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as the title say the success rate to crate a gem with mats is 60-40 . is this future working? because i think is the  opposite and no just that but the rates are even wοrse that they say on game

my question is this is this normal? or is it buged

if it is normal then u must fix the rates 
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9 hours ago, chrisma said:

as the title say the success rate to crate a gem with mats is 60-40 . is this future working? because i think is the  opposite and no just that but the rates are even wοrse that they say on game

my question is this is this normal? or is it buged


if it is normal then u must fix the rates 

 

every click is unique in and of itself.  much like roulette in a casino.

Just because you fail 1 click, or 20 in a row, does not mean the rate is incorrect.  You just got unlucky on rng.  These %'s are correct when you do 1000s of clicks.  When you have a bad streak, stop for the day and do again a dif day.

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On 11/15/2021 at 11:30 PM, chrisma said:

well all u say are corect but i try with different chars and accounts  and the rates where bad that why i post this maybe others have notice the same or no

The rates are bad in general, more faill than success.

 And yes on diferent accounts 60% success rates and 20 attempts  12 failed-8 success.

50%-50% 10 attempts 7 failed- 3 success  and so one....this is how a day goes more faill than success. 

If 100 people on server attempts 1 craft 60%-40% , 60 people will succeed and 40 faill, you can be in the 40 faill people more than once. 

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compound rate isnt definitely what it says, wanted my greater emerald lv3, after 10 gem energy used only one made it to lv2 :D

we educated ones can even calculate probability of this happening. It's 4.03%. If it would happen to me only, i would say bad luck, but seems I'm not only one.

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12 hours ago, Siri said:

Also more and more ppl telling the rate to craft god jewels must be lower as the 50% / 40%.

Luckily i didn't bother to try.

I clicked 1 gran kain on new system, I have 1 gran kain now in inventory. 

U need to click right after a server comes up. The 1st to click has a better chance each week. 

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On 11/15/2021 at 7:32 AM, chrisma said:

as the title say the success rate to crate a gem with mats is 60-40 . is this future working? because i think is the  opposite and no just that but the rates are even wοrse that they say on game

my question is this is this normal? or is it buged


if it is normal then u must fix the rates 

@iHyperlite I guess he r trying craft lvl 1 with no LUC.

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14 minutes ago, Pernambuquinho said:

@iHyperlite I guess he r trying craft lvl 1 with no LUC.

My mistake, luc affects the craft of lvl 1s. But once you go to compound those to lvl 2, it has no affect. 

 

Also, luc affects lady luc proc. The new craft system and how luc affects it needs tested properly imo. We don't know how it changed exactly, if at all. 

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On 11/15/2021 at 4:32 AM, chrisma said:

as the title say the success rate to crate a gem with mats is 60-40 . is this future working? because i think is the  opposite and no just that but the rates are even wοrse that they say on game

my question is this is this normal? or is it buged



if it is normal then u must fix the rates 

It is Server-wide Global rates... crafting Gemstones is new... so it may be too popular to try NOW(12 crafting = 3 Lvl 1 Rubies > 1 Lvl 1 Ruby) on the same Day I Crafted full Eternal Robe set w/sigil(between 4 toons on same account) and put 3x60 on whole set(on a different toon) with no fails. Originally I was farming Ether mostly AFK to Craft R95 Weapons(some have been holding Ether a while, but they are no longer useful... I can't farm much with them even Live w/o [~$~].)

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On 11/18/2021 at 1:55 PM, iHyperlite said:

I clicked 1 gran kain on new system, I have 1 gran kain now in inventory. 

U need to click right after a server comes up. The 1st to click has a better chance each week. 

Its lol :) If you dont know how randoms working - better not say nothing :)

But you can try swich accounts, pray, or go in water ant ects - for some people its healp :) 

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1 hour ago, Ambicija said:

Its lol :) If you dont know how randoms working - better not say nothing :)

But you can try swich accounts, pray, or go in water ant ects - for some people its healp :) 

Keep doing you dude. You're hatred towards me is rather unhealthy. 

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It is totally random.

I tried GK Stage 1 failed.

I traded items and got GK Stage 1.

I tried GK Stage 2 passed.

A friends tried 6x GK Stage 1 failed.

Another friends made 2 x GK Stage 1 in a row

Another friend did Paagrio Stage 1 & 2 in a row.

Another friend tried 3x Maphyr Ring Stage 2 and failed.

I made  3 x Stage 7 Shilen with 6 boxes, a friend failed 10x on Stage 2 Shilen.

A friends used 40 Amethyst lvl4 before he could make 2x lvl5 out of it and then Greater.

I used like 100 lvl1 Ruby, failed them all, max was lvl3 🤣

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23 minutes ago, extase1987 said:

It is totally random.

I tried GK Stage 1 failed.

I traded items and got GK Stage 1.

I tried GK Stage 2 passed.

A friends tried 6x GK Stage 1 failed.

Another friends made 2 x GK Stage 1 in a row

Another friend did Paagrio Stage 1 & 2 in a row.

Another friend tried 3x Maphyr Ring Stage 2 and failed.

I made  3 x Stage 7 Shilen with 6 boxes, a friend failed 10x on Stage 2 Shilen.

A friends used 40 Amethyst lvl4 before he could make 2x lvl5 out of it and then Greater.

I used like 100 lvl1 Ruby, failed them all, max was lvl3 🤣

 

lineage 2 follows the gacha model for loot boxes, and all item creation.  they dont have to display loot box rates because the rate of items is dynamic and based on how many of a certain item currently exist in the world.  hence, the 1st person to attempt something after a server restart techinally has the best chance. it doesnt mean u are gauranteed a win, but you have better chances than later in the week.

 

every server restart, the scripts that govern this are reset.

 

i dont really care if people dont want to believe this stuff anymore.  every major whale that i have encountered has sworn by this type of mechanic existing.  when I open loot boxes right after a server restart, I typically get better rewards than later in the week, pretty much every time.

 

 

 

edit: i would also argue the same mechanic applies to enchanting and crafting, compounding, everything. everything in this game is connected to turn a profit.

 

 

edit 2: for la vies, i have tried ruby 5 from 2x 4s at least 150 clicks long ago. i never made a 5. thats a 7% click at best odds.

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The success rates, are server related, you do not open a box ore craft at home, every player takes turns on the success rates, server turns the wheel of fortune and every players  takes turns on the success or failure. Every click is taken in consideration in the success rate %

 If someone plays alone on the server then he will get 60%- 40% rate.

But online game all the players that click on craft/ open box take part at the success  rates. That is why it seems  random. 

People joined a online game but act like they play solo game at home.

The server  does not whait for you to finish crafting or ask you " are you done?" Ok I will move the another player now .

It does not matter where you are in the game, but only how many people are crafting/ opening box...

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15 hours ago, iHyperlite said:

 

lineage 2 follows the gacha model for loot boxes, and all item creation.  they dont have to display loot box rates because the rate of items is dynamic and based on how many of a certain item currently exist in the world.  hence, the 1st person to attempt something after a server restart techinally has the best chance. it doesnt mean u are gauranteed a win, but you have better chances than later in the week.

 

every server restart, the scripts that govern this are reset.

 

i dont really care if people dont want to believe this stuff anymore.  every major whale that i have encountered has sworn by this type of mechanic existing.  when I open loot boxes right after a server restart, I typically get better rewards than later in the week, pretty much every time.

 

 

 

edit: i would also argue the same mechanic applies to enchanting and crafting, compounding, everything. everything in this game is connected to turn a profit.

 

 

edit 2: for la vies, i have tried ruby 5 from 2x 4s at least 150 clicks long ago. i never made a 5. thats a 7% click at best odds.

I see you till now not undestan what ist random, waht is it compund, what is ir craft and what is it enchanting - but feel rigt to talk trash.

OK - I will help you litle. In random sistem parcitipating all who online. But problem that random start working at this moment when server get power and procesors start counting. Server - but not game. Not mix. Other more fun - the same random working on mobs, on crits ant etc. And one more fun - Its not 1 random proces - but many.

And from all this just need uderstand - even if you have random table - know when will be luc or when no - you newer not understan in whish line random proces now. Its imposible.

But yes - exist some triks to make biger shanse get sucses.

P.S.: Mitzza this understand much more better then you. 

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7 hours ago, Ambicija said:

I see you till now not undestan what ist random, waht is it compund, what is ir craft and what is it enchanting - but feel rigt to talk trash.

OK - I will help you litle. In random sistem parcitipating all who online. But problem that random start working at this moment when server get power and procesors start counting. Server - but not game. Not mix. Other more fun - the same random working on mobs, on crits ant etc. And one more fun - Its not 1 random proces - but many.

And from all this just need uderstand - even if you have random table - know when will be luc or when no - you newer not understan in whish line random proces now. Its imposible.

But yes - exist some triks to make biger shanse get sucses.

P.S.: Mitzza this understand much more better then you. 

 

i have no clue wtf u just said, sorry.  you constantly tell people they are wrong then write incoherent posts talking about multiple topics that provide nothing of substance.

 

have a good day buddy.

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4 hours ago, iHyperlite said:

 

i have no clue wtf u just said, sorry.  you constantly tell people they are wrong then write incoherent posts talking about multiple topics that provide nothing of substance.

 

have a good day buddy.

You slow learning L2. But ok - posible after 5-10 years you will understand what i said.

Also posible its my last atention on your post. Normally i not have time to talk with people with limited knowleges. (i have problem - if exist an person who not have knowleges but he thiking are smart - 100% i will have conflikt).

Have a nice day.

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