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Helv    65

Why would they remove fish normal/chili/stew stew? x_O

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Draecke    248
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@Neutron & @Conguero, please confirm that all NCWest L2Store items on the Orfen Update removal list from EU/RU will remain in our NCWest Orfen Update or advise what kind of recompensation we will get as many players spend NCoins on them in the past, stockpiling them etc. and even right now as they're still in our L2Store ?

NCWest L2Store items that will be removed in Freya Update:

  • all Energy Drinks (+10 STR/DEX/INT/WIT/runspeed)
  • Entrance Pass: Embryo Command Post
  • Fish Items (Fish/Stews/Fishing Shots/Baits/Fishing Rods)
  • Zodiac Agathions & Zodiac Packs 

Full list can be found here as also was posted by OP: https://b.l2wiki.com/180221_removal#Items (within a month)

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Draecke    248
11 hours ago, Draecke said:

@Neutron & @Conguero, please confirm that all NCWest L2Store items on the Orfen Update removal list from EU/RU will remain in our NCWest Orfen Update or advise what kind of recompensation we will get as many players spend NCoins on them in the past, stockpiling them etc. and even right now as they're still in our L2Store ?

NCWest L2Store items that will be removed in Freya Update:

  • all Energy Drinks (+10 STR/DEX/INT/WIT/runspeed)
  • Entrance Pass: Embryo Command Post
  • Fish Items (Fish/Stews/Fishing Shots/Baits/Fishing Rods)
  • Zodiac Agathions & Zodiac Packs 

Full list can be found here as also was posted by OP: https://b.l2wiki.com/180221_removal#Items (within a month)

@Neutron please respond on these concerns as from the looks next update will be released within 2 Months and for players to be able to deal with just that items removal list will require a minimum of a Months heads up and that's purely for those items that were aquired through ingame means..

the L2Store items are a complete different matter and should be removed from L2Store right away to halt any further impact if those will not remain ingame on NCWest servers and either a recompensation plan or some kind of equal value replacement process be that by auto update by GM/Server Admins during a maintenance or ingame NPC trade exchange option should be put in place.

communications aka upfront informing your player base/customers is key here and will be much appreciated!

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Devoid    113
6 hours ago, Draecke said:

@Neutron please respond on these concerns as from the looks next update will be released within 2 Months and for players to be able to deal with just that items removal list will require a minimum of a Months heads up and that's purely for those items that were aquired through ingame means..

the L2Store items are a complete different matter and should be removed from L2Store right away to halt any further impact if those will not remain ingame on NCWest servers and either a recompensation plan or some kind of equal value replacement process be that by auto update by GM/Server Admins during a maintenance or ingame NPC trade exchange option should be put in place.

communications aka upfront informing your player base/customers is key here and will be much appreciated!

Wait a second, in Korea, didn't they simply block the usage of those items and changed so you could resell to store for the same price as it was originally purchased for?

And weren't the Zodiac starred agathions automatically converted to their bracelet-with-charm-slots equivalent?

These massive RU/EU deletions are indeed a concern, because generally there is no real reason to wipe those items.

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Sharlanna    35
13 minutes ago, Devoid said:

Wait a second, in Korea, didn't they simply block the usage of those items and changed so you could resell to store for the same price as it was originally purchased for?

And weren't the Zodiac starred agathions automatically converted to their bracelet-with-charm-slots equivalent?

These massive RU/EU deletions are indeed a concern, because generally there is no real reason to wipe those items.

I have two 2 star Blessed Agathion 30-day packs. When I go to the Dimensional Merchant there's an option to exchange it for Stage 9. I was going to sell one but after reading all this I can't do it. Just holding off til we all know what's going on. And then there's the issue with them deleting other items like Energy Drinks, AF passes and fish stews. If all this happens it will be the icing on the cake. smh

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Keoz    15

Lol, that's quite a difference in community service

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Yidao    134

For comparison, when zauliuz asked a similar question on the Innova forum, DIL answered after 17 minutes:
https://eu.4gameforum.com/threads/658102/#post-9156727

:D

 

Neutron, please check the Korean situation concerning the Entrance Pass: Embryo Command Post:
http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=2094&start=100#p38267

The Innova list of deleted items may apply to NCWest fully or in part or not at all. Most of those item deletions are not mentioned in the Korean patch notes (they have a different Agathion System). This means Innova has not only Preliminary Patch Notes based on the Korean version but the real Orfen thing. You should have the corresponding one for NCWest. If Energy Drinks and Atelia Passes will really be removed, you should take those things out of the L2Store right now.

 

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Typical lack of customer service.  Probably too busy planning the next money-grabbing event to bother with the paying customers.  Thank goodness Yidao is here, anyway.  I'd like an answer to the questions, too, though, especially as to the fish stews and any changes to the fishing system in our next update.  Will we get the changes described in the link above?

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HiccUps    13

@Neutron Why not let me know as well if I was yet again sukred into buying items you will delete. Everyone needs a 'cherry on top' of the continuous *cough* LMFAO.

Cheers...oh ya....when you are thinking about a response to any earlier question, maybe come up with a *cough* answer as to why you shut the door on people's ability to narrow the gap - start with the removal of 'IMMORTAL SCROLLS' from Heine events.....simple enough to ask for one answer......just one answer...can't be that tough..... O.o

 

 

 

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Sharlanna    35
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The sad thing is that almost 600 people have reviewed this topic but most of them either don't care or just too lazy to post anything. No wonder NCW doesn't respond. The majority of people playing L2 these days turn a blinds eye.

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MalumInSe    4
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NEVERMIND: I found the answer.

 

If they're removing the dual and subclass skill certificates, does that also mean that they're eliminating those skills for all classes? Will everyone be like Ertheia at that point?

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I found the answer.

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Draecke    248
9 minutes ago, MalumInSe said:

NEVERMIND: I found the answer.

 

If they're removing the dual and subclass skill certificates, does that also mean that they're eliminating those skills for all classes? Will everyone be like Ertheia at that point?

no the process will be changed a little and end result is that only 2 skills get removed and you will be able to retake the rest again after update with even a new skill to chose from added to the list

the skills that get removed will be missed though as those are the physical & mental resist traits

https://eu.4gameforum.com/threads/658069/

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Yidao    134

Neutron and Conguero are of Anglo-Saxon descent and are possibly on a Fourth of July vacation. But it would be a matter of common courtesy if whoever holds the fort (Hime?) makes a short post that they have seen this thread, understood the problem and are working on a solution. 17 minutes vs. 3 days and counting.

Hime, as you can see from the discussion on Rochand, the matter is complex. El1te has raised an absolutely valid point. But DIL has shown you a path to salvation:
http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=2094&start=110#p38269
All you have to do is follow it.

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Well,

I almost sure, that they do not know anything about next update.

It is high probability , that they do not even got files to translate.

It is just sad, that "our staff"(it is hard to call them staff, coz they are only put maintenace information)

Do you not learned yet, that they even do not read this forum ? So how they can reply to our posts ?

With their "care" about Lineage 2, we can expect new update in September/October.

Their explenation?

"We need to test new game build, and if we find any bug, we need to wait 4 weeks to fix files"

Look,

in current update we have few bugs, which are waiting for fix.

They promiced, that they will test new mainenace files and inform us, when sth will change.

And ?

RB respawn was changed w/o any note.

This game with current staff do not now have "shine" future, It is sad, but true

Belive in NCWest staff is like belive, that sand castles will survire a storm

 

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Helv    65
8 hours ago, OneWingedAngle said:

Do you not learned yet, that they even do not read this forum ? So how they can reply to our posts ?

Oh they do read it, the inconvenient posts and even the whole threads get deleted rather quickly.

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El1te    0

So no answer? should we use items prior update or keep them??

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beleaua    66
On 7/8/2018 at 11:00 AM, Yidao said:

Neutron and Conguero are of Anglo-Saxon descent and are possibly on a Fourth of July vacation. But it would be a matter of common courtesy if whoever holds the fort (Hime?) makes a short post that they have seen this thread, understood the problem and are working on a solution. 17 minutes vs. 3 days and counting.

Hime, as you can see from the discussion on Rochand, the matter is complex. El1te has raised an absolutely valid point. But DIL has shown you a path to salvation:
http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=2094&start=110#p38269
All you have to do is follow it.

Hime is active since many years ago on Aion forum but mostly with weekly messages and responses to f.a.q. She is also presenting and responding on streams when a new big update comes in that game but never saw her responding to random threads. So don't expect any response here, not only that because she doesn't do that but because I doubt very much if she knows much about L2.

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