stab damage based on how the 2 side steps work. They port to flank of current position, and flank damage has less bonuses overall on dagger than the rear bonuses. you also can side step to front and rear etc, so it isnt always stabbing flank. Overall PVE: FS > GH > TH > WR this is based on toi income tests as a high gear dagger back at 118ish lvl. FS made more income than GH which made more than TH which made more than WR. The WR struggled for me to stay same floor and maintain same stabs required as the other 3 othel types. If i retested now, with my current gear, they probably wont be much different bc i over stab the health of toi and other places by alot now. so the lack of dmg on the WR may not be felt now. i will also note, FS is the only dagger even remotely able to aoe in a pve setting, but the gear required is a bit absurd. Overall PVP: WR > GH > TH = FS for the current state of the game, the WR defensive skill is by far the best. it also stabs very fast and doesnt require a debuff like shadow chase to be on to have dmg. The GH defensive skill is also very good and more well rounded as it works on mage dmg too. The TH target loss skill isnt as OP as it used to be and I tend to consider FS and TH about the same in PVP. The FS receives less crit dmg rate on their passive and the TH has the armor remove thing and target loss. Theyre both about the same, maybe TH has a slight advantage. fast forward to next update, GH may become top pvp dagger again with this ignore directional penalty buff it gets. For single vs duals, the only difference is in stab land rate. duals = 80% hard cap to blow land rate. shaper is 82.5% blow and rate. skill mastery is identical. hide when using clones is identical. skill animations on shaper look cooler, but u loose about 15% dmg using a shaper over duals. if all i EVER did was pvp, i would use a shaper. if you ever pve, go duals. u need dmg in pve, but dont really miss it in pvp. the stab land rate is more the issue in pvp, because the 80% cap gets lowered by defensive items. this is truly the main issue about daggers is missed stabs which doesnt really affect aoe toons.

m8, i waited a year for this event to come again purely to upgrade my weapon with dragon claws. instead of it costing 1-2 grand, you made it cost 9-10 grand this time. i'm supposed to wait another year in hopes you will rectify the event next time? sorry to break it to you, but i'll end up quitting, not waiting. good luck i guess.

@Hermes @Wissp friendly reminder that you have a 9 page thread on your absolutely dead forums for your decreasing population game that you continue to ignore. Not even a "we are passing on your feedback" post. you had me signed up for 2-3 grand that ive saved specifically for this event. you got a whopping 50 bucks of that 2-3 grand because of what you did or someone did adjusting the base rates of enchanting on this event. i could have gotten past the no luna pack, but u made a dragon claw cost 4x last years price. congrats on being so clueless that your attempt at being greedy totally fails. what kind of events can we expect this year to make up this loss in your projected 2023 revenue? you starting off easily 1mil short... i have never seen a company so dedicated to killing their own product, it makes 0 sense.

not much difference in on target damage between the 2. dagger power comes from stacking all crit dmg type items along with p skill power and patk, not higher weapon patk. for example, stage 1 daggers vs r110, the passive sa of 30% crit dmg is why people care about stage 1, not the extra patk on the weapon.

if we got old event rates, i was gonna spend to make 180 claws, probably a grand or so in cash on ncoin. i spent my 50 bucks to test the waters, and took 1/5th old claw rate. So itll be like 9 grand to do what i need when before it was 1-2 grand max. ncsoft so clueless

anyone who is happy about how expensive items are is dealing items on the side in the rmt world. no sane person would be happy about a game requiring 5-6-7 thousand usd to upgrade a single item when 1 year ago it cost 10% of that.

i have no other explanation than they want us to quit. i cannot think of any other company i deal with who literally tries to drive customers away.

Rates for transparency for ppl: +1 - +3 = 100% +4 - +15 = 60% +15+ = 30% 100 sticks = 1x +15 for me. it blew up going to 16. i used 590 scrolls. i am hearing the chests give giant scrolls at about 1/100 rate. last time we got 10 for 4800 ncoin... oh yea, and you doubled the cost of the dragon slayer, 20kk > 40kk just lol man...

@Hermes @Wissp the rates are messed up. we couldnt see rates last time, now we can. 100 sticks previously netted 4-5 +14 slayers. now it nets 1 +14. once again, you guys take a perfectly amazing, profitable event and go mess it up. no one is going to spend on this. i'm not risking 100 bucks per claw gamble, which is what this is showing. thanks for sealing the deal to quit. this was my last hope. 3-4 grand to upgrade my wep when 1 year ago people did it for 300-500 usd? yea, no ty. couple this with the abysmal last event for me and 2023 looks to be an L2 free year.

magic damage formula is being revamped in korea this year. we will see it in probably 2 updates cycles, maybe 3. no specifics exist yet

currently, i do not see any affect accuracy has on stab landrate, but i do have a +7 p accuracy balance artifact and the AP for revelation skill increase which also adds accuracy. This may change in 3 months when we get an update as it is rumored that the dagger blow formula is altered. however, currently, it does not appear to affect anything on blows or aoes or skill usage in general on any class. i would keep the accuracy artifacts for now until next update just in case theyre needed again. for barrage of nails and aoes in general, it takes ALOT of gear. the skill power of the skill is down in the 30k range, and patk crit dmg doesnt affect it in any way. When compared to a blows damage, it will be 1/10 to 1/15 of the damage a blow does. It also requires quite of skill crit rate items to make the aoe crit all the time (+5 greater cancer / stage 1 daggers + / skill crit rate balance artifact +10 / 114+ dex) to gets these skills critting 90% - 100% of the time. the lack of damage on barrage is not surprising. there are not many othels who an aoe as a main approach, and the ones who can have ridiculous gear. for barrage enchant. pve = power. if you ever pvp or do oly, chance is definitely better because its the only way you will beat a seer (the skill prevents hide and slows) and kite others toons because the aoe radius is the same on either enchant and not requiring a target is nice when you need to kite. also, for aoe's its green mobs to white max. for example, at 120 my aoes 1 shot PI top zone. Beast farm they 1-3 shot depending the buffs up. fafu I need cloak 18 + br to even make aoe viable and its still 4-5 shots. but my stabs 1 - 2 shot fafu pretty much perma. level difference matters alot. with this said, i know 120 daggers who cannot aoe like this in PI and beast, so it really depends the supporting gear on your toon to make it good.

where is the BR update that every other region has received?

this is the closest thing to what u are looking for check out the #learnatorium for a bunch of good info about the game the people who typically say this enter in with a bunch of toxic issues themselves. there is a channel for game talk that has toxicity moderated out, there is a channel for toxic talk, pick where you hang out accordingly to fit what you prefer to do.

lol, every single toon that matters who is 120+ uses destiny perma. drop runes matter, its not just xp

worst Christmas events ever lol also wtf no xp event? just sad... game is turning into set it and forget it for 7 days and play something else. no point to do crisis if we never get an xp event, cant upgrade on p2w events, its about that time to move on. these gms are clueless and actively trying to kill this game. @Hermes @Wissp have either of you even bothered to make a toon and play different lvl zones with dif sets of gear on dif classes? or bothered to calculate the cost of these promos??!!?!

what is the reason?

Joke events, joke export region, joke product, joke promos. Sad way to end this abysmal year in L2. I'm sure more people will quit in 2023.

this box enchant event is very similar to the event core took about enchanting magic lamps. however, their rewards include +18 cloaks, greater fire agath charm 100% craft and other top items. our event contains absolute trash. https://l2central.info/main/events_and_promos/1541.html @Wissp @Hermes this is the type of rewards we expect for Christmas, not the trash we got... sigh... i hope January you give us some type of proper event, you guys keep showing us you are clueless about what we need.

pretty sure dudot server is off now

it is sad and unhealthy to have an opinion on how someone spends the money they earn themselves