iAndouille Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Dear @Juji @Hime We wan't to come up to you'r attention about a big problem the servers are facing right now Due to the recent changes with PK systems, Peoples can't fight anymore to get into Dragons By exemple in Chronos 7/03/20 Clans were gathering up to go fight Dragons, and what happened was a complete mess, Neutrals came with annother Command channel and the "clicking war" Started. Whoever enter first win, This is not how it is intended to be played Neutrals now don't pvp and they just hope to farm everything, and the peoples who gather people to fight for dragons lost it because they didnt clicked first to enter Valakas. With the new PK system we can't just PK everyone to enter into dragons. This is now a major issue that has to be fixed on live servers. Baium Orfen Lilith Anakim are PVP zone, you have to fight for those raids, And Dragons is yet not a pvp zone and we can't do anything to fight Clans who put effort to gather people to play the game correctly are getting punished. Can we have GM thoughts on that topic please. Make Dragon a PVP zone! or Enable multiple CC to enter into dragons. The biggest pve event in server now is completely broken ! we need a fix 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSmiles Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Ando, It sounds like you're mad about losing a dragon and your precious shiny adena... You really should have clicked faster. GF. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekid_guetta Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, iAndouille said: Dear @Juji @Hime We wan't to come up to you'r attention about a big problem the servers are facing right now Due to the recent changes with PK systems, Peoples can't fight anymore to get into Dragons By exemple in Chronos 7/03/20 Clans were gathering up to go fight Dragons, and what happened was a complete mess, Neutrals came with annother Command channel and the "clicking war" Started. Whoever enter first win, This is not how it is intended to be played Neutrals now don't pvp and they just hope to farm everything, and the peoples who gather people to fight for dragons lost it because they didnt clicked first to enter Valakas. With the new PK system we can't just PK everyone to enter into dragons. This is now a major issue that has to be fixed on live servers. Baium Orfen Lilith Anakim are PVP zone, you have to fight for those raids, And Dragons is yet not a pvp zone and we can't do anything to fight Clans who put effort to gather people to play the game correctly are getting punished. Can we have GM thoughts on that topic please. Make Dragon a PVP zone! or Enable multiple CC to enter into dragons. The biggest pve event in server now is completely broken ! we need a fix Totally correct, this shouldn't be a game of "who clicks first", which goes against all Lineage 2 means. It is a PVP game, PK system is alright now but not if that means not being able of PVPing on Dragons zone, please GM listen to this which represents all of Chronos thoughts at this moment. @Hime @Juji Thank you for your time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TronEvo Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 I agree with this topic it really should be the strongest clan deserve those epic bosses cause that means any clan with over number of people can enter just by clicking on it faster. There is no fun to that. Please consider change to this @Hime @Juji. As other bosses which mentioned those zones are altered it should be for Farfurion and Valakas too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bixby Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Its a game, your a player in that game. "Clans who put effort to gather people to play the game correctly are getting punished. " I see two things wrong here. First you assume your doing it correctly, and second you claim your getting punished. This is a game free to play, anyone can join and play. Let some people catch up, ohh high and mighty one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P1xz Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 This zone should be battle zone long time ago. @Juji @Hime please consider a change. Strongest clan on the server should get these bosses. Please let our opinion to be heard, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonein60Seconds Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 i for one am not against this idea, or even the old school dragon ports, -everyone- ports in and CC who does more damage wins you know people will flag so there would be pvp while killing the dragon. either or, don't matter more pvp would be nice. just not a fan of macro killing, planned and organized pvp is my favorite to be honest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscar2132 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 love this topic, u start comin'to sense, so, the old problem of 14ppl clan exploit come up again, if there would be a war, wouldn't that be fixin the prob ? coz otherwise the way u go Ando is in the end u gone ask for pvp zone in town also no, just make wars possible, and problems solve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleira Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) We posted this topic years ago, when ms was starting to win dragons via click war. We had lots of support then as well, but no action. It's hilarious that of all people pushing for it now, the guy who doesn't even pvp is the one posting it. Ando i'm glad you're finally posting something that isn't completely trash, but you're also beyond transparent man. The only reason you care about this at all is you see a chance for opportunity, and your greed is kicking into over drive. While we're at it, lets turn Giran into a pvp zone. PvP for the most over priced shops. There is something Ando would actually be good at. Edited July 3, 2020 by Aleira 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAndouille Posted July 3, 2020 Author Share Posted July 3, 2020 Please stay on Topic and avoid Personal Accusation and Name shaming. Every other opinion is welcome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleira Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 I am perfectly on topic, and even agree with your post on this particular subject. Just making sure people see your motives for posting this now, when you didn't give a damn about it before. This post combined with the recent shouts in game have made your motives are clear as day. Greed destroys clans faster than anything so I hope the other 99% of your clan aren't being driven by the same lines of thought that you are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscar2132 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Aleira said: I am perfectly on topic, and even agree with your post on this particular subject. Just making sure people see your motives for posting this now, when you didn't give a damn about it before. This post combined with the recent shouts in game have made your motives are clear as day. Greed destroys clans faster than anything so I hope the other 99% of your clan aren't being driven by the same lines of thought that you are. who are u to judge? i say 14 ppl clans are greed, not letting bigger clans to help their mates to gear up Edited July 3, 2020 by oscar2132 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enemythere Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Congratz Ando i think server down to fix that problem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixa Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 I don't agree. The pvp is dead in l2 and enforcing it in any circumstances is not gonna happen. You have to win the click war and be happy. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXCatania_EtnaXX Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 5 hours ago, iAndouille said: Dear @Juji @Hime We wan't to come up to you'r attention about a big problem the servers are facing right now Due to the recent changes with PK systems, Peoples can't fight anymore to get into Dragons By exemple in Chronos 7/03/20 Clans were gathering up to go fight Dragons, and what happened was a complete mess, Neutrals came with annother Command channel and the "clicking war" Started. Whoever enter first win, This is not how it is intended to be played Neutrals now don't pvp and they just hope to farm everything, and the peoples who gather people to fight for dragons lost it because they didnt clicked first to enter Valakas. With the new PK system we can't just PK everyone to enter into dragons. This is now a major issue that has to be fixed on live servers. Baium Orfen Lilith Anakim are PVP zone, you have to fight for those raids, And Dragons is yet not a pvp zone and we can't do anything to fight Clans who put effort to gather people to play the game correctly are getting punished. Can we have GM thoughts on that topic please. Make Dragon a PVP zone! or Enable multiple CC to enter into dragons. The biggest pve event in server now is completely broken ! we need a fix I really love see top spenders come here to cry when lose finally a monopolized stuff. ahahahahah. "Make pvp zone QQ i've putted thousands of money to monopolyze everything" yea, what make pvp if it's broken since this game became a broken luxury casinò for top spenders? Sometime before talk you have to think what's the global situation of stuff. But i know when top spenders lose a Monopoly of something is hard to accept. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM-T Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 I think on the contrary, that all the bump raid areas should not be pvp, and the new pk system would make sense, or make instances of it, everyone should have a chance to do them, but indeed still should be able to kill them , but it doesn't matter, the main thing and to leave the doors open to everyone, and that everything is not always monopolized by the hight gears who force to have everything, all the time, always end up being bored , it's necessary to put them more difficulty and chalenges. You are luckier to chronos, because better gears overall, so more possibilities to do them, it's more complicated on naia, we are facing the market, supply and demand problem that take us to the throat which the richest exploit, speculate, which makes the prices are exorbitant, and sometimes crazy ppl mode "possessions". There are 2, 3 clans which have the monopoly, unfortunately for the others! Thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draecke Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 funny how this topic pops up every other year, has been for many years. basically since the start of the game L2 dramaz & greed ftw! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nawdur Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 lets do it better, make it safe zone, or can port from city. So every ppl on server who meets the lvl can port. so random CC can port too!. Let the click war begun!. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slycutter Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) Here is my problem the raids "smaller" clans or allies can do not drop anything. I saw the drop list for a recent faurfion raid and that would be game breaking if general clans put those things to market. Market is out of control. A cloak should cost more than a weapon and weapon should not cost 150 billion adena. There is no way to craft anything because of the ether issues max of 150 ether person per day and you cannot trade it; Took me 10 days to farm enough ether (not counting what else was needed) to just try to craft a shield that failed. No way to farm adena efficiently and there no drops or spoils outside r110 areas which you guessed you need r110 gear to farm. The system is broken everywhere the only way to fix it to start drops going to the "middle" class clans so no I am against a pvp zone on mega raids at least it is not like it was to get noble years ago having to stab baium. Took me 2 months and friends in the power clan for me to sneak me in to get noble. You cannot create log jams and except people to keep playing the top clans fear competition they want to just dominate, and none pvp zones means its just a luck issue who gets the raid and they do not like that. This game is it best when people max out and playing field levels out... then because a skill issue not a gear or level issue and boy do people who p2w or back in the day bot to win hate that... Edited July 3, 2020 by Slycutter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P1xz Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Why you talking about income when you got lowest gear on MS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryMeARiver Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 How can you pvp when you stay in town only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsVSkills Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 11 hours ago, iAndouille said: Dear @Juji @Hime We wan't to come up to you'r attention about a big problem the servers are facing right now Due to the recent changes with PK systems, Peoples can't fight anymore to get into Dragons By exemple in Chronos 7/03/20 Clans were gathering up to go fight Dragons, and what happened was a complete mess, Neutrals came with annother Command channel and the "clicking war" Started. Whoever enter first win, This is not how it is intended to be played Neutrals now don't pvp and they just hope to farm everything, and the peoples who gather people to fight for dragons lost it because they didnt clicked first to enter Valakas. With the new PK system we can't just PK everyone to enter into dragons. This is now a major issue that has to be fixed on live servers. Baium Orfen Lilith Anakim are PVP zone, you have to fight for those raids, And Dragons is yet not a pvp zone and we can't do anything to fight Clans who put effort to gather people to play the game correctly are getting punished. Can we have GM thoughts on that topic please. Make Dragon a PVP zone! or Enable multiple CC to enter into dragons. The biggest pve event in server now is completely broken ! we need a fix Siege is pvp , dragon is pve so those with pvp gear focus on siege those with pve focus on dragons . Raids is pvp and pve . @juji this is how things are and should be . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsVSkills Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Nawdur said: lets do it better, make it safe zone, or can port from city. So every ppl on server who meets the lvl can port. so random CC can port too!. Let the click war begun!. That would only benefit andruile he is the one and only to never leave town . So no thanks . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afum Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 45 minutes ago, P1xz said: Why you talking about income when you got lowest gear on MS What does that has to do with income ? lowest gear and still wiping you out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P1xz Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Haha owh yes getting one shot from pve bow wiping something else but not me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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