KissMyKnife Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Ok enough of this. I have only 649 Attack Attribute in othell and 689 on yull with normal lv5/lv2 buffs, i have +110, + 50 on tanga in othell and +4 on yull cause ari its water only, so normaly 809 on othell and 839 on yull here is my list where i get AA Veteran Mask +25 Circlet + 50 Lv1 Seed Bracelet +50 Artifact Attack Attribute Balance +30 Opal lv3 40 ah, i guess i know what i need to do here. Even if i get 1 Opal lv5, still need like +300, WHERE? If i buy a +12 Bloody R110, i will get +150 so cut half, the missed attribute, but still need 150 more minimum, +170 on Shining tonic + Rose Before you ask why yull have more attack attribute, because was learn attack attribute on wizard tree as well after i learn all usefull skill on warrior tree So looking othel and or yull, who have only normal iss buff, have around 1200 attack attribute you can have more, no problem, at least i see some available item that help me to go higher in attribute, plz dont add event items, and time limited items on the list, just mentioned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socketka Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 7s armor aug opal artifact angel ring craft artifact book enchant dual skill collection items just to name few. learn game maybe, newbie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodah Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 I have 1350 unbuffed; r110 weap - 450 Circlet - 50 +5 Navari - 35 +8 Angel Earring - 30 Anakim Charm - 30 lv4 Opal - 70 Agathion - 50 Seven Signs - 50 lv4 Artifact - 50 Clan Advent lv13 - 25 +3 Top Grade Book - 80 Armor Augments - 190 (50,50,30,30,30) Advanced Dual Skill - 50 AP - 130 Top 10 Class - 30 +6 Bless Angel Necklace (collection) - 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KissMyKnife Posted March 23, 2021 Author Share Posted March 23, 2021 sry yes have Dual Class Skill wasnt mentioned it in artifact have the npc 1, have other? hm ok i check it. Opal ok 7s maybe angel craft, 10 silenite and 30 ge, could be try 3 5 time, will see. maybe i get stage 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draecke Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 weapons 300 r99 weapon 450 r110 weapon (r110 fighters when enhanced have extra +50 elemental patt) 70 r99/r110 weapon augment 500 DW stage 1 weapon 999 DW stage 2 / cursed / demon weapon 50 dragon weapon augment passives 50 homunculus (+30/+40/+50 pending on grade) 50 dual class skill 30 top 10 class rank talismans 50 combination of 7 sign/epic and longing/insanity/heavenly talisman 70 advanced mammon attack attribute talisman artifact 100 +5 top artifact book 30 artifact element balance 150 artifact element attack +10 bracelet / charms 50 agathion bracelet 30 anakim agathion charm brooch 120 opal 5 130 - 300 superior opal lvl 1 - 10 50 lvl 5 brooch jewel opal augment armor / other items 50 angel ring +6 potential lvl 3 250 armor augmenting (5x +50 max) 50 circlet 30 splendor circlet lvl 4 10 - 60 navari's mask +1 - +10 buffs 20 clan advent lvl 12 100 fantasia harmony buff 10 fantasia melody buff warrior line ability points 40 berserker elemental attack 50 berserker divine attack wizard line ability points 40 magician's elemental shot 50 magician's divine shot consumables 150 mysterious attribute herb 70 glowing dragon attribute potion 100 shining royal dragon attribute potion 100 freya ice or paagrio might 200 briliant freya 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KissMyKnife Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Rodah said: I have 1350 unbuffed; r110 weap - 450 Circlet - 50 +5 Navari - 35 (25) +8 Angel Earring - 30 (+6 have so no right now) Anakim Charm - 30 "time limited item" lv4 Opal - 70 "if i buy it will be lv5, 27b in ah right now" Agathion - 50 "you mean super advanced seed bracelet stage 1?" Seven Signs - 50 "kk" lv4 Artifact - 50 "sure suck a nice joke you mean +0 top " Clan Advent lv13 - 25 "" +3 Top Grade Book - 80 " you just say the +0 top in 2 line before why not say +5? so i have 100" Armor Augments - 190 (50,50,30,30,30) "kk" Advanced Dual Skill - 50 AP - 130 "on yull learn all in othell need 3 more lvl yes 3 i just learn the last usefull on warrior tree so 113 " Top 10 Class - 30 "sarcasm? thx" +6 Bless Angel Necklace (collection) - 30 "hm" let me look ah "17b" kk i see some good 1 i can get, but not sure i can hm Opal ok for lv5. and +4 attack attribute artifact kind of easy Top grate need a lot Crystal of Dawn so no nono. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KissMyKnife Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 Thx bro to show all attribute in game ok lets remove all that i cant offer or have it already armor / 250 armor augmenting (5x +50 max) "ok if i get a ls" So lets see what i can get right now 120 opal 5 "sure sure sure" could be in near future 450 r110 weapon (r110 fighters when enhanced have extra +50 elemental patt) 100 +5 top artifact book "i dont know, its will be around 60b, 50 crystal of dawn its 600x50=30b + 2x+5 could be around 100 scroll, and to make +5 on top, other +100 scroll 50 angel ring +6 potential lvl 3 "try 3 try cost was 5b, stage 1 so now i skip" 50 combination of 7 sign/epic and longing/insanity/heavenly talisman "tempting" +6 Bless Angel Necklace (collection) - 30 Optional choice weapons 300 r99 weapon talismans 70 advanced mammon attack attribute talisman "with the current adena farm, i dont think so" Next Event 150 artifact element attack +10 "maybe 4 i can offer" but not know, in next artifact event better option" Hahaha sure 50 lvl 5 brooch jewel opal augment "sure i have 200b if i sell everything on my inventory, can make like 250b around " 10 - 60 navari's mask +1 - +10 "nah i dont think i can even +5" 819 on othell and 849 on yull current Attribute atm 2 choice have, lv5 opal or perhaps +10 bloody r110 weap i dont think i can offer a +12 bloody one, 90b right now, -2 oe not a big diff on damage right? i lose hm 1.4% shot damage? right now i losed 5b so my adena right now its 50b around, opal + something, will see. probable not r99 weap, just no, i stay on r110, that +150 attribute its a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHyperlite Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 ill post this as it is related to this topic: Lets explain how attack attribute works. Attack attribute can give up to 24% dmg boost on an attack. If for example a mob has Earth Resist rating of 100, and your attack attribute for Earth is 100, you will get no dmg boost on an attack. If your attack attribute is less than 100, you still get no bonus but there is also no negative effect from this. If your attack attribute is 200 in this situation, you will get a 10% dmg bonus on an attack. The max element you can have in this situation to impact your dmg is 340 attack attribute. At 340, you will get 24% dmg boost on an attack. If you have 350 attack attribute, you will still only get 24% dmg boost. There is no benefit going above the upper limit. Now, the question to how much element resist a mob has. See table below. After 118, things may cap out. More testing on this update is needed. 110 - Mob Resist = 1080 / Attack Attribute must be 1080-1320 111 - Mob Resist = 1180 / Attack Attribute must be 1180-1420 112 - Mob Resist = 1280 / Attack Attribute must be 1280-1520 113 - Mob Resist = 1380 / Attack Attribute must be 1380-1620 114 - Mob Resist = 1480 / Attack Attribute must be 1480-1720 115 - Mob Resist = 1580 / Attack Attribute must be 1580-1820 116 - Mob Resist = 1680 / Attack Attribute must be 1680-1920 117 - Mob Resist = 1780 / Attack Attribute must be 1780-2020 118 - Mob Resist = 1880 / Attack Attribute must be 1880-2120 *there may be an upper limit cap to element on a mob 119 - Mob Resist = 1980 / Attack Attribute must be 1980-2220 *there may be an upper limit cap to element on a mob 120 - Mob Resist = 2080 / Attack Attribute must be 2080-2320 *there may be an upper limit cap to element on a mob This should serve as a nice baseline on what to take/use. Also, in my personal experience, mob attack rating is very similar to these ratings as well. 1800-1900 earth resist on defense is a noticeable benefit in places like Wall of Argos, etc. edit: some ppl say the element increases on even levels only, moving up in 200 chunks (ex: 110, 112, 114, etc). If you follow that guideline, default to the previous level rating for odd levels (111, 113, etc) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawe Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 That's nice, but what elemental resist have mobs in Ivory Tower Crater, that's what i need to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHyperlite Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Dawe said: That's nice, but what elemental resist have mobs in Ivory Tower Crater, that's what i need to know for the lower levels (i havent tested these) 100 - Mob Resist = 80 / Attack Attribute must be 80-320 101 - Mob Resist = 180 / Attack Attribute must be 180-420 102 - Mob Resist = 280 / Attack Attribute must be 280-520 103 - Mob Resist = 380 / Attack Attribute must be 380-620 104 - Mob Resist = 480 / Attack Attribute must be 480-720 105 - Mob Resist = 580 / Attack Attribute must be 580-820 106 - Mob Resist = 680 / Attack Attribute must be 680-920 107 - Mob Resist = 780 / Attack Attribute must be 780-1020 108 - Mob Resist = 880 / Attack Attribute must be 880-1120 109 - Mob Resist = 980 / Attack Attribute must be 980-1220 mobs in IT crater are lvl 106. that means you need 580 - 820 atk element. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draecke Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 btw forgot to incl. the elemental defense & attack options from the collection system but that's not quite for the avg player anyways, still have a look there too just in case as for example +6 bless angel epics got cheap atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traingirl Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 On 3/24/2021 at 1:33 PM, iHyperlite said: If your attack attribute is less than 100, you still get no bonus but there is also no negative effect from this. Are you sure that you get no negative effect aka dmg reduction? I am testing in Primeval/storm on a lvl 108 tyrr with exalted stormer tier 2 vs enhanced shadow stormer and the difference is astronomical.(up to 15-20%+ more dmg on high crits. Maximum dmg I saw on primeval was 42k with exalted vs 58k with ESW) In both cases my attribute is quite lower to what the table you posted suggests for a lvl 110 monster. (785 with exalted vs 995 with ESW) I doubt the difference is generated by the 10% extra p attack ESW gives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHyperlite Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Traingirl said: Are you sure that you get no negative effect aka dmg reduction? I am testing in Primeval/storm on a lvl 108 tyrr with exalted stormer tier 2 vs enhanced shadow stormer and the difference is astronomical.(up to 15-20%+ more dmg on high crits. Maximum dmg I saw on primeval was 42k with exalted vs 58k with ESW) In both cases my attribute is quite lower to what the table you posted suggests for a lvl 110 monster. (785 with exalted vs 995 with ESW) I doubt the difference is generated by the 10% extra p attack ESW gives. in all my tests, there is no negative modifier to element. i do the same dmg on 118 mobs regardless of how low my element is. also, dont underestimate what 10% patk can do to dmg on the right class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draecke Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 honestly no way that's correct what you say Hyper as this has been tested by many different ppl and there's a noticeable difference, see above picture feel free to react on that discussion in 4r4m's discord as I tagged you there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHyperlite Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Draecke said: honestly no way that's correct what you say Hyper as this has been tested by many different ppl and there's a noticeable difference, see above picture feel free to react on that discussion in 4r4m's discord as I tagged you there im going off what ive read from ru player testing, which referenced the 110-120 numbers i posted for last patch. if you have better numbers, please post them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godlike123 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 can we have some backup on this post ? it seems interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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