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The reason people are complaining about the adena drop rate is cuz they pay2winned a bunch of exp scrolls/runes/buffs and powerlvled themselves superfast through the "classic" content. Now they hit a wall and want adena drop rates to be made easier rather than being smart with how they grind. Catering to pay2win players rather than intelligent ones is a pretty lame business model, but hey almost every mmo company is doing it nowadays.

If they do increase the drop rates of items/adena than people will just pay2win all the way to level 70 and those who didn't drop a few thousand bucks on nc coins will be around lvl 40-50 still. This is what the pay2win players want. They don't actually want equal sided pvp or contested pve spots, nono, they want to feel very powerful and this will kill the game.

Heck, I've almost got enough for my top d grade weapon and already and the server hasn't even been out a week. If you guys really think making things easier is the solution.. lol.

TL;DR Keeping the adena drop rates as low as they are will make it so the pay2win players mass spamming exp items will need to dial back their "grinding for exp" strats and go back to "grinding for adena" strats. This is how the game is intended and that is why there are warsmiths/bounty hunters and other functions in game that generate adena through teamwork.

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Common sense would dictate it has nothing to do with the exp rate or how fast you level up, it has to do with the rate at which you burn through SS killing mobs and the rate at which you earn adena to replenish them.

 

I'll give you a hint, they don't line up, even the people who are level 40 in CP are in a 33% deficit they offset by spending $5 on shots at least once or twice a day. This is all by design, NCwest is just milking the cows until the server dies.

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Soo...how exactly do you grind for adena?

 

Mobs drop 50 adena at lvl 25. Shots are impossible to use. Mobs give way too much exp.

Even without boost I'll be lvl 40 with no-grade starter weapon.

 

Face it - the economy is beyond messed up right now - the exp/adena balance was carefully calculated quite a while ago and it's totally messed up on this server.

No drop, no spoil, no nothing. Archers can't even exist for example because of insane arrow prices.

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I would avoid overhitting, but you hit the nail on the head, the exp to adena ratio is way off, even without boost.  In order to play effectively you'd literally have to delevel 10 times for every level you hit to keep up adena wise, forget about using shots or consumables ever.

There are paths around it, but it is unsustainable.

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2 minutes ago, Buffalol said:

If everyone is getting less drops/adena whats the big deal?  Shouldn't the economy show lower prices for items if all drops/adena is lower? 

The problem is certain game mechanics will cease to function after a few more weeks of this, just wait.  If it was not for the 25 armor quest, it would be happening already.

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Yeah I feel like he smoked a pot before writing this. I didn't "pay2win" and leveled 3 chars to 20lvl. I had like 60k from all combined. All I could do is buy shots for like 25k and buy one 8k book for my cleric that's it. Spending more on a book would not give me any ability to buy shots so I could farm.
One of those chars is a spoiler. Guess what I spoiled each mob I fought and I got barely any mats. You know that event where you get a box? Well if I sit at that spot for 4-5hours collecting those boxes I would get a lot more mats that spoiling from 1-20lvl... All I was able to do is farm 1-2lvl recipes for materials which made me feel like I was spoiling ewd or ewc. Crafter is usseles spoiler can't gather no where near amount needed for crafting.

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2 minutes ago, Buffalol said:

If everyone is getting less drops/adena whats the big deal?  Shouldn't the economy show lower prices for items if all drops/adena is lower? 

the economy is based around the dwarfs it always was like this

you screw with the dwarf playstyle you screw the entire economy

since spoil rates are low it means that spoilers cant feed the market with basic materials and weapon/armor parts 

that leads to the crafters spending more money on materials and parts because they are so rare 

but the real problem is neither the crafter or the spoiler CAN actually spend any money because the adena drop rate is even lower

thus inflating the economy and you can see stuff like short spears selling for 250-300k instead of below 150k which is their base npc shop price..

if the NG weapons are so high imagine when people will need karmian and blue wolf...

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11 minutes ago, BodybuilderIRL said:

The reason people are complaining about the adena drop rate is cuz they pay2winned a bunch of exp scrolls/runes/buffs and powerlvled themselves superfast through the "classic" content. Now they hit a wall and want adena drop rates to be made easier rather than being smart with how they grind. Catering to pay2win players rather than intelligent ones is a pretty lame business model, but hey almost every mmo company is doing it nowadays.

If they do increase the drop rates of items/adena than people will just pay2win all the way to level 70 and those who didn't drop a few thousand bucks on nc coins will be around lvl 40-50 still. This is what the pay2win players want. They don't actually want equal sided pvp or contested pve spots, nono, they want to feel very powerful and this will kill the game.

TL;DR Keeping the adena drop rates as low as they are will make it so the pay2win players mass spamming exp items will need to dial back their "grinding for exp" strats and go back to "grinding for adena" strats. This is how the game is intended and that is why there are warsmiths/bounty hunters and other functions in game that generate adena through teamwork.

So do they not want people buying their services? lol...

Also, even if you don't pay for VIP or xp scrolls or anything, you will still hit lvl 30, and still be getting 10a per drop. what then?

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1 minute ago, BodybuilderIRL said:

Heck, I've almost got enough for my top d grade weapon and already and the server hasn't even been out a week. If you guys really think making things easier is the solution.. lol.

no you don't

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Maybe if you guys keep asking ncsoft to make the game easier for you the ncsoft staff will actually do it. You'll still be completely outgeared, outleveled, and out everything'd by people like me though. Maybe instead of complaining you should adjust how you game, since clearly the way you're currently gaming isn't working out so well for ya.

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Consumables are literally WASTED adena, you can't repay any cost, the game has intended paywalls, those minority lucky players who get 0.0001% drops say "bruh not p2w you have to grind brruuh", really? The whole server is playing around adena quests in the starter towns, the people who are not doing adena quests are rushing exp with full buffs and soulshots from the NCStore and until when? The other are AoEing elsewhere with full mage parties, also, until when? The game and the server is fun but the paywall is so clear as day that it hurts, I'm playing scavenger and I feel like garbage, almost no SS to use if I wanna keep adena, only auto attacks and blue mobs every 20 or more spoils to get a thread or stem, this is fine...

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7 minutes ago, BodybuilderIRL said:

Heck, I've almost got enough for my top d grade weapon and already and the server hasn't even been out a week. If you guys really think making things easier is the solution.. lol.

No you don’t, no point in lying to a forum.

 

you sound super badass though with that nickname I better watch out

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2 minutes ago, dopaxe said:

No you don’t, no point in lying to a forum.

 

you sound super badass though with that nickname I better watch out

 

10 minutes ago, Snoozel said:

no you don't


Guess you two are having adena issues. Fyi I've seen around 100+ people with mid dgrade weapons already. Might want to adjust how you game bruhs.

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25 minutes ago, BodybuilderIRL said:

The reason people are complaining about the adena drop rate is cuz they pay2winned a bunch of exp scrolls/runes/buffs and powerlvled themselves superfast through the "classic" content. Now they hit a wall and want adena drop rates to be made easier rather than being smart with how they grind. Catering to pay2win players rather than intelligent ones is a pretty lame business model, but hey almost every mmo company is doing it nowadays.

If they do increase the drop rates of items/adena than people will just pay2win all the way to level 70 and those who didn't drop a few thousand bucks on nc coins will be around lvl 40-50 still. This is what the pay2win players want. They don't actually want equal sided pvp or contested pve spots, nono, they want to feel very powerful and this will kill the game.

Heck, I've almost got enough for my top d grade weapon and already and the server hasn't even been out a week. If you guys really think making things easier is the solution.. lol.

TL;DR Keeping the adena drop rates as low as they are will make it so the pay2win players mass spamming exp items will need to dial back their "grinding for exp" strats and go back to "grinding for adena" strats. This is how the game is intended and that is why there are warsmiths/bounty hunters and other functions in game that generate adena through teamwork.

Said no one ever.

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Just now, Snoozel said:

post a screen shot

PM Elli or w/e the name is on TI. That is just 1 I can name off the top of my head who can link it to you in chat.

Week 1 kids already got mid dgrade gear and people complaining. Funny game. They even gave you guys free armor to wear til cgrade. What else do you babies need? Geez.

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36 minutes ago, BodybuilderIRL said:

TL;DR Keeping the adena drop rates as low as they are will make it so the pay2win players mass spamming exp items will need to dial back their "grinding for exp" strats and go back to "grinding for adena" strats. This is how the game is intended and that is why there are warsmiths/bounty hunters and other functions in game that generate adena through teamwork.

I played a spoiler in the best possible place to spoil at lvl 24 on Sunday, spoiled a grand total of 14 times in 11 hours with a high kill rate on same level mobs.  This is not sustainable.

I don't know why I reply to you you are obviously trolling, nobody is that ignorant.

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