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I have a +12 bloody R110 dual dagg with 3 SA as follows :

1. Kain 8 - p.skill crit dmg 13%
2. Leona 9 - atk. spd 9% + p.skill crit dmg 7%

3. Exalted - p.skill crit dmg 7%

Now i was wondering if it's worth changing the Leona 9 to another Kain 8 and getting p.atk crit dmg 13%
I'm not sure if p.skill crit dmg and p.atk crit dmg have the same impact on overall dmg as skills always crit
Is there any difference in how dmg is calculated fomr p.atk crit dmg or p.skill crit dmg ?

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2 hours ago, Marsulici said:

I have a +12 bloody R110 dual dagg with 3 SA as follows :

1. Kain 8 - p.skill crit dmg 13%
2. Leona 9 - atk. spd 9% + p.skill crit dmg 7%

3. Exalted - p.skill crit dmg 7%

Now i was wondering if it's worth changing the Leona 9 to another Kain 8 and getting p.atk crit dmg 13%
I'm not sure if p.skill crit dmg and p.atk crit dmg have the same impact on overall dmg as skills always crit
Is there any difference in how dmg is calculated fomr p.atk crit dmg or p.skill crit dmg ?

Proper sa's are:

Kain Death

Kain Fire

Vague punishment

 

Stack all crit dmg, that atk speed is worthless on you 

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10 hours ago, Marsulici said:

Thx; thought so too, but wanted to make sure.
So for a dagger, either   p.skill crit dmg   or   p.atk crit dmg   has the same impact on overall dmg, right ?

 

2 hours ago, FallenSoul said:

What about fire and critical fire ? Both have p.skill critical dmg. 

P skill crit dmg = p atk crit dmg in how they increase your dmg on target. 

 

It's better to use death and fire from kain because it nets the most crit dmg increase.

 

Nsxt update, when the normal attack dmg formula is changed, we will need to retest how p atk crit dmg scales. But for now, they are the same.

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On 1/2/2022 at 4:47 AM, iHyperlite said:

 

P skill crit dmg = p atk crit dmg in how they increase your dmg on target. 

 

It's better to use death and fire from kain because it nets the most crit dmg increase.

 

Nsxt update, when the normal attack dmg formula is changed, we will need to retest how p atk crit dmg scales. But for now, they are the same.

I was  thinking that dagger works like  this:

P. Critical dmg. Adds to  + P.Skill (  p.criti. dmg increases p.skil dmg)

P.Skill  = x dmg

P.Skill critical dmg = 2x ore 3x dmg..

There for we have P.Skill critical rate for the  2x ore 3x dmg

So I invested also in P.Skill critical rate

Is it work like this ? 

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13 minutes ago, Mitzza said:

I was  thinking that dagger works like  this:

P. Critical dmg. Adds to  + P.Skill (  p.criti. dmg increases p.skil dmg)

P.Skill  = x dmg

P.Skill critical dmg = 2x ore 3x dmg..

There for we have P.Skill critical rate for the  2x ore 3x dmg

So I invested also in P.Skill critical rate

Is it work like this ? 

All stabs crit, it's a unique feature in how blows work. Skill crit rate doesn't help

 

This is the formula data mined by russians:

Blows:
Damage = 77 * ((pAtk * lvlMod + power ) * 0,666 * SS * SS_bonus * weapon_random * cdBonus * cdResist * cdPosition + cdStatic + damage_bonus) / (sDef + pDef) * weaponTrait * attBonus * PvPBonus * PvEBonus * powerBonus * skillCritBonus * damageResist
wherein :
staticBonus = (cdStatic + cdStaticResist + cdStaticPosition) * 6
damage_bonus = (pAtk * SS * SS_bonus * lvlMod + power) * 0.666 * weapon_random * isPosition

 

 

 

As to what the skillCritBonus is I need to read through the source which is in Russian and that is time consuming, but I don't think it is skill crit rate as we are thinking. 

After the xp event, I can test this specifically on my dagger with artifacts. 

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1 hour ago, iHyperlite said:

All stabs crit, it's a unique feature in how blows work. Skill crit rate doesn't help

 

This is the formula data mined by russians:

Blows:
Damage = 77 * ((pAtk * lvlMod + power ) * 0,666 * SS * SS_bonus * weapon_random * cdBonus * cdResist * cdPosition + cdStatic + damage_bonus) / (sDef + pDef) * weaponTrait * attBonus * PvPBonus * PvEBonus * powerBonus * skillCritBonus * damageResist
wherein :
staticBonus = (cdStatic + cdStaticResist + cdStaticPosition) * 6
damage_bonus = (pAtk * SS * SS_bonus * lvlMod + power) * 0.666 * weapon_random * isPosition

 

 

 

As to what the skillCritBonus is I need to read through the source which is in Russian and that is time consuming, but I don't think it is skill crit rate as we are thinking. 

After the xp event, I can test this specifically on my dagger with artifacts. 

Ok, ty this helps me from wasting money on P.Skill critical rate.

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On 1/4/2022 at 3:22 PM, iHyperlite said:

All stabs crit, it's a unique feature in how blows work. Skill crit rate doesn't help

 

This is the formula data mined by russians:

Blows:
Damage = 77 * ((pAtk * lvlMod + power ) * 0,666 * SS * SS_bonus * weapon_random * cdBonus * cdResist * cdPosition + cdStatic + damage_bonus) / (sDef + pDef) * weaponTrait * attBonus * PvPBonus * PvEBonus * powerBonus * skillCritBonus * damageResist
wherein :
staticBonus = (cdStatic + cdStaticResist + cdStaticPosition) * 6
damage_bonus = (pAtk * SS * SS_bonus * lvlMod + power) * 0.666 * weapon_random * isPosition

 

 

 

As to what the skillCritBonus is I need to read through the source which is in Russian and that is time consuming, but I don't think it is skill crit rate as we are thinking. 

After the xp event, I can test this specifically on my dagger with artifacts. 

Hi, did you have time to test if skill crit rate helps? 

Ty

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18 minutes ago, iHyperlite said:

I didn't yet. Ive been enchanting :D

I will try to do a quick test today. 

Ok ty  , no problem, I have changed my crit. Rate to crit. Dmg.

Good luck on enchanting +24! , I tried but I did  not get to far so I changed strategy and started to sell the enchants, I will try  again  on the next event.

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