lBvlgari Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 You can run but you cant hide hahaha!! @Wissp @Hermes !!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArrowDumpster Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 LOL.. they deleted so many posts, my comments went from the third page to the first page.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharlanna Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 47 minutes ago, ArrowDumpster said: LOL.. they deleted so many posts, my comments went from the third page to the first page.. Utterly disgusting. So much for freedom of speech! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnightmaresDream Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Yup, this is comical. NOTHING I said violated any terms or conditions and all my legit comments are removed. Your service to the customer base is appalling. We aren't that hard to appease and seems like you are hellbent on screwing every single last player that is wanting just a little bit more than forever grind with 0 incentive to continue. This event is the worst. Its deceptive practices reveal a great deal about the integrity of NCSoft West. Which is very disappointing. I played this thing forever and finally got convinced to come back and have been wondering when things get better. It appears nothing will ever change. In for the money, out for the quick buck. As someone else posted and only seems VERY fitting considering the fraudulent activity on this event: https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/resources/consumer-review-fairness-act-what-businesses-need-know The Consumer Review Fairness Act (CRFA) protects people’s ability to share their honest opinions about a business’s products, services, or conduct, in any forum, including social media. Is your company complying? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotten Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 I don't recall a single player asking for a free item, only affordable and reasonable rates to make playing for all fun. To bring back pvp by allowing players to gear up. Really they would make bank if they did that.. now it seems they are going to have other problems from what im reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joebob Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 22 hours ago, Joebob said: Even if the list had all stage 3 god jewels, stage 3 DW and lvl 10 wings, it wouldn't matter because no one is pulling those big ticket items from loot boxes. If you are expecting to get those items from a loot box to make it worth it then you are truly gambling the lottery and dreaming of a fantasy world where everyone wins the lottery. Looking at it from a statistical value, we know the rates to get these items are incredibly like. Like 0.0000001% chance low. A 5T adena item with a 0.0000001% chance statistically increases the average value of a loot box by 5,000 adena. So why do you care what the big ticket items are? They are only there as click bait items. Just like the jackpot items on a slot machine. So, loot boxes have value from the average of the items that you get. I don't usually pay for loot box events because I can't calculate the value of opening a box, but, the one event where I opened 700 boxes, the total value of the items I got was 55% over the going adena/ncoin rate. That event was profitable for me and I only pulled one item worth more than 8b adena and it was only worth 34b adena. I received lots of crap consumables and no big ticket items. Most of the value came from the items in the middle. Is this anecdotal evidence? Yes, but I haven't seen anyone provide any evidence to the contrary. I see so many people complain "all I get is worthless consumables!" but that's an blatant exaggeration. Yes, everyone gets a lot of consumables because the chance to get them is high, but people need to actually post all of what they're getting, calculate the total value of all items received, divide that value by the total NCoin spent and post it to the forum to prove to NCSoft that we're getting screwed. I don't recall ever seeing this happen. If we had a mega thread where people posted what they got and calculated the total value divided by NCoin spent, that would give power to sway events in the right direction. I'm sure NCSoft is just ignoring all the complaints at this point because it's the same complaints every event. This loot box event is probably even better than the average loot box event. There are brand new GK heaven/epic talisman enchants, dragon claws, advanced stable +16 to 18 scrolls, DW augment stones. All highly sought after and will sell easily. If we got the cookies as a bonus like we originally thought, I stand by my post. They would have just been a bonus to opening loot boxes. However, we don't get bonus cookies and they're not tradeable so you need to open a ton of boxes just to get a single 5% chance craft. Otherwise you just get some overpriced mediocre pots. It's just sad and depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McByczek Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 At the same time. https://eu.4game.com/en/webshop/l2-eu/31/ I ask myself and pee on naia. I always said this server was a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nac Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 CHAT GTP Response to current model. If an online game continues to increase the cost of events and lower the chance of obtaining good items, despite complaints from the community, it could lead to player frustration and loss of trust in the game's creators. Some players may choose to quit the game, while others may continue playing but reduce the amount of money they spend. If the complaints continue and the community continues to shrink, the game's popularity and revenue may decline. This could lead to a vicious cycle of even higher costs and lower chances, which could ultimately result in the game's failure. It is important for game creators to listen to their player community and make changes that both increase revenue and maintain player satisfaction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman51 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 so IA smarter than ncsoft ? even elpy are lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serhius Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Do you guys like the L2 game, or the casino? If it's a game, then play and don't buy chests. If the casino, then continue to cry on the forum, or leave the game. Everything is simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serhius Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 This drop rates for boxes/chests are horrible, price for each box/chest is too hight, that why i have stopped to buy chests/boxes several months ago. All you wrote here is nothing while players continue to pay every promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmenOfSteel_Naia Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 18 hours ago, MacAulish said: I opened 110 boxes and got 7 cookies. If you and everyone else would simply stop opening boxes, we will see a change. Dont spend RL Cash, dont buy NCoins with Adena. Either NCW will fire Hermes + Wissp to get better employees or they'll just shut down L2 if revenue drops too much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB12 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Serhius said: Do you guys like the L2 game, or the casino? If it's a game, then play and don't buy chests. If the casino, then continue to cry on the forum, or leave the game. Everything is simple. Items can not be obtained by playing, here's a problem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman51 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 i made a ticket about it, they give me back the 22 cookies i should have because i bought 22 box BEFORE THEY CHANGED TEXT LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitzza Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 50 minutes ago, Batman51 said: i made a ticket about it, they give me back the 22 cookies i should have because i bought 22 box BEFORE THEY CHANGED TEXT LOL It seems to me they do more work this way, if they would just work smart make a good promo sales get some money people get some items, everyone would be happy and then just go to next event, they fail one event then work more to fix it, and after that they fail the next event and again work to fix and so on, this is nothing but incompetence at its finest. Are they the same people that make Liberty throne? That game will be a fiasco, no one will play it if this is their working model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnightmaresDream Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 7 hours ago, Joebob said: If we got the cookies as a bonus like we originally thought, I stand by my post. They would have just been a bonus to opening loot boxes. However, we don't get bonus cookies and they're not tradeable so you need to open a ton of boxes just to get a single 5% chance craft. Otherwise you just get some overpriced mediocre pots. It's just sad and depressing. I dont believe this organization would allow to show the fake rates that would be revealed that their "events" arent rigged. There is no accountability and despite the player base screaming for them to do ANYTHING, they keep on chugging right along with the nonsense. I personally would have liked to support this event but now, watching the bait and switch in real time, no way. Nope, not playing the nonsense. I am looking to attempt to get any gear to get to the next stage but at this rate I will reach my level goal and once my sub meets that same goal, I may just be walking away from the game again. I am not the only one that I have talked to that is also doing this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnightmaresDream Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 15 minutes ago, Mitzza said: It seems to me they do more work this way, if they would just work smart make a good promo sales get some money people get some items, everyone would be happy and then just go to next event, they fail one event then work more to fix it, and after that they fail the next event and again work to fix and so on, this is nothing but incompetence at its finest. Are they the same people that make Liberty throne? That game will be a fiasco, no one will play it if this is their working model. They are indeed going to be doing Liberty Throne and once I found out about that, I am 0 interested in that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voo Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 @Hermes you doing OK? I haven't seen this much anger in this game about you or anyone else ever. Did you get hired or promoted to purposely destroy the game? Any messages for us? Just put us all out of our misery and tell us game shutting down...it can be worded on a resume with a positive spin for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotten Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 55 minutes ago, AnightmaresDream said: I dont believe this organization would allow to show the fake rates that would be revealed that their "events" arent rigged. There is no accountability and despite the player base screaming for them to do ANYTHING, they keep on chugging right along with the nonsense. I personally would have liked to support this event but now, watching the bait and switch in real time, no way. Nope, not playing the nonsense. I am looking to attempt to get any gear to get to the next stage but at this rate I will reach my level goal and once my sub meets that same goal, I may just be walking away from the game again. I am not the only one that I have talked to that is also doing this. 46 minutes ago, voo said: @Hermes you doing OK? I haven't seen this much anger in this game about you or anyone else ever. Did you get hired or promoted to purposely destroy the game? Any messages for us? Just put us all out of our misery and tell us game shutting down...it can be worded on a resume with a positive spin for sure. Slayer was bait and switch as well, last years promo no rates were posted, and was a wild success where people advanced their characters, this year rates were posted, some people assumed it was the same, but with a double price slayer. Many pre bought a LOT of Ncoin, only to find out it was a HUGE nerfed product. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanchito Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, Rotten said: Many pre bought a LOT of Ncoin, only to find out it was a HUGE nerfed product. that's why you continually get these crap events you guys always whining about on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grunn050 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 and after reset i am missing 9 points of luck?????? i dont even know how much i am missing of the rest, after coming back after 10 years you guys still ripping ppl off?? it seems like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharlanna Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 minute ago, grunn050 said: and after reset i am missing 9 points of luck?????? i dont even know how much i am missing of the rest, after coming back after 10 years you guys still ripping ppl off?? it seems like it It's 10x worse and that's an understatement. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grunn050 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Sharlanna said: It's 10x worse and that's an understatement. yeah i follow this here on foot, its a big mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshesOfAden Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 5 hours ago, AnightmaresDream said: They are indeed going to be doing Liberty Throne and once I found out about that, I am 0 interested in that game. I hope NCKorea will be smart and wont let them two and NCwest run new game.. they will bankrupt... Fingers crossed Amazon will be a publisher as they rumoured.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshesOfAden Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 5 hours ago, voo said: @Hermes you doing OK? I haven't seen this much anger in this game about you or anyone else ever. Did you get hired or promoted to purposely destroy the game? Any messages for us? Just put us all out of our misery and tell us game shutting down...it can be worded on a resume with a positive spin for sure. Well I think we will remember Hermes and Wissp as guys who killed 19y/o game, Sad but everything ends... everything... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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