Main - Dual exchange service

[LordDragnil]

15 hours ago, Juji said:

We do not have a service that swaps Dual to Main. The only one that is similar to that is the Dual Class Separation service that Korea offers, but we have no current plans to add this service at this time.

 

 

It's another source of money. Of course, loot boxes much easier way..

NC West should think about players too. This is really not so hard issue.

[Teribeth]

6 hours ago, Sesh said:

I think you are wrong here teribeth...I remember main maestros awakening to feoh on main, tanks awakening to healers, DD awakening to buffers...all thanks to the stone of destiny, since it allowed you to choose any class

that's the point of it, allow people to awaken to any class any race combo, not to save those pay2lose kids who made a bad class decision

The 8 Unified Awakened Classes were disappointing to several classes... Soulhound(mele+mystic) and Soultaker(debuff+summon) both became Feoh, Fortune Seeker(mele+spoil) became Othell dagger etc. This part was the reason the Stone of Destiny was introduced... not an example of how it was used.

6 hours ago, Sesh said:

here you go Teri....may I call you Teri?

The Stone of Destiny returns to Lineage II in the L2 Store and L2 Galleria!

The Stone of Destiny allows a non-Awakened character (or non-Awakened Dual Class) to evolve into the Awakening class of their choice at level 85, instead of naturally evolving into only one destined class. For example, an Orc Titan would normally awaken as a Tyrr Warrior. With the Stone of Destiny, however, they can awaken as any of the eight Awakening classes—they could even be an Aeore Healer if they so wished!

cheerio

ANNNDD?? What part of your description is not BEFORE Awakening...(as the normal Class "related" to 1-85 class played) you still needed Quest done and go to Reliquary of the Giants... but with the Stone of Destiny you could Awaken at any statue, even as a Class not available to your Race. Now you can get some of the same combinations with Race Change service(no Race Change for Kamael/Ertheia)... Start a character based on the normal Race for that class, then Race Change into the otherwise unavailable Race/Class combination that you want.

[ReaperGG]

I honestly couldnt care less about changing my main class at this point or any future point but allow me to add this. Do u really think that blackmailing is the way to go here? not everybody ofc only those who r like ''change it or i will quit''. well go ahead and quit then. ive seen in one post ''majority of the players want this settled''. Majority? Really? Try 3-5% of the players. It is a free game. Whoever chooses to spend money on any stuff its ones own business. Only Drack really participates in the forums. where was everybody else a few months back when the jewels sale was on and the prices were insane. Actually I believe that was the threads name ''insane prices''. As ive said at that thread and will rewritte here, Dear Admins, GMs, Developers, if indeed u cannot do anything about certain issues and aspects of the current and future game and u r only applying the patches sent by Korea, then please, please, give us an email address of ur superiors/supervisors/managers who r responsible so we can make a proper complain form.

Thank you.

Edited August 1, 2019 by ReaperGG

[Sesh]

1 hour ago, Teribeth said:

 

ANNNDD?? What part of your description is not BEFORE Awakening...(as the normal Class "related" to 1-85 class played) you still needed Quest done and go to Reliquary of the Giants... but with the Stone of Destiny you could Awaken at any statue, even as a Class not available to your Race. Now you can get some of the same combinations with Race Change service(no Race Change for Kamael/Ertheia)... Start a character based on the normal Race for that class, then Race Change into the otherwise unavailable Race/Class combination that you want.

calm down, Teri.....it seems you are missing the point and just trying to argue, kinda like you did about the whole crafting thing

the point of the stone of destiny is to allow any race to be any class, not to wipe the tears from these pay2lose crybaby kids who made a bad class decision

with the stone of destiny, the kids you see crying about the update could have motivation to start their new character...they could be any race/class

the race change isn't as broad of scope as the stone of destiny was, that's why 100% players support Stone of Destiny...except maybe you, Teri.....but you want to argue about everything so im not surprised

[LordDragnil]

What a discussion is? Maestro, Dominator and both of Ertheya classes can not be able to swap for dual class. For Kamael, this issue doesn't exist in modern game design since a long time.

[Sesh]

5 hours ago, LordDragnil said:

What a discussion is? Maestro, Dominator and both of Ertheya classes can not be able to swap for dual class. For Kamael, this issue doesn't exist in modern game design since a long time.

discussion = the action or process of talking about something in order to reach a decision or to exchange ideas.

any race could be maestro, dominator or either of the 2 earthia classes with the use of Stone of Destiny

[LordDragnil]

This 

5 minutes ago, Sesh said:

discussion = the action or process of talking about something in order to reach a decision or to exchange ideas.

any race could be maestro, dominator or either of the 2 earthia classes with the use of Stone of Destiny

This is another service, but not swap. Also ertheia have only 2 options for main: eviscerator and stratomancer.

[LordDragnil]

27 minutes ago, Sesh said:

discussion = the action or process of talking about something in order to reach a decision or to exchange ideas.

any race could be maestro, dominator or either of the 2 earthia classes with the use of Stone of Destiny

Seems like you think you're smart, but you're not. You'd better learn this game mechanics instead teaching me words.

[Sesh]

50 minutes ago, LordDragnil said:

This 

This is another service, but not swap. Also ertheia have only 2 options for main: eviscerator and stratomancer.

Stone of Destiny isn't a service, its an item.

The point of Stone of Destiny item, is to give people the option of being any race/class combo....so you could be a human evis if you wanted

I personally think im kind of dumb, sitting here trying to discuss something with people who barely speak the English language

or maybe yall are the not-so-smart ones for playing on NCwest American server, and you cant speak the common universal language of english

Stone of Destiny for the win, wiping the tears off pay2lose kids faces, and giving them motivation to keep going....1 stone at a time 

[LordDragnil]

whoa, dude... I know what is Stone Of Destiny. But "switch main class" doesen't mean the same as "swap dual and main". In current game mechanic, duals like Dominator, Maestro, both kinds of ertheia simply doesen't exist.

What sentence you do not understand this time?

[Sesh]

10 minutes ago, LordDragnil said:

whoa, dude... I know what is Stone Of Destiny. But "switch main class" doesen't mean the same as "swap dual and main". In current game mechanic, duals like Dominator, Maestro, both kinds of ertheia simply doesen't exist.

What sentence you do not understand this time?

whoa, dude.....maestro and dominator cant be dual class, "learn this games mechanics" hahahahaha

apparently you didn't understand any of the thread, since papa juji told you kids you weren't getting dual to main swap service I suggested adding the stone of destiny back

so all the crybaby pay2win kids who cant swap their dual to main could at least make their main any class/race combo they wished

look bro, I cant hold your hand every time you don't understand plain English.....I suggest you take some classes, or maybe go back to your own country server

[LordDragnil]

First of all:

Do u really think that you can decide where I should waste my time and spend my money?

2nd:

We have topic started with title "apples", but you're talking about "carrots". Do you really think that they are the same because both are a "food"? I am still talking about "apples", I don't care for your "carrot". 

[Jup]

On 8/1/2019 at 1:24 AM, Juji said:

We do not have a service that swaps Dual to Main. The only one that is similar to that is the Dual Class Separation service that Korea offers, but we have no current plans to add this service at this time.

Ok, but if "we have no current plans" to continue spending $ on this game, you'll have other plans?

[LordDragnil]

46 minutes ago, Sesh said:

"learn this games mechanics" hahahahaha

Try quote without any changes. Don't be a monkey. Ok?

[Sesh]

17 minutes ago, LordDragnil said:

Try quote without any changes. Don't be a monkey. Ok?

umm bro, every1 can see it word for word a few posts up....

you have failed for 24 hours and 7 days, please consider taking a break

[LordDragnil]

5 minutes ago, Sesh said:

umm bro, every1 can see it word for word a few posts up....

so check it up!

[Quenia]

On 8/1/2019 at 2:37 AM, Argus said:

Sadly it seems you guys will not be able to switch/change your main class!  

I hope in future Korean DEV team will register that problem and let you do that.

At the end, most important is to have FUN IN THIS GAME.

 

Fun???!

This game has turn to a macro grinding hell with a casino slot machine addon!

Insane billing policy, support that resembles a illegal server and an unbending will concerning all the matters the (nowadays small) community suggests.

I waste my time even typing!

 

[Sesh]

On 8/2/2019 at 12:06 AM, Quenia said:

 

Fun???!

This game has turn to a macro grinding hell with a casino slot machine addon!

Insane billing policy, support that resembles a illegal server and an unbending will concerning all the matters the (nowadays small) community suggests.

I waste my time even typing!

 

you should be thankful its a macro grind now, instead of just a grinding hell lol

while I agree with you, its a crap game now, its better than playing on a illegal server or classic server

you didnt waste your time, I understand and feel your pain...that's why you all need to vote Sesh L2 GM/moderator/community admin/dev liason….and ill do my best to change things and make L2 great again

 

[Syndra]

On 1-8-2019 at 12:24 AM, Juji said:

We do not have a service that swaps Dual to Main. The only one that is similar to that is the Dual Class Separation service that Korea offers, but we have no current plans to add this service at this time.

@Juji

Could it be possible to make a discussion about this request with the Korean Def team?

Including myself I think there are many players who like to switch their main class.

Maybe they can add something in the future? Does NCwest think about creating such service in the future?

 

[Dawe]

On 8/2/2019 at 12:22 AM, Sesh said:

While I agree with you, its a crap game now, its better than playing on a illegal server or classic server.

 

I am not so sure that playing here is better than playing on a illegal server....

[Argus]

On 8/2/2019 at 12:06 AM, Quenia said:

Fun???! This game has turn to a macro grinding hell with a casino slot machine addon!

Insane billing policy, support that resembles a illegal server and an unbending will concerning all the matters the (nowadays small) community suggests.

I waste my time even typing!

I agree, a lot should be done in order to revive our 2 servers and get them to a decent state. The problem it seems is - no1 wants to listen to the community, the people who are passionate about the game. I am also not sure if Juji really can do the changes we ask for   macro 24/7 + slot machine + troll and toxic global chat is the last we need .. 

On 8/2/2019 at 4:06 AM, Dawe said:

I am not so sure that playing here is better than playing on a illegal server....

When classic servers were announced, everyone thought it was a huge error, everyone said - no1 will go play there .. well you can see there was a huge demand for classic game and ncsoft even had to open more servers.

Again it was said during the presentation by Juji - No P2W will be introduced "DURING THE LAUNCH OF THE NEW CLASSIC SERVERS", many people did not understand what that meant .. it meant no p2w at the start guys, later Visa fight again .. since then many fellow players left because of the l2 store again! 

Probably if we get a new server without any Store/Casino/Loot Boxes/Random Mechanics on every corner, PURE HARDCORE grind by hand - no macro looping, really bot free and 100% subscription based, it will be popular and many will play it. We all know NCsoft can do that if it is their desire.

[Hydrogen]

4 hours ago, Syndra said:

@Juji

Could it be possible to make a discussion about this request with the Korean Def team?

Including myself I think there are many players who like to switch their main class.

Maybe they can add something in the future? Does NCwest think about creating such service in the future?

 

Yes @Juji thats a good suggestion  If its possible to get in touch with Korean Dev team, it might something work. 

Some people playing the same character for over 10 years or so.. Its very difficult to reroll due to many reasons, such as non tradeable items and mostly the respect to the time they have spent in this specific character and the attachment  

The sure thing here, is that NC won't lose if that kind of service implements. In the contrary, if you put that as an NCoin service, you will have a good profit. 

Since the new ranking system is coming, is pretty much unfair for ppl that stuck in a main class that is no longer bringing fun to them (changes all these years, made some classes worthless) and you will give them the chance to reroll, by keeping the same character they love, all these years.

In my case, i have a good pve geared wynn as main class , but still this gear is getting filtered through servitor sharing and the outcome is dissapointing, considering that this gear in another class, can be 100% more effective. Jewels, PVE/PVP belts, Cloak augments (only the active buffs are ok every 10 minutes) and many more, are wasted..I don't even mention the summon stats. Even with the latest "boost" , summons are 1 shot to everything in pvp and hitting back for like 500 damage crit. So the PVP content is forbidden for Wynns and the PVE content is also difficult, because everyone would prefer any other DD, but summoner in party instances or exp. The escalation is terrible   

So in the bottom line, if its possible to get in touch with the Korean Dev team, it would be very much appreciated @Juji

Thank you

[Massacre]

@Juji  Please listen your costumers/players !!! Add Stone of destiny for sell !!! 

ill not leave my main character with 12 years of history/money/time spent to make a new class/character.... 

You must let us change our main class... (can be each 6 months... etc..) but you must !!

Now have an important point (rankings) but are based in our main class.....  u must let us change !

[golemka]

When you state that you wont waste more money on a game then you decide to suggest an idea how to waste your money. 

Where is the logic?  

[BlueBerry]

When will L2 M be out? or L3?