Sameha Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Hello NCSoft. My honest respect to the Game Masters (GMs) of this game. I had not yet come to talk about anything in the forum, but now it is impossible to avoid. I know you are trying to solve problems all the time to improve gameplay, I understand that it has been annoying to do quests in some places on the map for a while now because of the huge number of bots that make it impossible to get spots. Yeah, I really understand. But here's the problem: the solution you found ... Creating a fast logging mechanism for spenders is clever, but condemning players attracted by truly free advertising to 3 hours of waiting to log in is killing the “golden egg Chicken” to see what's inside! The dollar exchange makes the game uneven for Latin Americans, Europeans, Asians and others who play ... Latin player doesn't matter? I think this is another debate to be made ... Do you know who is buying this quick login pack? The big spenders, of course, and exactly the guys you want to keep from logging in: the bots. They are living from the game like bloodsuckers, making adenas and items and selling at a lower price than you, ending their fair trade and often disrupting who's in the mood for fun. They need to login and as they have dozens of accounts, they buy login packs to make their lives faster. I'm not complaining about anything, it's not a loser's cry. I will continue in L2, game since the C3, is my game, I defend with nails and teeth. I am logged in now, having waited for a 3-hour queue to enter, and when I drop my account I will do the same thing again. But this time you are punishing with a new unfair rule the good players who love this game and who sometimes have no money to pay monthly, weekly, daily or whatever. The idea is to create the new Gludio server? Great, it will be good, you will probably make money transferring accounts between servers, I hope for your success. But as a “truly free” player who spends very little on this game, for the least respect, I think I deserve from you, even understanding your motives, I ask: If it's impossible to get off the line, at least slow this delay! My two accounts, if I stop logging in, will make no difference to you at NCSoft ... But it will make all the difference to me, who resisted year after year to make the name of this game big. Please, for all of us real players, find a new fairer solution. Anyway, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sesh Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 sounds like maybe you need to take a break from game and go get a job maybe you will have some $ and it will be more enjoyable for you just suggestion, goodluck bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixa Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 If you can't spend $500+ on each promo, you're not going anywhere, so that's a good choice I guess. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sameha Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share Posted August 29, 2019 On 24/08/2019 at 4:48 AM, Sesh said: sounds like maybe you need to take a break from game and go get a job maybe you will have some $ and it will be more enjoyable for you just suggestion, goodluck bro On 24/08/2019 at 8:29 AM, mixa said: If you can't spend $500+ on each promo, you're not going anywhere, so that's a good choice I guess. Good luck. Sesh and Mixa ... About work, I'm fortunately employed, but it doesn't mean I should invest in the game. For me, Lineage has always been a healthy fun, to enjoy without compromise and create good friendships. But your answers - I respect them - ignore the reality of thousands of players who are not spenders because not wanting or not being able to. 500 dollars in your country may be little money, in mine - I live in Latin America - it's money that most don't make in one month's work. That's why I asked in my post if Latin Americans don't matter because the values practiced in the game are impeding to many. In any case, I hope the game continues to advance and provide the pleasure it offers to so many ... And when it becomes impossible to play without giving away I decide what to do ... But the question remains: who doesn't pay doesn't deserve consideration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xHaseo Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 On 22/8/2019 at 9:30 PM, Sameha said: Creating a fast logging mechanism for spenders is clever, but condemning players attracted by truly free advertising to 3 hours of waiting to log in is killing the “golden egg Chicken” to see what's inside! Wait, what are you talking about? Who's stuck in a 3h queue to log in? Servers are dead, you can see them going heavy 'cause we have a lots of bots. You can clearly see it when the new patches are released. When we had the kamael update, none of our 6 servers (the 2 awakening server and the 4 classics) went to even "normal" status. Why? Ofc, 'cause we have so little active players w/o 3rd programs that we were unable to hit it for about 24h, the time necessary to the owner of the program to update. Around 24h after the update, magic, all illegals are back online and servers are, once again, normal and heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kale Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 On 22/8/2019 at 4:30 PM, Sameha said: Hello NCSoft. My honest respect to the Game Masters (GMs) of this game. I had not yet come to talk about anything in the forum, but now it is impossible to avoid. I know you are trying to solve problems all the time to improve gameplay, I understand that it has been annoying to do quests in some places on the map for a while now because of the huge number of bots that make it impossible to get spots. Yeah, I really understand. But here's the problem: the solution you found ... Creating a fast logging mechanism for spenders is clever, but condemning players attracted by truly free advertising to 3 hours of waiting to log in is killing the “golden egg Chicken” to see what's inside! The dollar exchange makes the game uneven for Latin Americans, Europeans, Asians and others who play ... Latin player doesn't matter? I think this is another debate to be made ... Do you know who is buying this quick login pack? The big spenders, of course, and exactly the guys you want to keep from logging in: the bots. They are living from the game like bloodsuckers, making adenas and items and selling at a lower price than you, ending their fair trade and often disrupting who's in the mood for fun. They need to login and as they have dozens of accounts, they buy login packs to make their lives faster. I'm not complaining about anything, it's not a loser's cry. I will continue in L2, game since the C3, is my game, I defend with nails and teeth. I am logged in now, having waited for a 3-hour queue to enter, and when I drop my account I will do the same thing again. But this time you are punishing with a new unfair rule the good players who love this game and who sometimes have no money to pay monthly, weekly, daily or whatever. The idea is to create the new Gludio server? Great, it will be good, you will probably make money transferring accounts between servers, I hope for your success. But as a “truly free” player who spends very little on this game, for the least respect, I think I deserve from you, even understanding your motives, I ask: If it's impossible to get off the line, at least slow this delay! My two accounts, if I stop logging in, will make no difference to you at NCSoft ... But it will make all the difference to me, who resisted year after year to make the name of this game big. Please, for all of us real players, find a new fairer solution. Anyway, thanks. i understand you Sameha, thanks for give your opinion, i am sure NCSOFT listen to you and to much others players like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeune Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 hours ago, xHaseo said: Wait, what are you talking about? Who's stuck in a 3h queue to log in? Servers are dead, you can see them going heavy 'cause we have a lots of bots. You can clearly see it when the new patches are released. When we had the kamael update, none of our 6 servers (the 2 awakening server and the 4 classics) went to even "normal" status. Why? Ofc, 'cause we have so little active players w/o 3rd programs that we were unable to hit it for about 24h, the time necessary to the owner of the program to update. Around 24h after the update, magic, all illegals are back online and servers are, once again, normal and heavy. That's because he posted that 1 week ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xHaseo Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 8 hours ago, Jeune said: That's because he posted that 1 week ago. So what? servers are dead from a long time now...i mean, as soon as we had the Pendant in the store, the population of the server went insanely down. There's no Q to join our servers since...february? march? something around that? Even if the topic is 1 week old, we never had Qs. So i'm still wondering..what is he talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeune Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 There was a login queue last week and people were waiting to login. No matter what you think of how low populated the server is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixa Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 9 hours ago, Jeune said: There was a login queue last week and people were waiting to login. No matter what you think of how low populated the server is... That was artificially introduced by NCSoft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostintheShell Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 server queue is a real threat, game population maxing out, gaining popularity by the minute. due to no item drop on pk and no more pk scamming, tons of people are coming back. if you go to enchanted valley, every freaking xp spot is taken... literally, like the good old days... good to see so many playing and active... albeit afk macroing but they're real people... you can tell after server reboots, people logging in and fighting for spots. check out party matching system for history. check out ranking system to see just how many active players there are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeune Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 On 30/08/2019 at 11:03 AM, mixa said: That was artificially introduced by NCSoft. I know that, I'm just saying that Sameha's complaint about long time to login message was relevant to the moment the login queue was in effect and irrelevant to Haseo's comment saying that the servers are dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ojeff Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Also,...NCSoft is far from ethical company, they using gambling addiction to run this game company, set a trap to their player to suck out their money, with never ending P2W items/services, I hope this game service come to the end asap, that will be better for everyone. if you stay and playing here without spending a dime to advance your toon, then you are pro! if not, go find other game or hobby before too late! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostintheShell Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 12 hours ago, Ojeff said: Also,...NCSoft is far from ethical company, they using gambling addiction to run this game company, set a trap to their player to suck out their money, with never ending P2W items/services, I hope this game service come to the end asap, that will be better for everyone. if you stay and playing here without spending a dime to advance your toon, then you are pro! if not, go find other game or hobby before too late! lol nothing we don't know... you are right about everything. however, some of us don't want to see the game die - we want it to live forever so our investment doesn't go to waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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