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mixa    536
41 minutes ago, KeepDreamiN said:

Core has 100-120k base rate for Isle and with premium account (but their servers lacking a permanent rune like prestige rune), they average multiples of  the amount you wrote.
Anything else?

Try again. No vitality or PA = 40k.

Really, anything else?

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deniman4oo    0

i was giving 40 dollar for this game per month but they took everything whatever we have to make some adena now play your self im done ! ! ! :) stupid selfish Devs...
i wish u all bad :)

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SueLZito    17

in short: we nerfar adena that we do not want anyone to make items if it is not from the l2store, and we put a rubbish bag because we think you are idiots

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Chakalito    2

With this low XP, they want to keep people on that server for the rest of their lives. And not live any more. So the girlfriends and wives will start looking for other boyfriends and husbands, because the L2 players are too busy, for 20 years trying to reach level 110. I don't know what they smoked, but this was a good one.

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iAndouille    106
7 hours ago, mixa said:

It's not like it's impossible to farm like 100m/hr even now. This is the same for few other regions, so we just got aligned with these.

Also buy 5 passes and farm 6hrs there, easy 500-600m a day.

500-600m in 6 hour, aka 3$ ?

Go find a job and buy ncoin, easier and no waste of time.

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mixa    536
7 hours ago, iAndouille said:

500-600m in 6 hour, aka 3$ ?

Go find a job and buy ncoin, easier and no waste of time.

You see, that's why you'll never be a player, just payer.

I can probably buy you and your dog if it comes to money, so please, talk like that to someone else xD

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Djos    18
11 hours ago, iAndouille said:

500-600m in 6 hour, aka 3$ ?

Go find a job and buy ncoin, easier and no waste of time.

And here we go again...when playing the game becomes a waste of time ūü§£

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Argus    217

Adena nerf even with prestige pack, pretty low .. zone empty, atm not viable to stay there.

Even worse, Fafurion and DV staying empty since day 1 we got revamped zones. Many players, me included - played/farmed day and night, went all timed zones, worked on their chars, worked to help party members, stayed in SOLO zones with 3-4-5 ppl so all can get required levels …  Not many CPs reached the goal of having all members strong enough to farm all zones with rly decent kill speed and enjoy the PARTY PLAY AGAIN … now you have made MOBS in Fafurion and DV pretty much 8-10 times tougher to kill .. 

so much is broken, update, mobs. itemization, consumables, prices, promos can you stop for a moment and take a good look at what is going on, truly you have no idea for the real situation... 

A huge part of this game is broken, now a huge part of the game became unplayable and broken at the same time, extremely frustrating! 

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D3vilBuffer    18

I find it funny people are now QQing "Well since IOS is nerfed than N Coin has to be 1:1 instead of 1:2"  Umm what exactly are you smoking that because 1 area is nerfed all the sudden EVERYTHING sold in L2 Store is now worth 1/2 as much?  

As for the IOS who said you HAVE to buy cocktails?  Bring a OOP Buffer?  Bring a Dominator?  Go in a group and have a buffer?  Just because you can't make 20b a day solo like before doesn't mean its horrible now and the game is ruined.  Other ways to make money that isn't just for the top 1% like area's have been.

Its so exhausting listening to everyone CRY all day how N Coin is now worthless because IOS got nerfed.  My god I you all need a freaking MIDOL.

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Alchohealer    16

When you fix the game call me xD i wont play this crap any longer prices went to god ncoins are half  price now queue still exist xp is nerfed way to much i think 2-3years ago was easier to get 105 xD 

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b0uff0s    74
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isn't the handling of this update by NCsoft he best promotion for the EU/RU server? 

I've read a bunch of nonsense in this thread.To the people bothered about the free game and EU/RU not being really free, i have to ask, where exactly can a free player go in this game? get 106 at mines maybe? maybe 107 at tanor and storm. Then what? your problem is the adena don;t drop w/o vitality at EU? Have any of the people arguing for the free players actually try to clean content with exalted gear?  there is practically 0  way for a "free" player to get even the minimum gear required to do anything. Consider what you actualy pay here in real money to get adenas to be able to get out of town and see how far that ammount gets you in EU/RU. So i suggest you all put that "free to play" to rest. The game is not free to play, it's free to demo. In order to play we all HAVE to pay as some point different amounts depending what you wanna do, so a person who payed 1000$ can compete with some who played 50.000$ and get his ass handed to him. 

The way i see this we are all paying customers of different tiers, we are getting a service we pay for and frankly it's way bellow acceptable.Lets say you have neighborhood restaurant which you were a customer for years and you loved  it, and had friends in there, and the nostalgia hit you every time you pass by, but they keep screwing your food for the past years, over and over, in any way imaginable and unimaginable, make the tables smaller, the chairs uncomfortable, the food portions smaller, the drinks hot, the sodas flat, the bills more expensive, the waiters unresponsive,  and they would not stop even though you tell them repeatedly what you want and how you want it. Would you keep going to that restaurant? in hopes that some day they get it right? coz i see a restaurant in the EU/RU region that at least from the window seems to get their orders right, give customers what they want on time. interact with the community. Maybe they are a bit different coz they want you to pay up front, but you already would pay in the old restaurant anyway, plus the new restaurant is cheaper all around. Would you stay? coz ppl.... the EU/RU restaurant seems mighty tempting by the day.

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Mystikal    93
5 hours ago, D3vilBuffer said:

I find it funny people are now QQing "Well since IOS is nerfed than N Coin has to be 1:1 instead of 1:2"  Umm what exactly are you smoking that because 1 area is nerfed all the sudden EVERYTHING sold in L2 Store is now worth 1/2 as much?  

What are YOU smoking? Hope it's in a state where it's legal. :D I re-read those posts and no is complaining about the conversion rate of Ncoin. When someone mentions "opportunity costs" they are referring precisely to other things that they could buy/do with their Ncoins and resources that would earn more money. I think you totally missed their points. 

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xElement    1
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@Hime @Juji


I started playing in Official like 4 years ago, i left the game because back then after reached 105 lvl with middle gear +12 weapon etc i couldn't even farm my buffer/main char spirit ores / soulshots and the servers had no people online we was like 800-1000 players almost family.


Now you made this fix and from 350m/ hour im at 180m/hour
you did a "fix" after  7 Months  (maybe more), that downgrades farm of adena at -65%, in the only zone that was possible to make your own adena.

Do the math you can go in 6 hour and after first hour every time increase stone has 140m!!

Whats the point to go back 4 years, in a position that we cant even get buffer spirit ores for once more time ? (only spirit ores and dye powders costs like 350m / day +-) and im buying my bss from the store .

Clearly adena rates in Stronghold is not a bug as Core and the Russian servers has the same rates as before the "fix".

Change it back please, is a huge disappointment to everyone including me.

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background color was black copy paste from ticket

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mixa    536
19 hours ago, D3vilBuffer said:

I find it funny people are now QQing "Well since IOS is nerfed than N Coin has to be 1:1 instead of 1:2"  Umm what exactly are you smoking that because 1 area is nerfed all the sudden EVERYTHING sold in L2 Store is now worth 1/2 as much?  

As for the IOS who said you HAVE to buy cocktails?  Bring a OOP Buffer?  Bring a Dominator?  Go in a group and have a buffer?  Just because you can't make 20b a day solo like before doesn't mean its horrible now and the game is ruined.  Other ways to make money that isn't just for the top 1% like area's have been.

Its so exhausting listening to everyone CRY all day how N Coin is now worthless because IOS got nerfed.  My god I you all need a freaking MIDOL.

I said the market will adjust, some ppl weren't believing it, now please, take a GOOD note.

Selling Ncoin/items from NCoin is the lowest you can go.You`re better off not playing at all imo, since you're not really playing the game and this IS A GAME.If you are having fun by exchanging $$$ to Adena, oh well, try a casino or something, it does bring more fun and eventually profit.

In my humble opinion, NCoin price shoudn't be more than 1:500k or so.

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Tora    15
35 minutes ago, mixa said:

I said the market will adjust, some ppl weren't believing it, now please, take a GOOD note.

Selling Ncoin/items from NCoin is the lowest you can go.You`re better off not playing at all imo, since you're not really playing the game and this IS A GAME.If you are having fun by exchanging $$$ to Adena, oh well, try a casino or something, it does bring more fun and eventually profit.

In my humble opinion, NCoin price shoudn't be more than 1:500k or so.

Fortunately, it's just your opinion, if it were really like this, the world of L2 would be like the real world, where those ultra-rich few squeeze the many poor more and more.

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Pr1nce77    13
Posted (edited)

A few suggestions. 

1st Fix the server time in Naia all the events are too late or too early for the European players that this server suppose to serve. 

2nd Fix the adena rate at ios. You have put expensive items like god jewls that every click cost at least 80b (With your rates that all we know how it goes) how it suppose people whould get that adena ? Only from your extreme expensive events ? Even the people who used to spend a lot in every event getting tired of this method. 

3rd At this update you put extra strong Mobs even the well stacked toons barely can farm. You put the Japanise version in which its full of st2 and st3 dragon weapon and god jewls st5 and st6 , What we suppose to do in this game players that have +12 weapons and basic items ? Do you have realize that you are destroying totally the game ?  

I hope to consider all that, otherwise it is available other region servers which are more honest and cheaper. 

 @Hime @Juji  

 

 

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mixa    536
2 hours ago, Tora said:

Fortunately, it's just your opinion, if it were really like this, the world of L2 would be like the real world, where those ultra-rich few squeeze the many poor more and more.

And now they don't? xD 

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Tora    15
30 minutes ago, mixa said:

And now they don't? xD 

Sure but atleast now they have to pay 5 times what u said.;)

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mixa    536
1 hour ago, Tora said:

Sure but atleast now they have to pay 5 times what u said.;)

Those hardly care, let alone paying 5 times :)

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LordDragnil    75
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looking at this thread I'm thinking about why I still here.. Many servers and many games where devs respect own community and working on players feedback. I'm just waiting for new burning event. Just interesting what they will put there to get new incomes.

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Alaesia    22

Congrats once again @Hime @Juji  You bring back the opurtunity to collect more cursed weapons, while didn't repair actuall problem which is still here, instead of that You prefer to destroy gameplay by killing ingame farm. Cursed weapon is broken, cos still when You trade it to other player skills reset, and You can all the time close some1 to cage. Is it relly how this weapon have to work? Today was first time when I saw healer with bow, just to close some1 into cage, and right after transfer weapon to other person to close other. GG. Keep it going like that. We are getting really close.

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Aaliyah    4
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l2 has always been like that. Those with highest level and gear get benefited mostly after every update.

It's their stupid way of fixing the economy. Frankly I was expecting adena drop rate at IOS to be nerfed more.

They will never understand that the economy doesn't need nerf fixes. They always lead smaller server population.

Those people who farmed IOS extensively (because they could) will get greater jewels lvl 3/4 easily in few months with the event that has increased success combine rate for brooch jewels. Because people trade $ for some adena believing the trade is beneficial.

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Edbougleux    0

@Juji @Hime u really need to check mobs in Dragon Valey and Fafurion ( im not talking about the spawn and quantity, but in dificult to kill them) , because now we have a planty of 113 + players killing in solo areas like FOS and FOW, once is impossible to kill mobs in a group areas. A lot of good players with good itens and have no another place to make party exp.

And IOS, more nerfed area in all server i have seen these days.

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MalumInSe    49
10 hours ago, mixa said:

Selling Ncoin/items from NCoin is the lowest you can go.

You're right. But players don't make the rules.... NCSoft does. What does it tell you that they allow "RMT - lite" to occur in the first place, while at the same time immediately nerfing adena drops like IOS, which would have made players more independent of the NCoin to Adena conversion practice?

Have them cut off the spigot and make all player to player exchange of promotion and L2 store items impossible. Then see what happens. Then see who really cries. Hint: it won't be just the gamers that play with their wallets. The system is definitely broken, but everyone has benefitted from it, whether they want to admit it or not; whether they are smart enough to see it or not.

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electrica    0

hey wat up with mages?

now is impossible lv up solo im on bs and intent kill mobs i need more of 15 hit for kill it, if it continue u go kill this or put more bss on quest because it imposible use it now

 

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