L2 NA classic is failing for several reasons

[Warsmith]

I am sure the devs, gms, and moderators have noticed the server populations are half after 3 months. Running average around 3-4k on TI and Giran, from a start of 6500+ often from the beginning.

They are failing for several reasons. 1. Adena for normal players as a group cannot even pay for porting or gear. This server settings are so low I know of several people that quit and went back to core/live/skelth 2. Drop rates and spoil rates of normal items and spell books etc are extremely low.  3. bots are rampant, and random non-bot people are getting banned instead. (I would beg to disagree with NC that hundreds of people since xincode was added spamming forums about wrongly banned were all or most lying.) 4. Random server lag, shot lag, crashes, login problems. They literally had years to prepare and classic servers from korea/japan/russia/eu to reference fixes. 5. General lack of care about its customers, this company has is and has been a money pit, and when theres a problem its all automated responses. Deleting peoples posts on forums to hide the dissent and complaints. Etc.

 

those are my opinions, the server numbers don't lie. when wow classic launches later this summer, mark my word these server populations will drop in half. it will be 1k real players and 1.5k bots on TI and Giran. 

[rangomal]

22 hours ago, Warsmith said:

I am sure the devs, gms, and moderators have noticed the server populations are half after 3 months. Running average around 3-4k on TI and Giran, from a start of 6500+ often from the beginning.

They are failing for several reasons. 1. Adena for normal players as a group cannot even pay for porting or gear. This server settings are so low I know of several people that quit and went back to core/live/skelth 2. Drop rates and spoil rates of normal items and spell books etc are extremely low.  3. bots are rampant, and random non-bot people are getting banned instead. (I would beg to disagree with NC that hundreds of people since xincode was added spamming forums about wrongly banned were all or most lying.) 4. Random server lag, shot lag, crashes, login problems. They literally had years to prepare and classic servers from korea/japan/russia/eu to reference fixes. 5. General lack of care about its customers, this company has is and has been a money pit, and when theres a problem its all automated responses. Deleting peoples posts on forums to hide the dissent and complaints. Etc.

 

those are my opinions, the server numbers don't lie. when wow classic launches later this summer, mark my word these server populations will drop in half. it will be 1k real players and 1.5k bots on TI and Giran. 

Have in mind Blizzard has gone full corrupt last year, you saw what happened to blizzcon, wow BFA lost a HUGE number of sucbscibers, people who were subbed for 10 years were forced to unsub due to Blizzard NOT caring anymore about the player demands.Diablo immoral crap as well.Blizzard is taking the path of hell NCsoft took long ago so i dont trust their classic as well.Its obviously a last stand for them to cash grab people's nostalgia like NCsoft did.You cant trust anyone anymore,for now i have put my trust in Square enix and their FFXIV, but you never know when a company will go desperate

[Deviliana]

In my personal opinion, it is not a coincidence that the game is the way it is. Somehow ncsoft is profiting over adena seller. 

If you are a VIP player you can level up faster but your adena income does not keep up with your faster level up. What a premium player (aka VIP) finds out after reaching level 40~50 ? No adena to buy grade C gear/weapon. What the premium player will do ? Grind for weeks, killing the same pack of mobs over and over again, to be able to afford the minimun gear to keep playing or, frustrate, buy adena !? 

I don't know for sure, but everything in this game is very suspicious: having a class perfectly designed for botting, everything in the game is tremendous expensive in comparison to the amount of farm effort necessary to buy it. Low rates is so low that, I guess, only botters can afford the time to drop the top tier SB. Also, after 15 years, mass botting is still a thing an go on like a natural aspect of the game and GM still treat it bureaucratically. No way ncsoft is not profiting over the adena sellers, otherwise, adena sellers are making more money than ncsoft.

[November]

On 1/10/2019 at 9:29 AM, Warsmith said:

I am sure the devs, gms, and moderators have noticed the server populations are half after 3 months. Running average around 3-4k on TI and Giran, from a start of 6500+ often from the beginning.

They are failing for several reasons. 1. Adena for normal players as a group cannot even pay for porting or gear. This server settings are so low I know of several people that quit and went back to core/live/skelth 2. Drop rates and spoil rates of normal items and spell books etc are extremely low.  3. bots are rampant, and random non-bot people are getting banned instead. (I would beg to disagree with NC that hundreds of people since xincode was added spamming forums about wrongly banned were all or most lying.) 4. Random server lag, shot lag, crashes, login problems. They literally had years to prepare and classic servers from korea/japan/russia/eu to reference fixes. 5. General lack of care about its customers, this company has is and has been a money pit, and when theres a problem its all automated responses. Deleting peoples posts on forums to hide the dissent and complaints. Etc.

 

those are my opinions, the server numbers don't lie. when wow classic launches later this summer, mark my word these server populations will drop in half. it will be 1k real players and 1.5k bots on TI and Giran. 

So.... Just keep in mind the general population since games have come out have taken a liking for games that are easier than harder. Look at some of the insane levels in some of the 2d games that were invented with limited retries etc. Now the overwhelming majority of games allow infinite respawns and easier content (overall). So, back to your points.

 1. Adena for normal players as a group cannot even pay for porting or gear. This server settings are so low I know of several people that quit and went back to core/live/skelth 

I have leveled a toon to 52 / 49 / 49 / 46 and helped my wife get to 48. Through this we have had to face the same challenges as other players, one of which being Adena and another being TP's. Despite multiple veterans telling players what they need to hear, not what they want to hear on how to plan and maintain your economy, this keeps coming up. No one is going to tell you how or what they do precisely on the forms so that other people can obtain a better experience. The general gist of this goes like, find out what people are buying, find the best farm spot for that, and hunt it... Sell it for profit, make sure your set up can hunt it effectively, if not... hunt something you can for less till you can hunt something of better value. You cannot expect to hit 20 without any effort and have top D, the same can be said for 40 and C, 52 and B.... etc. Sure some people are having great luck and getting drops left and right, while others dont see drops for ages, though if you plan your hunting spots, you can maintain your economy and afford to TP. With the patch of paid tp's or Anchorment day as I call it, I struggled at first too, till I planed out where and how I wanted to hunt. Though I do agree, this is one of the hardest version of Lineage I have played to my working memory xD.

2. Drop rates and spoil rates of normal items and spell books etc are extremely low.

To be fair, when I played on release ages ago... I didn't see a full drop for about 9 months, I am including ng in this.

3. bots are rampant, and random non-bot people are getting banned instead. (I would beg to disagree with NC that hundreds of people since xincode was added spamming forums about wrongly banned were all or most lying.)

This needs to be addressed immediately.

 4. Random server lag, shot lag, crashes, login problems. They literally had years to prepare and classic servers from korea/japan/russia/eu to reference fixes. 

This needs to be addressed immediately.

5. General lack of care about its customers, this company has is and has been a money pit, and when theres a problem its all automated responses. Deleting peoples posts on forums to hide the dissent and complaints. Etc.

The vast majority of posts that they have to entertain are so overwhelmingly toxic, that while I do not agree with it, I understand it. Now this does stem from an apparent lack of ability to community freely from their team with the player base.

those are my opinions, the server numbers don't lie. when wow classic launches later this summer, mark my word these server populations will drop in half. it will be 1k real players and 1.5k bots on TI and Giran. 

I do agree with the fact that numbers are declining and there doesn't seem to be a real floor yet.... despite this, durring the previous event number of logins on Gludio went up by about 30%, impossible to know for sure how many were botters though.

Edited January 11, 2019 by November

[NoCry]

Em 10/01/2019 às 12:29, Warsmith disse:

Tenho certeza que os desenvolvedores, gms e moderadores percebem quais são as oportunidades de servidores são metade depois de 3 meses. Corrida media em torno de 3-4k em TI e Giran, desde um começo de 6500 +, muitas vezes desde o início.

Eles estão falhando por várias razões. 1. Adena para o jogo normal como um grupo não pode nem pagar por portabilidade ou equipamento. These rates of the data são as low-end, many information are saíram e voltaram ao core / live / skelth 2. As taxas de drop são limitadas ao core / live / skelth etc. 3. bots são desenfreados, e pessoas não-bots aleatórias estão sendo banidas. (Eu imploro para discordar de NC que têm sido alvo de muitas vezes em todos os casos de spam em relação a todos os níveis proibidos em todos os momentos ou mais.) 4. Atraso de administrador aleatório, atraso de tiro, falhas, problemas de login.Eles literalmente são anos para preparar e servir clássicos da coreia / japão / rússia / ue para as correlações de referência. 5. A sua empresa tem tido um grande número de clientes, e há um poço de dinheiro, e quando há um problema de todas as suas respostas automatizadas. Excluindo as mensagens das pessoas nos fóruns para ocultar uma dissidência e como reclamações. Etc.

 

Essas são as minhas opiniões, os membros dos servidores não mentem. Quando o wow classic for lançado no final this summer, marque a sua versão para as habilidades de cairão pela metade. 1k por reais e 1.5k bots em TI e Giran. 

Congratulations my friend. You only spoke truths.

Edited January 11, 2019 by NoCry

[navouhodonosoras]

you can make adena really easily if you pick up the right zones. you can start your exp on ac after this you can go partisans then ant nest.. 42-44 you can abuse cruma tower.. everyone wants pob now. then you can exp cemetery and sell plated leather parts.  then unicorns for heads,, i can make like 10kk in 2 days with summoner. so adena is not a real problem. noone is going back to skelth. skelth is way better server but innova lost it. 

[Irlu]

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58 minutes ago, Deviliana said:

In my personal opinion, it is not a coincidence that the game is the way it is. Somehow ncsoft is profiting over adena seller. 

If you are a VIP player you can level up faster but your adena income does not keep up with your faster level up. What a premium player (aka VIP) finds out after reaching level 40~50 ? No adena to buy grade C gear/weapon. What the premium player will do ? Grind for weeks, killing the same pack of mobs over and over again, to be able to afford the minimun gear to keep playing or, frustrate, buy adena !? 

I don't know for sure, but everything in this game is very suspicious: having a class perfectly designed for botting, everything in the game is tremendous expensive in comparison to the amount of farm effort necessary to buy it. Low rates is so low that, I guess, only botters can afford the time to drop the top tier SB. Also, after 15 years, mass botting is still a thing an go on like a natural aspect of the game and GM still treat it bureaucratically. No way ncsoft is not profiting over the adena sellers, otherwise, adena sellers are making more money than ncsoft.

How it is posible to reach lvl 40 or even 50 and claim to not have to buy c grade gear?????

I play with a TANK (worst char ever to farm apart from supports XD)  playing very casual. I reach lvl 40 and have to buy all C grade gear from luxury wich i did beside weapon that i have an elven long swrd.. ... And i do not do to much effort. Yes i know the game i know dwarfs are a MUST if you want to play smart.... and you don´t need to own thouse char... Check the yellow stores... 
BTW i NEVER buy ss from other players...... that maybe the worst fail most do... And yes you need to multi box at least a support.....

Yes it could be nice if teleport should be cheaper or not have. But the game force you to know where to go, to explore and be on one place for a "season". Besides locations are really nice, considering how old this game is....
I think classic was never intended to be for new players.....

Regads. 

Edited January 11, 2019 by Irlu