GrumpyMuppet Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 As the title says. It isnt a debate, or a discussion. It is what it is. The server didnt even started yet and the forum is already flooded with threads like "can someone tell me if i can buy from the start vip 4, have the fruit buff and the scrolls buffs and the prestige pack runes all of them active at the same time?" "can someone tell me how much money do i need to spend to buy every item in the store?"or dumb questions like those. Im not going to donate, hence i dont expect to even be among a competition to see who reach max lvl or the best equip first, etc etc etc. If you wanna compete and dont have the money, dont create a thread asking them to dont give so much stuff with money, its childish to think a dev will read your thread and say "hey, this player is right, we shouldnt give so many advantage to donators, we will tone it down so everyone can have the same opportunities". Like i said, dont be childish. If you dont like it, dont play it. Easy like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zho Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, GrumpyMuppet said: If you dont like it, dont play it. Easy like that. much more worried about PING than danators they will die too GL @GrumpyMuppet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricaIsDown Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Its not p2w though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daishinta Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 What a salty, and stupid post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poultrygeist Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 My version of P2W must be much different then the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FantasMic Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 It is what it is, and it's true. Everytime you come to the forums to see if there's a release of the first patch notes you see these flood of childish posts requesting nonsense stuff, like if mods would care. If you ever played an NCSoft game, you know how things are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyMuppet Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, EricaIsDown said: Its not p2w though. keep telling yourself that buddy lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricaIsDown Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Poultrygeist said: My version of P2W must be much different then the OP. No kidding. I've seen p2w and this isn't it. People just like to complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesSunderland Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 No Brooch, No Autistic Cloacks, No Mysterious Blessed Soulshots or B+, No EXP bonus Scrolls, IMO atm there is no true P2W BS, maybe in the future they will get some KR p2w cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoRo Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Frankly some xp buffs make little to no difference. No lifers that will push hard to lvl and dominate the server, as usual will be 2 major sides, average Joe will really not make a difference if there is xp buff or not. Not to mention control over epics etc. Sooner or later you will hit the lvl cap, it will be epics and ++items that make the difference at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yati Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 P2W = Play2Win or Pay2Win ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricaIsDown Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Every game with a subscription is p2w! You can't even play without paying!! Those who do win over you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aghast Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 yeah this is definitely not p2w, but there will always be "that guy" that always complains about everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluephies Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, JamesSunderland said: ... Autistic... cancer. I'm sick of this stuff for sure. Autistic and cancer are the news R-words? Grow up and add some better words to your vocabulary, Like imba cloacks (sic) and p2w trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesSunderland Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bluephies said: I'm sick of this stuff for sure. Autistic and cancer are the news R-words? Grow up and add some better words to your vocabulary, Like imba cloacks (sic) and p2w trash. Your nostalgic buzzwords are meaningless and doesn't chance even slightly the meaning of what i just said. whats your point? Annoyed by words? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomulusKillian Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 just look for a few minutes of fame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluephies Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, JamesSunderland said: Your nostalgic buzzwords are meaningless and doesn't chance even slightly the meaning of what i just said. whats your point? Annoyed by words? I'm annoyed by your statement making no sense. It's a complete lack of trying. It's autistic cancer with a touch of atypical somatization disorder and althete's foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZygiA Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 If 50% or whatever more exp (which you can acquire in game anyway) and 10% more damage in PVE is P2W then okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesSunderland Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, Bluephies said: I'm annoyed by your statement making no sense. It's a complete lack of trying. It's autistic cancer with a touch of atypical somatization disorder and althete's foot. Oh did i annoyed you mister Vocabularic God? What a pity! Seems you wasn't able to understand something this simple, next time i will make sure to dumb it down as you please. Still wasn't able to find your point tho. Probably would be a better idea to show your point about the thread itself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnz Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 If it's not P2W now at the start(which I believe it is), it will be eventually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoNoles69 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I wouldnt say its Pay2Win.. I would say more Pay4Convenience. This game is directed to the hardcore gamer, not the casual gamer. And generally if your a casual gamer its due to the fact that you have a full-time job, family, gf/wife or all 3. So with the server being FREE TO PLAY, meaning there is no subscription, you have to look at the VIP Status as a Subscription. If you buy the Pre-Launch Chronicle pack (30$), it gets you to VIP lvl 3... then you must spend 15-20$ / month for NC coin to keep VIP 4.... Generally when a new game launches you must purchase the game (30-50$), then pay a subscription (15$/month) so BASICALLY NCwest said, well make it free to play, but you have the option to "SUBSCRIBE" and by "SUBSCRIBING" the game is a little bit easier to those people. Now for everyone flaming saying its "Not Fair" because they cant afford the extra NC Coin , or Pre-Launch packs, then I am sorry, but if you cant afford the "Subscription" maybe you shouldnt be spending your free time playing a video game, and try to increase your income (or just dont flame about "P2W"). Some people are perfectly fine just running the FreeToPlay with no NCCoin or "Subscription" and that is awesome. But if you are constantly FLAMING and saying its "P2W" and its "Not Fair" you are most likely the person who will play 12+ hours a day, leaving us people who can only play ~20hrs/week at a disadvantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluephies Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, JamesSunderland said: Still wasn't able to find your point tho. Do you even DSMV brah? Topic is pure chemotherapy already. No need for more radiation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZygiA Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 minute ago, GoNoles69 said: I wouldnt say its Pay2Win.. I would say more Pay4Convenience. This game is directed to the hardcore gamer, not the casual gamer. And generally if your a casual gamer its due to the fact that you have a full-time job, family, gf/wife or all 3. So with the server being FREE TO PLAY, meaning there is no subscription, you have to look at the VIP Status as a Subscription. If you buy the Pre-Launch Chronicle pack (30$), it gets you to VIP lvl 3... then you must spend 15-20$ / month for NC coin to keep VIP 4.... Generally when a new game launches you must purchase the game (30-50$), then pay a subscription (15$/month) so BASICALLY NCwest said, well make it free to play, but you have the option to "SUBSCRIBE" and by "SUBSCRIBING" the game is a little bit easier to those people. Now for everyone flaming saying its "Not Fair" because they cant afford the extra NC Coin , or Pre-Launch packs, then I am sorry, but if you cant afford the "Subscription" maybe you shouldnt be spending your free time playing a video game, and try to increase your income (or just dont flame about "P2W"). Some people are perfectly fine just running the FreeToPlay with no NCCoin or "Subscription" and that is awesome. But if you are constantly FLAMING and saying its "P2W" and its "Not Fair" you are most likely the person who will play 12+ hours a day, leaving us people who can only play ~20hrs/week at a disadvantage. I agree with this completely. If you think about it, many of use have Jobs/Studies and careers to develop and thus buy the extras to be able to catch up with those who will be grinding in game non-stop. The extra exp (which can be acquired in game) and some extras that do not affect your game progress anyway, is in no way p2w. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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