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9 minutes ago, Euthanaisa said:

if you check the servers right now , there the highest they've been in awhile, so most of those people saying they've quit is all bs, because population servers havnt changed abit. lol..https://playl2.eu/?full

https://l2.laby.fr/status/

Gludio was 2kish + when it launched and aden was as well. Both Giran and TI had 5k as well. Population isn't the only thing that matters, because bots can fill the slots of the leavers. All you have to do is look at the NPC's Spawned. They are drastically close despite the population disparity. So... this either means a server with a much larger pop is struggling to hunt as efficiently as a server with a quarter of the pop. In theory, they should be hunting many more mobs, and they aren't. Which means that bots are responsible for the majority of the mobs that go down. Look at it however you would like, but Population isn't the only thing that look at.  Thats like buying a Car soley based on its gas mileage, not taking anything else into account. Not the airbags, not the tires, nothing.

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4 hours ago, Dhol said:

People like OP are the reason NCWest allows botting. 

Giran online during peak 5.000, Giran online at 3am ~4.000. It's so obvious...

So what everyone's a bot now because the population is the same as before? Right.. It's because of people like you that people are accused of botting when they're not. Just shut up and admit half the people complaining they quit, didn't quit. That's my point. 

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1 hour ago, Euthanaisa said:

So what everyone's a bot now because the population is the same as before? Right.. It's because of people like you that people are accused of botting when they're not. Just shut up and admit half the people complaining they quit, didn't quit. That's my point. 

No, once again look at the mobs getting spawned at the same rate with 1k / 5k players. Bots bots bots.

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1 hour ago, Euthanaisa said:

So what everyone's a bot now because the population is the same as before? Right.. It's because of people like you that people are accused of botting when they're not. Just shut up and admit half the people complaining they quit, didn't quit. That's my point. 

You are delusional if you think people are going to stay here. 60 ppl have already quit from my clan, out of ~80 that were here. Everybody is just selling out their stuff and moving on. Just look around... I'm not accusing anybody of botting, I'm just saying that there are so many bots there, that even that mass quit isn't noticeable in online numbers.

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if u even standing in town …...there's no world chat at all for long period of time...

I mean I thought I got disconnect and type dot in general chat then it works....

makes me sad...

so many people quit for sure but a lot of people still waiting and hoping 

if any change for next update

if nothing happen,

and gm keep ignore community then more people will quit for sure

 

 

 

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Maybe we just wait till Siege and see how wrong you are to say that people leaving has not affected anything. Last siege was moderately good for Gludio server, where even though no one got the Castle, people at least go crystals for clan skills. 

I bet that this time around we may not even breach the wall or even come close to the success we had last run.
 

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yeah for me 2. and if you run around the lvl spots this numbers are confirmed. at orc starting village in the lvl areas there are over 100 bots just there. cruma over 100 - 150 bots, so thats around 200+ bots just in 2 areas. if you add this up you get the numbers you told before.

sad game

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For sure there was usually this bot problem but not like this. how i said there are over 150 bots only in cruma swamp and that makes the whole thing kinda boring and waste of time. if you report them to the support team wow we will investigate....what will they investigate, the bots are faster created then banned so if they need weeks to ban 1 bot this shit is f2p and there are more bots created then banned.

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8 minutes ago, Roflcopter said:

For sure there was usually this bot problem but not like this. how i said there are over 150 bots only in cruma swamp and that makes the whole thing kinda boring and waste of time. if you report them to the support team wow we will investigate....what will they investigate, the bots are faster created then banned so if they need weeks to ban 1 bot this shit is f2p and there are more bots created then banned.

Idk, but i personally learned to just ignore them, i always find farm even with these bots on, maybe its because i played this game for so long, anyway, like i said, if u see lineage2 like a way to chill because the nostalgia of the good old days hit you than its fine, if you play it competitively, to be hero, to be super relevant in pvp and things like this, than you better quit or invest insane amounts of $$$$. I suggest you to take a more easy approach on the game, lvl up a crafter, a spoiler, buffers, go craft wome shitty C grade armors, go do some rb's, things like this, things like this made me play lineage2 again and will play until i get bored. bleep the bots, bleep the shop, bleep the ppl who pay to win, bleep everyone who tries to steal my way of chilling, i m gonna do my thing.

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21 hours ago, Euthanaisa said:

if you check the servers right now , there the highest they've been in awhile, so most of those people saying they've quit is all bs, because population servers havnt changed abit. lol..https://playl2.eu/?full

https://l2.laby.fr/status/

hahahhahaha new players are so noobs.

1 REAL player + 2 BOX + 2 BOts = 5

5 = 20% real population

4000 players = 800 REAL players

2000 players = 400 REAL players
 

###  Wake up man.

 

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1 hour ago, Fonnz said:

Idk, but i personally learned to just ignore them, i always find farm even with these bots on, maybe its because i played this game for so long, anyway, like i said, if u see lineage2 like a way to chill because the nostalgia of the good old days hit you than its fine, if you play it competitively, to be hero, to be super relevant in pvp and things like this, than you better quit or invest insane amounts of $$$$. I suggest you to take a more easy approach on the game, lvl up a crafter, a spoiler, buffers, go craft wome shitty C grade armors, go do some rb's, things like this, things like this made me play lineage2 again and will play until i get bored. bleep the bots, bleep the shop, bleep the ppl who pay to win, bleep everyone who tries to steal my way of chilling, i m gonna do my thing.

So what you are saying is its ok to be non factor? to never be able to attend Epics, Castle Sieges, or be a factor in PVP? What's left in the game? I ignored the bots since oct 23, training them and such. It's w.e. honestly.

I was doing your suggestion on Gludio, had 3 constant shops buying selling and crafting. But there's no point. Bots took the crafting Market to 0 basically and destroyed the economy by jacking the prices on everything. Sure you can go VIP and make your own AOE groups to get silver coins but this inherently isn't the old L2 way. 

Saying you are complacent with the state of things, is not the answer. The answer here is that we need an effective boycott. Though people who still login are making it very tough.

 

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23 hours ago, Euthanaisa said:

if you check the servers right now , there the highest they've been in awhile, so most of those people saying they've quit is all bs, because population servers havnt changed abit. lol..https://playl2.eu/?full

https://l2.laby.fr/status/

Man you have no idea how this game work at all. Youre the one that was thinking pendants are for 30 days only. If you think population is the same gl.

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