iAndouille Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 @Wissp @Hermes @Hime Maybe Atleast learn from you'r last year misstake, Where all items price had to be reworked because Literally everything was Too expensive compared to actual price ingame of items???? This year its even worse, Every item, is Double the price from the ingame price already, ITs totally awful to give us an event like that on a update day. Shame on all our Gm's for this. This post has 7 Freaking pages of answer and 10k views, but yet u guys didnt learn the lessons: https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/24521-night-market-chest This is a massive Shame for all NcWest staff. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangepeel Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Seriously NCsoft? Why is there such a disconnect with the players? Just kill the server, and please ut me out of my misery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankznbeanz Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 @Wissp @Hermes i realize yall got thrown into the lions den with t bones tied around your necks. BUT, yall been here long enough to know what the community has been begging for. ive yet to see anything impressive from you guys besides the sayha/shillen event. ive spent 20$ on this game in the last 3 months because the "store events" have had NOTHING in it for the majority of the server. why arent level 5 gems in every store promo? i can ask a million more question BUT why is this night market event even 5x worse then the last one? are you guys not allowed to tell us whats going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PugofCrydee Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 @Wissp You said you looked at the forums, you said you were a good communicator, you said we would see slow changes. None of this has happened and to what @Andouille said these prices are just insane. Start understanding the game this is just more garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufferinho Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 @Wissp, Is this seriously what you understand under communication? Community tells you to decrease event prices, you do the opposite! This year is even more expensive than last year! Please shut down the servers, because this is a joke towards your community..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi96 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, iAndouille said: @Wissp Bro i clearly want an answer on this post. Tell us who's the one who make the price, because he must be really drunk, Disconnected from Reality, you guys won't make any money with these horrible price. Don't dare to ignore us like all the rest of GM's , just like @Hermes who's not posting anything on forum since a while and same for @Hime they give 0 Answers to the community, and you want us to spend money on your game? Hime left us a long time ago, and his last words of wisdom was beware of scams. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxySiny Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 @Hermes I do not know how to react to the Night Market Coin event... You guys are out of your mind to request such pricing from your player base who actually allows you folks to get a salary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickballerina Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Shutdown your servers! This pricing has to stop.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L2 Team Wissp Posted October 19, 2022 L2 Team Share Posted October 19, 2022 Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I will make sure your concerns regarding the pricing in the Night Market promotion are passed along to the appropriate individuals. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CataPvE Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 I dont know man,its like a bad dream, always same 3 items on rewards,we asked splendor fragment we got 1x + other 70 rewards,we need 3-4-5k for a click,how to make that if we dont have + the dragon accesories always on reward,comon..wtf + PI scrolls after a x2 event, its like wow. Than u add orfen soul earring ? as mid-top reward ?WTF lol and beleth ring? u crazy? and u make top 4 rewards a +20 limited weapon... and u also added a navari mask on reward and than let's talk about items u can buy with market coins, forgotten ? i mean u can buy directly from l2 store artifact fragment u can buy from l2 store, artifact crystal same + u made them more expensive then if u buy from l2 store,what's the point ? lol and most of the items we dont even need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerenaAnne Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 @Wissp Please do something about the marketing of prices. Events get being more and more and more expensive and we get less and less items from the events. I understand that the company needs to feed its co-workers, but we are not idiots who only get milked for crappy rewards on the events. Try and speak with the right people making decisions, because the situation keep getting worse for now 4 years. Login into Naia, the server is empty almost due to the marketing decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PugofCrydee Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Wissp said: Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I will make sure your concerns regarding the pricing in the Night Market promotion are passed along to the appropriate individuals. Also why are there Shining Sayha Energy and Shining Gem Stone but the Energy of Protection Enchant for Advanced Talisman of Protection is NEVER an option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CataPvE Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 why did u put 54 rewards in one event and really 80% of them are without a point . Why u removed from drop list the briliant roses and storms ? what they did wrong ? lol Why PI Scrolls ? Why just 1x splendor fragments ? why orfen earring and beleth? last boxes with them we had in like 2017,they are literally 0 why navari? why forgotten,gems are so expensive ? and why so many items as rewards/can be buyed with nm coins so useless ? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAndouille Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, Wissp said: Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I will make sure your concerns regarding the pricing in the Night Market promotion are passed along to the appropriate individuals. that was Fast. make sure to show them this post also. so they can take notes. because last 3-4 promos were totally Awful in pricing and rewards, a real slap in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankznbeanz Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 lets see what they change with nmc event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHyperlite Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 This might market coin is a joke. Another instance of Ncsoft being completely disconnected from our region/market/playerbase/wants/needs/desires/state of game. Sigh... It's like you guys enjoy shitting in our cheerios or something, I just don't get it. You are in the business of making money on events, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merloerick12 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 I’m just sick of expensive event this community can’t afford this game any more …..last 3 event was just slap in the face … ty you will not get anything more from me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magistralis Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 If you guys wants to milk more money from the players, put the paywall more ahead, let them start to enjoy the game and have the feeling to apend, the paywall affect the lowbies right in the first days. Lowbies can do nothing with the free stuffs and even with the blessed exalted (wich is paid and shouldn't), they can't do much. Lower the price of enchant exalted stuffs scroll, we need more player base but you are lowering it every new promo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galador Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 @Wissp While I appreciate that the team is taking the time to communicate with the player base, and that attempts are being made to adjust some prices in the Night Market Coin event, I can't help but wonder what metrics you are using to determine pricing in the game. Let's do a little math and make some real world comparisons based on what we find out. At current pricing, Ncoin costs $100US for 8,000. That means 200 night coins cost $9US. If you apply that to a Shining Gran Kain Weapon Enchant Scroll, that translates to $31.50US for each scroll. Let's apply that to a reasonable scenario. There are an abundance of +20 R110 Limited weapons on the server due to the +20 limit on the normal Gran Kain scrolls. So if I want to go above +20, I get to pay $31.50US for "a chance" to increase the level of the weapon by +1. With the current enchant system, that means that realistically it takes 10 attempts for each +1, or $315US. And if my goal is a +30 weapon, I will have to spend $3,150US for a reasonable chance to achieve that. For conversation purposes, I can imagine that there isn't one employee on your team that would pay $3,150US for an opportunity to get a +30 weapon in a game like Lineage 2. You'd have better odds in Vegas. Which is my point to pass along to you and your teammates. The L2 Community is complaining because the pricing is insane. It is clearly not affordable for the vast majority of the community. And given the continuing evolution of the game, i.e., better AI and increased elements on mobs, etc., having a +30 weapon is only one small piece of what's required for a player to enjoy the game over level 110. I wrote about that in my open letter last week. I cannot speak for everyone in the game. However, I consider myself to be a thoughtful and reasonable person. What the L2 Community is asking of you is to also be that same person. I gave you one example. Times that by every item and skill in the game. The aggregate cost to play is currently off the charts. Which is why the community is so unhappy. I'd like for you to communicate how you are making needed changes a reality for us. On a final note ... we ARE in a recession which will drive more frustration. Thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin33 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 thing: sadness.... this company dont listen u players, we dont see a passion to understand and make a great things for all players .. im so sad, exausted to try change this with a forum posts, emails and other things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin33 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 The impression is, they dont listen us, dont changes and not improvements for life quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R0Y4L Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Event chest that will cost 2b+ ingame to get a bunch of crap items. Night market trade items...all overpriced comparing with ingame items price. 40 night market coins for 1 gem energy is 2.5b+ for one single gem energy, that is already overpriced ingame, this item must cost max 200m. Just more one event without items we need like Authority Ornament and basic items like brilliant rose, deton, valiant at a good price. Congratulations for another event that just few crazy ppl will buy something. Suggestion: please, hire that "GM DIL" from EU/Innova server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDan Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 4 hours ago, iHyperlite said: This might market coin is a joke. Another instance of Ncsoft being completely disconnected from our region/market/playerbase/wants/needs/desires/state of game. Sigh... It's like you guys enjoy shitting in our cheerios or something, I just don't get it. You are in the business of making money on events, right? nothing good for us from last nm coin event, they don't care...was the same on last nm coin event they just bla bla bla ..in rest they don't give a ... on our reply.... this is bad and bad..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshesOfAden Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Prices and rewards are even more insane this year.. with less decent rewards I doubt that @Wissp and @Hermes will do same favour to players like @Juji did.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KazAnakiuS Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 These are the adena prices, calculated with a 45m per NM Coin estimated price: NAME DESCRIPTION NM PRICE ADENA PRICE Night Market Treasure Chest Use to obtain a Shining Einhasad’s Historical Tome and a random item. 30 1 350 000 000 Artifact Book Augment Stone A rare mineral stone that is made from a stone inside a monster, solidified by shock from physical and magic strikes and dimensional abnormality. Can be used to augment High-grade-Grade Artifact Books and Top-grade-Grade Artifact Books. Go to the Blacksmith NPC or double-click to augment. 68 3 060 000 000 Energy of Protection Combine with a Talisman of Protection to upgrade. Can upgrade Talisman of Protection Stage 1 - Stage 9. If it fails, the Talisman of Protection won’t be destroyed, but its level may drop and the Energy of Protection will disappear. 10 450 000 000 Sayha's Energy Combine with Sayha's Talisman Stage 7 or lower to upgrade. If it fails, Sayha's Talisman will not be destroyed. Only Sayha's Energy will be consumed. 83 3 735 000 000 Shining Sayha's Energy Compound with a Greater Sayha's Talisman to upgrade. If it fails, the Sayha's Talisman won’t be destroyed, and only the Shining Sayha's Energy will disappear. 560 25 200 000 000 Gem Energy Combine it with a Gem to increase the Gem's power. It can be used with any Gem. The Gem’s enchant level is reset if the combination fails. 40 1 800 000 000 Shiny Gem Energy Compound it with a Top-grade-Grade to increase the Gem's power. It can be used on any Top-grade-Grade Lv. 5 Gems. The Gem's enchant level remains even if compounding fails. 800 36 000 000 000 Dye Crystal Buy new dyes or combine new dyes through the Dye Merchant. 12 540 000 000 Artifact Fragment Material to craft Artifacts. Can craft Artifact - Received Damage Reduction When Immobilized, Artifact - P. Skill Power, Artifact - M. Skill Power through Alexandria in Giran Town Luxury Shop. 15 675 000 000 Accessory Augment Stone A rare mineral stone that is made from a stone inside a monster, solidified by shock from physical and magic strikes and dimensional abnormality. Can be used to augment accessories. Go to the Blacksmith NPC or double-click to augment. 20 900 000 000 Blessed Exalted Weapon Enchant Scroll Scroll to enchant Blessed Exalted Weapon. Enchant never fails and cannot be used on weapons +12 or higher. 50 2 250 000 000 Blessed Exalted Armor Enchant Scroll Scroll to enchant Blessed Exalted Armor. Enchant never fails and cannot be used on +10 or higher armor. 20 900 000 000 Forgotten Spellbook Chapter 1 A spellbook required to learn Forgotten Power Levels 6 to 10. You can exchange it for Forgotten Spellbook Chapter 2 or Forgotten Spellbook Chapter 3 through Crafting. 33 1 485 000 000 Forgotten Spellbook Chapter 2 A spellbook required to learn Forgotten Power Levels 11 to 20. 100 4 500 000 000 Forgotten Spellbook Chapter 3 A spellbook required to learn Forgotten Power Levels 21 to 30. 150 6 750 000 000 Gale Scroll x2 A scroll to level up as fast as the wind. Hunting XP and SP gain +200%. Remains active after death. Duration 10 min. Cooldown 9 min. Only for characters below Lv. 108. Cannot be stacked with Freya’s Wind Scroll or Freya’s Storm Scroll. 1 45 000 000 Raging Billow Scroll x2 A scroll to hunt with the force of a raging billow. When used, attack attribute +100, all defense attributes +100, and Hunting XP/SP +100% for 30 min. Buffs persist after death. Cooldown 5 min. Only for characters below Lv. 108. Cannot be used in the Olympiad. Cannot be stacked with Dragon's Elemental Potion or Glowing Dragon's Attribute Potion. 1 45 000 000 Mask Augment Stone A rare mineral stone that is made from a stone inside a monster. Can be used to augment Veteran's Mask and Queen Navari Mask 1 45 000 000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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