El1te Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Hello guys. Ijust wanted a confirmation, are these items going to be removed on NCwest servers aswell? https://b.l2wiki.com/180221_removal#Items (within a month) Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munch Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Yes, all those items will be removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helv Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Why would they remove fish normal/chili/stew stew? x_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munch Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 32 minutes ago, Helv said: Why would they remove fish normal/chili/stew stew? x_O http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/구원의+장+Final%3A+에티나의+최후+시스템 If you scroll down till the bottom, you'll see the Fishing System changes. Took only a few clicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draecke Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 @Neutron & @Conguero, please confirm that all NCWest L2Store items on the Orfen Update removal list from EU/RU will remain in our NCWest Orfen Update or advise what kind of recompensation we will get as many players spend NCoins on them in the past, stockpiling them etc. and even right now as they're still in our L2Store ? NCWest L2Store items that will be removed in Freya Update: all Energy Drinks (+10 STR/DEX/INT/WIT/runspeed) Entrance Pass: Embryo Command Post Fish Items (Fish/Stews/Fishing Shots/Baits/Fishing Rods) Zodiac Agathions & Zodiac Packs Full list can be found here as also was posted by OP: https://b.l2wiki.com/180221_removal#Items (within a month) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draecke Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 btw for those curious here's EU/RU partial prelim Orfen info, plx note it's eu/ru so may not reflect fully the build ncwest will get but it will give you an idea of what to expect.. https://eu.4gameforum.com/threads/658118/#post-9156851 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharlanna Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Not good... what next?!! This is getting ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draecke Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 11 hours ago, Draecke said: @Neutron & @Conguero, please confirm that all NCWest L2Store items on the Orfen Update removal list from EU/RU will remain in our NCWest Orfen Update or advise what kind of recompensation we will get as many players spend NCoins on them in the past, stockpiling them etc. and even right now as they're still in our L2Store ? NCWest L2Store items that will be removed in Freya Update: all Energy Drinks (+10 STR/DEX/INT/WIT/runspeed) Entrance Pass: Embryo Command Post Fish Items (Fish/Stews/Fishing Shots/Baits/Fishing Rods) Zodiac Agathions & Zodiac Packs Full list can be found here as also was posted by OP: https://b.l2wiki.com/180221_removal#Items (within a month) @Neutron please respond on these concerns as from the looks next update will be released within 2 Months and for players to be able to deal with just that items removal list will require a minimum of a Months heads up and that's purely for those items that were aquired through ingame means.. the L2Store items are a complete different matter and should be removed from L2Store right away to halt any further impact if those will not remain ingame on NCWest servers and either a recompensation plan or some kind of equal value replacement process be that by auto update by GM/Server Admins during a maintenance or ingame NPC trade exchange option should be put in place. communications aka upfront informing your player base/customers is key here and will be much appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devoid Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 6 hours ago, Draecke said: @Neutron please respond on these concerns as from the looks next update will be released within 2 Months and for players to be able to deal with just that items removal list will require a minimum of a Months heads up and that's purely for those items that were aquired through ingame means.. the L2Store items are a complete different matter and should be removed from L2Store right away to halt any further impact if those will not remain ingame on NCWest servers and either a recompensation plan or some kind of equal value replacement process be that by auto update by GM/Server Admins during a maintenance or ingame NPC trade exchange option should be put in place. communications aka upfront informing your player base/customers is key here and will be much appreciated! Wait a second, in Korea, didn't they simply block the usage of those items and changed so you could resell to store for the same price as it was originally purchased for? And weren't the Zodiac starred agathions automatically converted to their bracelet-with-charm-slots equivalent? These massive RU/EU deletions are indeed a concern, because generally there is no real reason to wipe those items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharlanna Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 13 minutes ago, Devoid said: Wait a second, in Korea, didn't they simply block the usage of those items and changed so you could resell to store for the same price as it was originally purchased for? And weren't the Zodiac starred agathions automatically converted to their bracelet-with-charm-slots equivalent? These massive RU/EU deletions are indeed a concern, because generally there is no real reason to wipe those items. I have two 2 star Blessed Agathion 30-day packs. When I go to the Dimensional Merchant there's an option to exchange it for Stage 9. I was going to sell one but after reading all this I can't do it. Just holding off til we all know what's going on. And then there's the issue with them deleting other items like Energy Drinks, AF passes and fish stews. If all this happens it will be the icing on the cake. smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keoz Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Lol, that's quite a difference in community service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yidao Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 For comparison, when zauliuz asked a similar question on the Innova forum, DIL answered after 17 minutes:https://eu.4gameforum.com/threads/658102/#post-9156727 Neutron, please check the Korean situation concerning the Entrance Pass: Embryo Command Post:http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=2094&start=100#p38267 The Innova list of deleted items may apply to NCWest fully or in part or not at all. Most of those item deletions are not mentioned in the Korean patch notes (they have a different Agathion System). This means Innova has not only Preliminary Patch Notes based on the Korean version but the real Orfen thing. You should have the corresponding one for NCWest. If Energy Drinks and Atelia Passes will really be removed, you should take those things out of the L2Store right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Typical lack of customer service. Probably too busy planning the next money-grabbing event to bother with the paying customers. Thank goodness Yidao is here, anyway. I'd like an answer to the questions, too, though, especially as to the fish stews and any changes to the fishing system in our next update. Will we get the changes described in the link above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiccUps Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 @Neutron Why not let me know as well if I was yet again sukred into buying items you will delete. Everyone needs a 'cherry on top' of the continuous *cough* LMFAO. Cheers...oh ya....when you are thinking about a response to any earlier question, maybe come up with a *cough* answer as to why you shut the door on people's ability to narrow the gap - start with the removal of 'IMMORTAL SCROLLS' from Heine events.....simple enough to ask for one answer......just one answer...can't be that tough..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharlanna Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 The sad thing is that almost 600 people have reviewed this topic but most of them either don't care or just too lazy to post anything. No wonder NCW doesn't respond. The majority of people playing L2 these days turn a blinds eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalumInSe Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 NEVERMIND: I found the answer. If they're removing the dual and subclass skill certificates, does that also mean that they're eliminating those skills for all classes? Will everyone be like Ertheia at that point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draecke Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, MalumInSe said: NEVERMIND: I found the answer. If they're removing the dual and subclass skill certificates, does that also mean that they're eliminating those skills for all classes? Will everyone be like Ertheia at that point? no the process will be changed a little and end result is that only 2 skills get removed and you will be able to retake the rest again after update with even a new skill to chose from added to the list the skills that get removed will be missed though as those are the physical & mental resist traits https://eu.4gameforum.com/threads/658069/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draecke Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 @Neutron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zLOsyn Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 @Neutron We would really appreciate an official statement to this affair. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yidao Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Neutron and Conguero are of Anglo-Saxon descent and are possibly on a Fourth of July vacation. But it would be a matter of common courtesy if whoever holds the fort (Hime?) makes a short post that they have seen this thread, understood the problem and are working on a solution. 17 minutes vs. 3 days and counting. Hime, as you can see from the discussion on Rochand, the matter is complex. El1te has raised an absolutely valid point. But DIL has shown you a path to salvation:http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=2094&start=110#p38269 All you have to do is follow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneWingedAngle Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Well, I almost sure, that they do not know anything about next update. It is high probability , that they do not even got files to translate. It is just sad, that "our staff"(it is hard to call them staff, coz they are only put maintenace information) Do you not learned yet, that they even do not read this forum ? So how they can reply to our posts ? With their "care" about Lineage 2, we can expect new update in September/October. Their explenation? "We need to test new game build, and if we find any bug, we need to wait 4 weeks to fix files" Look, in current update we have few bugs, which are waiting for fix. They promiced, that they will test new mainenace files and inform us, when sth will change. And ? RB respawn was changed w/o any note. This game with current staff do not now have "shine" future, It is sad, but true Belive in NCWest staff is like belive, that sand castles will survire a storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helv Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 8 hours ago, OneWingedAngle said: Do you not learned yet, that they even do not read this forum ? So how they can reply to our posts ? Oh they do read it, the inconvenient posts and even the whole threads get deleted rather quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatherFortuitous Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Well, well, well...what fresh new hell is this??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El1te Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 So no answer? should we use items prior update or keep them?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beleaua Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 On 7/8/2018 at 11:00 AM, Yidao said: Neutron and Conguero are of Anglo-Saxon descent and are possibly on a Fourth of July vacation. But it would be a matter of common courtesy if whoever holds the fort (Hime?) makes a short post that they have seen this thread, understood the problem and are working on a solution. 17 minutes vs. 3 days and counting. Hime, as you can see from the discussion on Rochand, the matter is complex. El1te has raised an absolutely valid point. But DIL has shown you a path to salvation:http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=2094&start=110#p38269 All you have to do is follow it. Hime is active since many years ago on Aion forum but mostly with weekly messages and responses to f.a.q. She is also presenting and responding on streams when a new big update comes in that game but never saw her responding to random threads. So don't expect any response here, not only that because she doesn't do that but because I doubt very much if she knows much about L2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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