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With NA Classic now officially confirmed. It is pretty clear that all top factors from all servers will be starting on the NA Classic server at launch. Many most likely will only stick around for the first 6 to 12 months, but those first few months are going to be intense. For the first time since Lionna, Erica, and Devianne server transfers were allowed to Bartz (where we saw LEaD/Nova/Enmity/TD all fight each other), we are going to be seeing a true convergence of Lineage 2 power clans. The next logical question is simple... Who will come out on top?

We have top North American clans MS and Nova backed up with their high credit score and thicc wallets and then we have top Russian clans RoA and RMT who consider anything less than 16 hours a day as "casual". North American clans who historically have been enemies, may have to band together to fight these newcomers. This is an exciting time for Lineage 2. What's everyone's thoughts?

 

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I think ppl here on NcWest have low interest in Clasic. regarding NcStaff .....I remember 2y ago JuJi promise a pts...we are still waiting :).
Even they open a classic it will be with same company politic...very slow progress, no drop, all good items in Ncstore to gamble.
The new classic will have the same fate as Zaken...
See, nothing exciting here...

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I would be the first to play L2 Classic.  Although it's about old players coming back, not about current clans going over to classic.  Some people hated goddess of destruction so much they quit.  Current players in big clans wont go to classic because of the time surrounding the grind.  ( If the bot issue is fixed...  HAHAHA ) You're looking at many South Americans and Canadas playing.  Onto the blocked countries, those countries already are playing with something to hide their IPs. 

Another thing is what Classic would we get??  First form of Classic is awesome but starting at a later update would make the server to fast growing and the pvp boring.  Yes, the best part of classic server is the pvp.  As everyone is forced into very few areas to xp, Random PVP breaks out and PK fests happen all the time.  This is all hanging on the version of classic NC West would receive. 

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40 minutes ago, SpeedStick said:

Onto the blocked countries, those countries already are playing with something to hide their IPs. 

But only those who played before. New players don't wanna start ONLY because their country in black list.

EU/NA people don't like to spend 15-20h/day on grind, look at Skelth :)

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If ncwest has no interest in having a classic server, we just migrate to European classic .... download the HOLA VPN in your browser and download the European server !!! 

at that moment there are more than 4 thousand players online!!!!!!!

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3 minutes ago, dUdot said:

http://l2on.net/

usually on Skelth +-1k

Classic will be F2P most likely. There are going to be a million and one private server noobs on start.

 

As a side note, this is really the last chance Nova and MS would have to be relevant again in the main western Lineage 2 crowd. They were no-shows on Skelth (Nova tried briefly but couldn't handle the pvp), they were no-shows on new Blah. It would make logical sense for both of those clans to atleast try to get back into the major leagues of L2.

 

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Two separate GMs have confirmed it. Here is one.

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And yes I realize they are currently on Chronos, but what is stopping them from competing on a more competitive server for a few months or a year? They always have geared to the max characters on Chronos to return to if they get their asses handed to them.

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you're barking up the wrong tree as none of the currently active Nova will go there..

if anything people are waiting for the dedicated PVP Bloody servers that are coming, Korea has them running and Innova confirmed they will release them as well the moment the files etc. translations are done

4r4m posted a little bit about the Bloody servers on his website and obviously a lot more details are known at Korean L2 website

https://4r4m.com/bloody-server-l2/

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I don't follow happenings at Innova that closely, but NCKorea is devoting a considerable amount of energy to their Bloody server. Just look at the number of events in the last month (they are tagged [블러디]/[Bloody] ):
http://lineage2.plaync.com/board/notice/list

Under the same tag you will find the Bloody patch notes here:
http://lineage2.plaync.com/board/update/list

And here are the Inven.co.kr news about Bloody:
http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?sw=블러디&site=lineage2&searchwhere=subjectcategory

It's hard to say whether this is just propaganda or whether the fixed-price item-of-your-choice business model really brings in money, but when you look at the screenshots, the PvP server seems to be quite popular:
http://lineage2.plaync.com/board/image/list

Here you can get an impression from their recent Orc Raid event:

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http://lineage2.plaync.com/board/image/view?articleId=636204

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No, Bloody is separate, there are no server transfers. Everybody you see on the screenshot was starting from zero on July 30, when Bloody was opened to the public. The equipment was all purchased with real money or Mammon Keys, a kind of substitute currency, from the Bloody-specific L2Store. Like for example For 79,000 Won (around 80 US dollars) you get a package with a good weapon, armor, jewelry and enchantment scrolls,  and with Mammon Keys you can for example buy a ready-made lvl 5 Brooch Jewel of your choice for 20,000 Won aka 20 dollars:
http://lineage2.plaync.com/events/2018/180711_fafurion/bloody (Korean)
https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/2379-lineage-ii-august-preview/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-17776 (English)

Simply put, for a moderate contribution NCsoft provides you with all the equipment you need. Consider: how much does it cost on a regular server to make a lvl 5 Jewel?

 

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1 hour ago, Yidao said:

No, Bloody is separate, there are no server transfers. Everybody you see on the screenshot was starting from zero on July 30, when Bloody was opened to the public. The equipment was all purchased with real money or Mammon Keys, a kind of substitute currency, from the Bloody-specific L2Store. Like for example For 79,000 Won (around 80 US dollars) you get a package with a good weapon, armor, jewelry and enchantment scrolls,  and with Mammon Keys you can for example buy a ready-made lvl 5 Brooch Jewel of your choice for 20,000 Won aka 20 dollars:
http://lineage2.plaync.com/events/2018/180711_fafurion/bloody (Korean)
https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/2379-lineage-ii-august-preview/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-17776 (English)

Simply put, for a moderate contribution NCsoft provides you with all the equipment you need. Consider: how much does it cost on a regular server to make a lvl 5 Jewel?

 

It almost sounds like they modeled it after most private servers, being that you can choose to either pay real money for gear or trade in game currency for it. Not necessarily a bad thing but the big downside to it you always see is people spend the money and get bored due to lack or progression. I wonder if that will be the case here?

Personally I'll come back to play classic when it releases. I've never cared too much for GoD although I had my share of fun early on. I mainly hate that as the game sits now you can only participate in events by buying items from the L2store(from what I've seen). Event items from farming seem non-existent. I can't see them running classic like that as well.

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23 hours ago, Gabe said:

With NA Classic now officially confirmed. It is pretty clear that all top factors from all servers will be starting on the NA Classic server at launch. Many most likely will only stick around for the first 6 to 12 months, but those first few months are going to be intense. For the first time since Lionna, Erica, and Devianne server transfers were allowed to Bartz (where we saw LEaD/Nova/Enmity/TD all fight each other), we are going to be seeing a true convergence of Lineage 2 power clans. The next logical question is simple... Who will come out on top?

We have top North American clans MS and Nova backed up with their high credit score and thicc wallets and then we have top Russian clans RoA and RMT who consider anything less than 16 hours a day as "casual". North American clans who historically have been enemies, may have to band together to fight these newcomers. This is an exciting time for Lineage 2. What's everyone's thoughts?

 

This drama post brought to by the official replacement of L2Blah

Who cares about any of those servers? The only clan that ever mattered in this game is EA from gustin. 

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13 hours ago, Mach5 said:

It almost sounds like they modeled it after most private servers, being that you can choose to either pay real money for gear or trade in game currency for it. Not necessarily a bad thing but the big downside to it you always see is people spend the money and get bored due to lack or progression. I wonder if that will be the case here?

My first reaction was also "That's like a private server!". But what you must keep in mind is that Bloody is basically the same game as the regular version of Lineage 2. While it has different rules (Clan only up to lvl 5, no exp loss upon death ...), the map is the same as on the regular servers, i.e. in Korea they have Fafurion's Temple and above all, R110 equipment:

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http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/파푸리온의+신전
https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/2334-r110-grade-new-gear-on-korea-server/?tab=comments#comment-17313

The equipment you can purchase from NCsoft is what we currently have at NCWest, i.e. it will carry you to the Enchanted Valley and the Sea of Spores. Then the real game, the struggle for progression starts. You could say that Fafurion's Temple is the new Hellbound, Leviathan/Krishna is the new Dynasty equipment.

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I think a bloody or Arena server could be lots of fun, but that doesn't detract away from how excellent of a ruleset Classic is. Also for sake of moderation, Bloody and Arena server ruleset discussions probably belong in the future updates section

 

Back on topic, hopefully we hear something soon. Maybe @Juji @Himeor @Conguero

Can fill us in. Or maybe give us a ballpark date for when they will announce more info.

 

P.S. I've already got some confirmation that some old school Bartz players will be coming out of retirement for this NA classic server.

 

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On 9/7/2018 at 5:51 AM, dUdot said:

https://support.lineage2.com/hc/en-us/articles/217017506-Blocked-Countries

Main reason why RMT/RoA won't be here

Second reason is l2store.... 

Avotinsh and Comedy told me they are coming if NA launches classic. I presume most of them will jump here to make $$$$$, since no one will be able to compete against them

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On 9/10/2018 at 12:25 PM, Gabe said:

I think a bloody or Arena server could be lots of fun, but that doesn't detract away from how excellent of a ruleset Classic is. Also for sake of moderation, Bloody and Arena server ruleset discussions probably belong in the future updates section

 

Back on topic, hopefully we hear something soon. Maybe @Juji @Himeor @Conguero

Can fill us in. Or maybe give us a ballpark date for when they will announce more info.

 

P.S. I've already got some confirmation that some old school Bartz players will be coming out of retirement for this NA classic server.

 

We will have more information in the coming weeks. We're still finalizing a few things. Woo!

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6 hours ago, Hime said:

We will have more information in the coming weeks. We're still finalizing a few things. Woo!

How would something like a bloody server effect current server populations on the current Chronos/Naia. If it is possible to buy end game gear cheaper as Yidao suggested how many would stay on the already dwindling current servers ?

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