Any chance to update reward list from events ?

[GoldBar]

- Blood-stained Cursed Weapons / Cursed Weapon Bloods : Let everyone have chance to get it like Dragon weapons / Dragon claws .
- Imposible items ( so much of the item have been made with exploit restore system already ), so please add them to reward list to let everyone have chance to get it also, item include :
 + Shilen's Soul Crytal level 8,9,10
 + Legendary Cloak +18,+19,+20
 + Legendary Dye level 7,8,9,10
 + Weapon R110 : +20,....,+30 
 + Queen Navari's Mask +8,+9,+10
 + Dragon jewel +6,+7,+8,+9,+10
 + Angel Ring +8,+9,+10 ( the ring Tradeabled , Not +10 Fallen Angel's Ring Box that cannot be trade)
Players that have spent so much money for this game feeling unfair coz they cant get that items, but the cheater get it for free .

Edited September 13, 2020 by GoldBar

[Ocean]

I want to express my opinion on this: nowadays the game has become more and more distant from being an official server, since those who want to do a favor can do it without problems, if you don't want to ban a player, there will be the rest of players of the game server to remove it with clear discrimination and threats from players who MAY abuse rules that are now as if they were not written.

1) in the past to enchant an item it was planned to create a character (usually a dwarf crafter) who had the possibility of having a large amount of basic luck compared to other types of races. Now, on the other hand, those who know the "most convenient shortcuts" made sure that the aforementioned items change ID and ensure that the gm restore it without problems. So now there is no longer a need to do all that and abuse "right knowledge directly".

2) Now that the interested parties have finished doing this they have unique items in the enchantment, which they can sell at any price they want in and outside the game;) so by saying this you have only fueled a market behind the game instead of trying to focus on game itself.

3) Many players have given up their grip seeing these obscene behaviors by those who SHOULD do something, it seems the right time to punish in a just and dutiful way of those who abuse everything or you have reached the point of having to satisfy only those who are there more sympathetic?

4) Cursed weapon: I don't want to put my mouth on the various methods that are not very honest to take them, but at least why not introduce them as a reward as many players cried for years for one?

This is no longer an official server in my honest opinion.

Edited September 13, 2020 by Ocean

[DiBui]

 

@Juji @Hime
Time to officially quit this game because the whole GM crew doesn't really care about players' feelings about TOO MANY ITEMS got abused and ruin this game. 

@GoldBar  Thanks for bringing this up again. GMs already confirmed that they won't do anything about it. Basically those item abusers got away with all those abused items for free while other players who paid tons of money for every event for nothing and just sitting looking these abusers running around with those IMPOSSIBLE items
- If you can't do anything about it, please refund us all the money that we paid for events.  We're not paying money for these abusers to play for free. 

You created a CHEATED system where these abusers can get IMPOSSIBLE items for free (A LOT OF THEM). Then you block it and not doing anything about those abused items. So players like us don't get anything because we're playing the legit way. Don't you think you are making your server a PIRATE server?

Do you even know how players like us feel? Put yourself in our place and think instead. Specifically, as myself for example, I pay over $10,000 over the past 3 months for events to earn items the LEGIT way. But we don't get any good stuff from it. I'm ok with it because it's part of the game. BUT Sitting here seeing these abusers CHEATED the system to get items for free while I have to spend a ton of $$$? If you are me, what will you do

You guys still think it's ok for them to do it and you are not gonna do anything about it.

Outside you said you already resolved the issue like @Juji said in the forum but it's a LIE. They are still running around with A LOT of those abused items. NONE of them got reversed at all
I already got confirmation from GMs that they won't do anything about it.

 

[SilverFish]

that will be right way for ecomonics of game and company - let be online  casino and that is end. put all in same fair condition - force all players , who wants top gear in fast and easy way ,  buy in-game gambling box, not look for holes in enchanting / whatever_you_will_make_next_time.

 

make also box with better rewards chance\list  non-traidable - so if you want get something better, get job and visa\mastercard, dont live in game and from game.  NCSOFT shoudl start to make money for own salary! 

[ArtaX]

That would be really good, The Shilen/dragon/restoration exploit made many people get advantage from cheating, and they were not punished in any way (don't say that is different because NOONE got banned and NOONE got his item back to previous enchant in the 2 servers), so the best way to get some equiality with NON CHEATERS would be to make those items "simple" to do, so if a person made for example a shilen10 with exploit don't have a 1trilion item but an item that is worth 100kk, it would be really good, and it would take money in the wallett of NcSoft for sure

[TheWall]

I never speak on forum because most of time i read simple crying and non-sense accusing between players, but this time i read a really good idea.

Making items that were possible to do only with exploit (I think that only 1 or 2 people in the two servers made it without restoration, if there is any) available to everyone via event it's a good way to punish who made exploit (they will not have that item only for them) without losing money (good for ncsoft) and without punishing other players (that now cannot restore almost anymore any item).

@Juji should think about this good idea. We saw that chronos have new life now with a lot more equipped characters, if the events can give some more equip to players probably we will see a huge amount of people that can fight and more interested to play

[Crisael]

I honestly have to agree with most of what guys already written; 

One of the things I like most in L2 is its hard progression curve: to get something real good you need a long time, several tries and, of course, luck. The abuse of the restoration system showed us all that there were people making fun of us all and of the game itself, gaining an insane advantage and using this edge to monopolyze certain parts of the game and, some people say, to sell this items inside and outside of the game for sky-high prices.

I do pay and play events, but I perfectly know that the only way I could get some particular items would be buying it from the people who got them cheating for an out of proportion amount of adena, since we know that the items Goldbar is talking about are almost impossible to craft. Maybe, adding them to random rewards of events could be a way to balance a little bit the situation that those exploit created. I don't know if it's the best solution, but I'm pretty sure things would not get worse.

[LordDragnil]

Armour, weapons, enchants with high(important) rate. Many of them will be crystallize, although we need crystals too.

[mixa]

Imo add every item to a game helper npc and close down the servers in 30 days afterwards.

Only customers here, barely any players left.

[Lean]

16 hours ago, GoldBar said:

- Blood-stained Cursed Weapons / Cursed Weapon Bloods : Let everyone have chance to get it like Dragon weapons / Dragon claws .
- Imposible items ( so much of the item have been made with exploit restore system already ), so please add them to reward list to let everyone have chance to get it also, item include :
 + Shilen's Soul Crytal level 8,9,10
 + Legendary Cloak +18,+19,+20
 + Legendary Dye level 7,8,9,10
 + Weapon R110 : +20,....,+30 
 + Queen Navari's Mask +8,+9,+10
 + Dragon jewel +6,+7,+8,+9,+10
 + Angel Ring +8,+9,+10 ( the ring Tradeabled , Not +10 Fallen Angel's Ring Box that cannot be trade)
Players that have spent so much money for this game feeling unfair coz they cant get that items, but the cheater get it for free .

Perfect, but i believe will never happen, unfortunately.

[Saladyn]

+++

Total Agree,  Some ppl are cheting and rest ppl are being punished becouse of those few person, who should be banned long time ago

[LordDragnil]

6 hours ago, Lean said:

Perfect, but i believe will never happen, unfortunately.

Just wait

[Pr1nce77]

I agree 100 per cent with that suggestion althought that the players whould need to invest more money in order to get what thouse abusers get for free.

I really dont undertant how it is possible GM's to not be able to locate thouse people. The funny part is that 90% of them are people who have spend 0 $ in this game. Also it happents to be all of them from one side (at least in Naia). All community knows who are they but GMs not!!!! anyway.  

Since GMs are not able to do nothing!!!!! at least to put in an event with chances to aquire all the high enchant items that abusers took for free. It is the least that NcSoft should do in order to balance the game. That kind of things i have seen them happening only on illegal servers.As i am an old players of l2 , i remember that Ncsoft never allowed that kind of expoits at the past, every time they use to ban the players and taked back the itemes cause it is an official server . Otherwise i really dont  understant why someone to spend time and money here . 

 

Edited September 14, 2020 by Pr1nce77

[DiBui]

I still don't know why you guys are still playing this game in which we pay $$$ for the item abusers to play for free. We must be really stupid to pay $$$ for events in hope of getting good items

Why should we waste tons of $$$ on making high +++++++ on weapons, armors, shillen crystal, dyes, dragon jewels, and many more? Don't we feed stupid to do that? so we spend $$$ to get items BUT these items abusers just sitting there repeating the restorations to achieve those IMPOSSIBLE ITEMS for free (Enchant, fail, restore, enchant, fail, restore)?

When asked to reverse those abused items, GMs just ignore and told the community that they already took actions but the fact is it's all LIES. No actions were taken. Now only those abusers have access to those IMPOSSIBLE ITEMS because GMs block and not reverse those

No need to spend time and money into this PIRATE game anymore. Better spend it somewhere else

[Lean]

1 hour ago, DiBui said:

I still don't know why you guys are still playing this game in which we pay $$$ for the item abusers to play for free. We must be really stupid to pay $$$ for events in hope of getting good items

Why should we waste tons of $$$ on making high +++++++ on weapons, armors, shillen crystal, dyes, dragon jewels, and many more? Don't we feed stupid to do that? so we spend $$$ to get items BUT these items abusers just sitting there repeating the restorations to achieve those IMPOSSIBLE ITEMS for free (Enchant, fail, restore, enchant, fail, restore)?

When asked to reverse those abused items, GMs just ignore and told the community that they already took actions but the fact is it's all LIES. No actions were taken. Now only those abusers have access to those IMPOSSIBLE ITEMS because GMs block and not reverse those

No need to spend time and money into this PIRATE game anymore. Better spend it somewhere else

honestly neither me

[SilverFish]

On 14/09/2020 at 3:20 PM, Pr1nce77 said:

I really dont undertant how it is possible GM's to not be able to locate thouse people. The funny part is that 90% of them are people who have spend 0 $ in this game. Also it happents to be all of them from one side (at least in Naia). All community knows who are they but GMs not!!!! anyway. 

So here we should speak or about bad managment of business or high level of curruption. Both cases make damage business and i still cannt decide what is worse in case of game - making advantage on purpose, or just being too scary to agree with own mistakes.

[DiBui]

I would recommend you all not to spend a dime into this game because no matter how much money u spend into this game for events, you won't get anything good from it.

But on the other side (THE BLIND SIDE), where most of players are behind in tricks of exploits of these item abusers, they are making IMPOSSIBLE ITEMS for FREE. 

$$$ invested to get nothing good        VS.        $0 invested and get  IMPOSSIBLE items (in a CHEATED way supported by NCSoft staffs)    ======>>>        If you're a smart person, stop spending a dime for this game and ask GMs for justice until they do something. Otherwise, it's pointless to play this PIRATE game. 

I regret spending too much for this game to support these ITEM ABUSERS. That will never happens again. Farewell to all the cheaters (items abusers, scripters...) !!

[Lego]

On 13/09/2020 at 2:39 AM, GoldBar said:

- Blood-stained Cursed Weapons / Cursed Weapon Bloods : Let everyone have chance to get it like Dragon weapons / Dragon claws .
- Imposible items ( so much of the item have been made with exploit restore system already ), so please add them to reward list to let everyone have chance to get it also, item include :
 + Shilen's Soul Crytal level 8,9,10
 + Legendary Cloak +18,+19,+20
 + Legendary Dye level 7,8,9,10
 + Weapon R110 : +20,....,+30 
 + Queen Navari's Mask +8,+9,+10
 + Dragon jewel +6,+7,+8,+9,+10
 + Angel Ring +8,+9,+10 ( the ring Tradeabled , Not +10 Fallen Angel's Ring Box that cannot be trade)
Players that have spent so much money for this game feeling unfair coz they cant get that items, but the cheater get it for free .

+++ Agree with this, like this, people that made a business from selling adena in game will have no income, making the server become equal, therefore those RMT  people will flee, therefore the server will be clean of "we make real money from game" people. Conduct breaches and Outcome - 

• Buy and sell items or services only through legitimate means authorized by NCSOFT.

Shall i understand that Adena mail spammers and in-game sellers are authorized? I would believe this is bannable offence! Why you have not taken any actions about the well known sellers from out server?

It's not fair for people that invests $+++++ to get nothing and cheaters to get impossible items through your own malfunctions. 

It's pathetic that NCwest made this restoration so bad and allowed people to make impossible items e.g ...... (Shillen's Soul cry lvl 10/Dragon Ring+8 or more), without even consider that some "smart" people will abuse this ++++ without even being penalized for it. How is possible you(NCwest) the promoter of this game to behave with your customer like this: Deleting their posts/locking posts/giving no explanation about actions you have taken, taking in consideration only what you want/ allowing people to make Shillen's lvl 10 and after that stooping that item from being in the "restore" list (i believe this is called discrimination)?i highly doubt your rules of conduct includes discrimination. What sort of respect you show? This is how you expect people to join and invest in the Lineage2 game? @Juji i have asked at least 10 times what have you done about the restoration abusers ? your answer was locking the post, is that comes to you of being professional and respectful? It's simple and crystal clear what you have to do : BAN the people/accounts that have abused the restoration and that's it end of story, problem solved (please don't tell me you can't track them down) If you can't do this i advise you to stept down and let someone else that care about us/our opinions/our views/our complains. Let someone else that does not lock posts because they can't find a pertinent answer. Let someone else that can lead this game in the future not making it end in few months! 

I hope this post will not be deleted and hopefully take something from it @Juji. 

PS: I must Congratulate you for opening the Ketra/Varka areas, this is the best improvement you brought in game since 1950, however more mobs in Field of Silence must be added; like this you will have a free-flow areas of developing characters up to lvl 115. 

Edited September 17, 2020 by Lego

[Machidiel]

To Be honest..i dont understand why ncsoft dont ban yet ,,,the people who make Cheat-Or exploit....The 80% of server have from Restore coin...WHYYY they dont ban the because its not Fair for all THE PLAYERS t spend $$$$ ???

ITs amazing Who the thinks change with this ABUSE Thinks..

ALL use The Restoration... ANd make The items over +++ WITH  illegal way,ITs not far For reall playerssss

Shilien cry  9+10

Legendary Cloak +18,+19,+20

 Dragon jewel 7+8

ANy real Action from gm team?

 

[SilverFish]

since we speak about enchanting:

-improve gear reward box up to actual R110: +8\+10  full items

- add weapon reward box with clean R110 +12 weapons

 

we got big help from Korea, when they added "Exalted" items. So let's help now randoms around improve their gear farther 

[DiBui]

@Juji @Hime  Please have your input on this

Players need your answers because there's no point for us to upgrade our gears or even play this game if this keep going. Imagine yourself paying THOUSANDS of $$$ to upgrade your gears and find out that there are MANY EXPLOITERS are cheating the restoration system and ++++++++++ their gears for FREE. What will you think? I still don't know why you don't do anything about this. This is completely INSANE

[HandsVSkills]

All good server is free and those who made this shilen lvl 10 made them for free . Why pay when you can get anything for free , just need to cheat . Meanwhile I’m  laughing with the anti bot system . 

[mixa]

15 hours ago, DiBui said:

@Juji @Hime  Please have your input on this

Players need your answers because there's no point for us to upgrade our gears or even play this game if this keep going. Imagine yourself paying THOUSANDS of $$$ to upgrade your gears and find out that there are MANY EXPLOITERS are cheating the restoration system and ++++++++++ their gears for FREE. What will you think? I still don't know why you don't do anything about this. This is completely INSANE

Nobody forced you to pay anything, as in the main game advert - Free to play.

Paying to gear yourself is as much as cheating as those restored items, if not even more so. Should they punish you and those who geared themselves by paying?

[LordDragnil]

Abusers do what they are forced to do or what is allowed to do?

If forced: why staff doing this?

If allowed: why allowed?

Both are management problems.

[SilverFish]

5 hours ago, LordDragnil said:

Abusers do what they are forced to do or what is allowed to do?

If forced: why staff doing this?

If allowed: why allowed?

Both are management problems.

yes and no - mostly now that is Fraud problem.

also  would be nice to prevent such thing in future. I dont even ask now - did someone count  money lose or not after previous drama. Need to think about future.

Still Im sure that if need volunturing in beta-testing any new features - just make call on forum and people come