oscar2132 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 it should be as simple as that dear NCwest ! this is a clear exploit ! you don't wanna pvp ? of my! no worries, but then no siege either, right ? in a place designed for clan vs clan combat, like territory siege, clans who don't wanna pvp should not be able to take a castle! there is a price for everything? will this time the price be paid ? the community deserve and answear, NCwest ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magistralis Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Agreed. Clan who don't wanna fight don't deserve to go to Siege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniHero Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 I agree with this. A clan that doesn’t want to pvp shouldn’t be attending siege or other pvp aspects of the game. If they PK, their clan should be opened for war immediately. If they flag on others, declaration of war should be allowed. This exploit has been abused for too long and overlooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voo Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 there once was a day when all castles were owned by pve clans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooky Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Servers always been 1 to max 2 sided. In the past there been days server went one sided because most just bandwaggon to the top clan. Then this top clan was running from castle to castle, killing all ppl and crested the castles with their alt clans. This is abuse/griefing. If a clan holds a Castle the max they should be allowed to is going to siege field to help their ally clan's casting/defending a castle. But what happens is following: Clan A dominates the server, gets Aden, moves to other siege fields, declare on clans that are not able to win them, wipes the whole siege field, crests with alt clan. They even declare WAR, so you can't kill them on the siege field unless to start a war. So if now clan B fights with clan C over a Castle and Clan A is doing said mechanic, nothing left besides letting them go. Heck i know days when 1 Clan ownded all castles using alt clans. Doesn't seem to be the intention of multiple castles or? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degus Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 What do war and castle siege have anything to do with each other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingNothing Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 you all claiming clans with no war shouldn't go to siege. BRO do u realize siege field is PVP ZONE? why the F. would u need war if its already a pvp zone? Stop this freaking nonsense, swallow the tears and move on, got damn it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingNothing Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) Agreed. Clan who don't wanna fight don't deserve to go to Siege. Agreed and the opposite should be truth. Clans who wanna fights others clans shouldn't be able to pve. I'm just using your own logic. Edited June 25, 2020 by KingNothing wrong quote :P 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degus Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Really sounds now like they crying about 1 particular clan, suck it up, they beat you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L2quote Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 This post is ridiculous. Clan sieges and war are 2 different things. If a clan goes to siege its because they want pvp. War on the other hand will usually just be about killing afk farmers who wants to level up. You dont see war pvp anymore in this game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degus Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Deaths on siege field should NOT count towards war kills, that's my only real issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helvie Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Not sure why you open a few topics about same thing, but like I stated in that other thread, you own a castle and benefit from it for 2 weeks, if you want that top reward you need to be willing to engage in wars. I think this game mechanic is OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscar2132 Posted June 25, 2020 Author Share Posted June 25, 2020 to make the fight fair, because there are only 9 castles and many clans with active ppl that needs one , the clans that choose to not pvp should not be allowed to own a castle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degus Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, oscar2132 said: to make the fight fair, because there are only 9 castles and many clans with active ppl that needs one , the clans that choose to not pvp should not be allowed to own a castle I went to siege, I pvp, so I should be entitled a castle if I can take it then right? Why do i have to get stuck w/ wars I don't want for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degus Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Helvie said: Not sure why you open a few topics about same thing, but like I stated in that other thread, you own a castle and benefit from it for 2 weeks, if you want that top reward you need to be willing to engage in wars. I think this game mechanic is OK. I see that, this was a joke towards the topic calling 14 people clans an exploit. Actually, this isn't even that post, nm, same dumb arguments. Edited June 25, 2020 by Degus wrong post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxes Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 this is liberties restricting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degus Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 15 hours ago, oscar2132 said: it should be as simple as that dear NCwest ! this is a clear exploit ! you don't wanna pvp ? of my! no worries, but then no siege either, right ? in a place designed for clan vs clan combat, like territory siege, clans who don't wanna pvp should not be able to take a castle! there is a price for everything? will this time the price be paid ? the community deserve and answear, NCwest ! You are making up all your own rules here man. What about clans that run on field for fame, if thats still a thing, ban them too? If I run to a castle and no 1 there, I can't cast cuz I didn't pvp for it? Stupid arguments everywhere! If these "real" clans really wanted more pvp they would dark the castle and open up more for the next 2 weeks, but you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trixas Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 37 minutes ago, Degus said: You are making up all your own rules here man. What about clans that run on field for fame, if thats still a thing, ban them too? If I run to a castle and no 1 there, I can't cast cuz I didn't pvp for it? Stupid arguments everywhere! If these "real" clans really wanted more pvp they would dark the castle and open up more for the next 2 weeks, but you don't. Big clans after the afk macro era became all light castles and the ones that are still dark are some alt clan of some bigger clan with only the caster to be found logged during siege Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nawdur Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 siege is nothing about clan wars, for that exist the pvp zone... a lot of clans like to force start the clan war cos there a bug where count the kills if the clan own a castle and go to other castle siege zone... that sound more an exploit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscar2132 Posted June 26, 2020 Author Share Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) the game has both pvp and pve content, and wars are old as the world, i wanna be able to declare war to a clan that has less than 14 members and they pk me or my friends, or for any other reason, and i can't. isn't this harassment? isn't this cheating? NCwest should update the rules to the actual situation ! and if it is to stay like this, if NCwest choose to take no action in this matter, it has to be set a price at least, for dodging the wars, and that should be no territory for this type of clans, not even fortress or war clan halls, and they should say thanks a trillion times for a town clan hall. Edited June 26, 2020 by oscar2132 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumb Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 I was at the first siege, there was no war. Somebody had a comp bow and crystal staff was epic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L2Junkie Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 59 minutes ago, oscar2132 said: the game has both pvp and pve content, and wars are old as the world, i wanna be able to declare war to a clan that has less than 14 members and they pk me or my friends, or for any other reason, and i can't. but, to try and kill you they have to flag... or if the succeed in killing you then they are red, kill them back! pk them! there are still pk scrolls and sin eater quests. get revenge, there are game mechanics in place for you to defend yourself. no way with the new pk system can you convenience me someone is pking or pvping you off them map none stop (still legal to do in NCsofts eyes) you know what NCsoft would tell you to do? BSOE or hunt in bigger numbers lol that is what some carebear post as the GM response when someone pked him over and over before the pk system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscar2132 Posted June 26, 2020 Author Share Posted June 26, 2020 to have the right to set foot on a pvp zone a clan must be able to receive a war declaration, the honorable way otherwise the sole purpose of pvp fight it's a lie, not a fair fight, and a scheme to gain advantages in situation like territory siege and/or cursed swords clans who want the dodge a clan war by all means should not engage in any pvp fight ! or why pvp only when convenient? a war it is a war and should be carried out on full time scale at full capacity until one side surrender ! u wanna dodge war ? stay aside, you no need pvp, u no need a territory u no need bloodstained weps update the rules, make Lineage iI the game we deserve, the game we sacrificed years for ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad1991 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 let me open your eyes getting castle and recruit pve is totally USELESS most of them are light castles and chicken run for pvp only pve then dont take castle if its just for pve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad1991 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 13 hours ago, Degus said: You are making up all your own rules here man. What about clans that run on field for fame, if thats still a thing, ban them too? If I run to a castle and no 1 there, I can't cast cuz I didn't pvp for it? Stupid arguments everywhere! If these "real" clans really wanted more pvp they would dark the castle and open up more for the next 2 weeks, but you don't. there is no fame anymore you bit late to woke up ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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