pegaso Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 The problem is that too much things will be pointless after that. Having a clan hall to buy talisman crystal will be pointless, the 2 hard groups of toi will be useless cuz energy of insolense will not worth anything. Cristals D where used to make elemental stones, then will be no use for cry D. Baium soul was an expensive items, now will be worthless. You will be giving an item that was valued in 2 2,5b ingame just for free, just for 80+ players, almost 2k chars will have a free permanent item that worth like an antharas lvl 2. This has no logic, breaking the market for no reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tssilva Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 16 hours ago, Juji said: It is a Talisman of Baium in the package, but the talisman is NOT tradable. You also get 2 Talisman of Baium enchant scrolls with the package, but enchants can fail at +1. The enchant scrolls are NOT tradable either, but can be used on the Tradable version of the Talisman of Baium. Stats for Enchanted Talisman of Baium: Note: +2 is the most you can enchant up to for now since scrolls are not tradable and there are no additional ways to acquire them outside the 1 per account package. Enchant Level Enchant Effect 1 P. Atk. +16, M. Atk. +23, CON/MEN +1, Cooldown -1% 2 P. Atk. +50, M. Atk. +57, DEX/WIT/CON/MEN +1, Skill Power +1%, Cooldown -2% 3 P. Atk. +92, M. Atk. +99, STR/INT/DEX/WIT/CON/MEN +1, Skill Power +1%, P./M. Critical Rate +10, Cooldown -3% 4 P. Atk. +142, M. Atk. +149, STR/INT/DEX/WIT/CON/MEN +1, Damage Magic Resistance +2%, Skill Power +2%, P./M. Critical Rate +20, Cooldown -4% 5 P. Atk. +201, M. Atk. +208, STR/INT/DEX/WIT/CON/MEN +1, Damage Magic Resistance +5%, Skill Power +3%, P./M. Critical Rate +30, Cooldown -7% That will be the same like "Starter Packge (Lv. 1 - 39)"? like, you can buy that on char 40+, but cannot use... so, "Talisman of Baium Enchant Package Event" can be purchased for char 80- (like a char level 60 for exemple) but not being able to be used until you reach the required (80) level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVerlordRs Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I see it as something welcome for the server. I have been on the server since the start (October 2018). At that time, raising a character to level 70-75 took 6 months. Now you can do that in less than a month. Was that unfair to you at the beginning? NCSOFT cannot favor all players, but it can favor MOST players. This is part of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyG Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, OVerlordRs said: I see it as something welcome for the server. I have been on the server since the start (October 2018). At that time, raising a character to level 70-75 took 6 months. Now you can do that in less than a month. Was that unfair to you at the beginning? NCSOFT cannot favor all players, but it can favor MOST players. This is part of the game. Exactly. You want to be first to have have certain things, you pay alot. You dont care to be first and are willing to wait a bit, you get it cheaper. Has always been like that and totally makes sence. We dont need 5 chars on a server owning everything. You need a "balanced" (lol) server to have fun fights. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegaso Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, ladyG said: Exactly. You want to be first to have have certain things, you pay alot. You dont care to be first and are willing to wait a bit, you get it cheaper. Has always been like that and totally makes sence. We dont need 5 chars on a server owning everything. You need a "balanced" (lol) server to have fun fights. But this was not an event item, it is an item grinded and need a lot of items that will become useless. Items that are in game not by purchase. then u can have free cloths pieces if you are lvl 80... its like that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daraiders Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 1 hour ago, pegaso said: But this was not an event item, it is an item grinded and need a lot of items that will become useless. Items that are in game not by purchase. then u can have free cloths pieces if you are lvl 80... its like that grinded how? visa does not equal grind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegaso Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, daraiders said: grinded how? visa does not equal grind No one of the items needed to make the talisman where by purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipito98 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Ridiculous, or give it to all or give to no one. Powerfull people getting more power, and fu.... the middle players. Like always Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daraiders Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 6 hours ago, Ank said: i understand the frustration for the ppl who have this item (top players) but im happy because a casual player like me would have this powerful item, ty NCOSFT. is a big punch to p2w players completely agree. thiss update made the divide between the p2w player and your average wallet extremely noticeable. this isnt hardcore or casual tho. this is p2w vs the average player. Thiss game wasnt supposed to be p2w. It was suppossed to be grind to win. Many of grind way more thant the p2w guys but their wallets win in the end. For me this is one way the developers have clossed that gap slightly. Im not on board with most things ncsoft does but this i am. the vip10 thing is a freaking travesty. massive gains for the p2w elite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeFaTaL Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) that talismans will be shareable into the account also??? @Juji ty also for that nice move by nc soft!! Edited April 27, 2020 by CeFaTaL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandoras Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Stop complaining. It will not hurt the economy, nor it will be unfair. Consider this as a kind of reward to players that have been here since the beggining of Classic. And no, I'm not talking about the ones that spend tons of NC Coins. Besides it's a promotion and eventually will come back later in game as most are. Relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmyna Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 6 hours ago, Pandoras said: Stop complaining. It will not hurt the economy, nor it will be unfair. Consider this as a kind of reward to players that have been here since the beggining of Classic. And no, I'm not talking about the ones that spend tons of NC Coins. Besides it's a promotion and eventually will come back later in game as most are. Relax. It is unfair. a lot of players didn't had the chance to lvl up to 80 because there were a lot of people who was pking on high zones and it's not that easy to level up. I start playing since server start and doesn't think this is a reward for that kind of players, if this were the case they should have picked the creation date from the character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegaso Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 There is a lot of non botter people that are stuck in lvl 78/79, the get trolled by the game literaly. And the others that have the item same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tool_of_Society Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, Pandoras said: Stop complaining. It will not hurt the economy, nor it will be unfair. Consider this as a kind of reward to players that have been here since the beggining of Classic. And no, I'm not talking about the ones that spend tons of NC Coins. Besides it's a promotion and eventually will come back later in game as most are. Relax. I've been here since day one of classic. Hell I've been here since closed beta for the original classic. I'm not 80 right now because of the botted up PKers and having lost quite a lot of XP trying level 80 content. So I'm going to miss out on this mostly thanks to the incompetent game balance that allowed EMs to run free PKing while mounted with the ability to teleport away anytime they were remotely threatened. Game "balance" that was so set on forcing people to throw thousands of real dollars at RNG that it made level 80 content hit stupid hard in A grade while not providing nearly enough in drops to pay for shot usage. Since I refuse to bot that means I've been at a disadvantage this whole time as a result... EDIT : Yeah I'm pretty bitter at this move as it's not likely I'll be 80 in time to benefit. I'm already mad braw about the last major "update" that ruined the UI and screwed up the game in general (which resulted in the last of my game friends quitting). These recent changes have tempted me back but I'm still just butthurt enough to be on the verge of quitting for good. Edited April 28, 2020 by Tool_of_Society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L2 Team Juji Posted April 29, 2020 L2 Team Share Posted April 29, 2020 The Talisman of Baium (Imprint) will be permanent once you claim it and will NOT be deleted at the end of the event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tool_of_Society Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 On 4/28/2020 at 7:54 PM, Juji said: The Talisman of Baium (Imprint) will be permanent once you claim it and will NOT be deleted at the end of the event. Great another advantage granted to the botters and RMTers. Botting up PK ponies to keep others from leveling up is really paying off for them. I've spent the last half a year leveling in an area that was green light purple to me (using the old color system that was actually useful and not the current useless system which shows white when the mobs are blue or red). I leveled there because I couldn't afford shots on two dps let alone A grade gear. When I did try to do stuff appropriate for my level range I was either ganked by a pony or I died to the mobs as the macro/autohunt system cannot account for damage spikes etc that a bare bones bot would easily handle. Either way heading to proper areas for my level was a great way to lose days of work. So I started a second group dedicated to farming adena so I could try to get some A grade and other upgrades in the hopes that would allow me to farm appropriate mobs for my level. Even my main accounts have a secondary farm group for those times where I wanted to rage quit the game due to the terrible balance on my mains. My "nerd rage" stems from the realization I would of been better off just blowing the money on shots instead of A-grade armor for the tank and 3 main dps. Then I wouldn't be 30-50% short of the requirement for this huge performance improving talisman. One of those talismans is more of an improvement than the A gear for sure. Being so close to such a massive upgrade and knowing I'll never get it is "nerd rage" inducing. Combined with the anger over the terrible choices made in game design and balancing it's making it real hard for me to not just delete L2 completely and move on to a game that isn't so .... I completely understand why you don't want to hand this out to everyone hence the level requirement. I just wanted to to give feedback on how this effects one long time player. How much it sucks to be almost there after grinding from day one of the server's creation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegaso Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 u could just put it free for all, and only equipable in 80+. This is realy unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmyna Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 I think you should make it available for all and put level restriction of 78+ or 80+ hope you think about it @Juji @DeV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegaso Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 enchant may fail to +1 or from +1 to +2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImissL2 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 6:07 PM, Juji said: This was something the Dev requested if we were to use this item at such a low price for L2 Coin. It will be available for 4 weeks though. "LOW PRICE"?! lol Please tell the DEV's they suck at their jobs, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevermind Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 48 minutes ago, ImissL2 said: "LOW PRICE"?! lol Please tell the DEV's they suck at their jobs, btw. 16 L2Coins ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImissL2 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 56 minutes ago, Nevermind said: 16 L2Coins ? Yes, cheap in L2 coins. But you have to be level 80. Do you think level 80 comes cheap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevermind Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 12 hours ago, ImissL2 said: Yes, cheap in L2 coins. But you have to be level 80. Do you think level 80 comes cheap? You had a lot of time to get there. Or you want get all top items on lvl 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImissL2 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Nevermind said: You had a lot of time to get there. Or you want get all top items on lvl 1? I have gotten there, on multiple toons. I'm concerned about the new players, the item should remain in store until they reach 80 and are able to claim it. This should not be a temp item that just makes strong players even stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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