Is the queue "real"? Check this out

[InnocentSausage]

I decided to check on my delusions and actually take a stopwatch, and guess what i figured out? It does not matter whether there are 750+ people in queue or 250+ , the queue gets to 0 and/or disconnects you right after 10 minutes (600 seconds). In other words, the server will try to connect/disonnect you right after that 600 second interval has passed. 

@Juji @Hime Please , could you give a comment on that? The queue numbers seem irrelevant and the numbers fall even faster in high number queues as the 10 minute interval approaches to 0.

[Luivatra]

I noticed this as well, my theory is that they have tried to add a prevention of people logging into the queue and just leaving the pc, so that the client would disconnect if left on the char select screen for 10 minutes.

But it seems that the timer is started as soon as you enter the queue. Because everyone disconnects after 10 minutes it does not matter how many there will be in the queue, the max waiting time is 10 minutes because everyone in front of you will have disconnected already as they have been longer in the queue than you.

Queue will work fine until it hits a threshold of waiting time = 10 minutes, after that it is just a matter of being very lucky that you have enough time to log in before the timer kicks you.

[InnocentSausage]

5 minutes ago, Luivatra said:

I noticed this as well, my theory is that they have tried to add a prevention of people logging into the queue and just leaving the pc, so that the client would disconnect if left on the char select screen for 10 minutes.

But it seems that the timer is started as soon as you enter the queue. Because everyone disconnects after 10 minutes it does not matter how many there will be in the queue, the max waiting time is 10 minutes because everyone in front of you will have disconnected already as they have been longer in the queue than you.

Queue will work fine until it hits a threshold of waiting time = 10 minutes, after that it is just a matter of being very lucky that you have enough time to log in before the timer kicks you. 

I get disconnected when the queue reaches 10 or less people mostly, it's like it checks whether it should let me pass or no, and for some reason it decides no.

[Glock]

I tried this experiment of your, I got dc when there was 8 ppl left in queue but timer went only to 9.40 minutes, so where could the other 20 seconds go?

[InnocentSausage]

2 minutes ago, Glock said:

I tried this experiment of your, I got dc when there was 8 ppl left in queue but timer went only to 9.40 minutes, so where could the other 20 seconds go?

I guess if you were still in queue for the next 20 seconds, you would be logged in ^^

[Glock]

Just now, InnocentSausage said:

I guess if you were still in queue for the next 20 seconds, you would be logged in ^^

well thats the problem, so theres no real timer set, you can get 10 minutes other ppl 9 minutes it doesnt look like a real timer issue its just some bug I guess

[Auxis]

When are you all starting your timer? At the "Play Game" button or the "OK" button right before you enter the queue? My guess is that the 10 minute timer is at the login server level, which you establish your session at the launcher phase after you type your credentials. Game launch time is counted against you.

I believe the 10 minute timer is true. My tests have shown that when I start the time right when I submit my credentials, I get the error at exactly 10 minutes.

[Glock]

well if it would be at credentials then wait 9.30 minutes without choosing a server and look if u get dc after 30sec after choosing the server

[InnocentSausage]

1 minute ago, Glock said:

well if it would be at credentials then wait 9.30 minutes without choosing a server and look if u get dc after 30sec after choosing the server

Will try now!

[Auxis]

Remember, you must start the timer right as you submit your credentials.

[InnocentSausage]

1 minute ago, Auxis said:

Remember, you must start the timer right as you submit your credentials.

You mean the IP check goes as early as i open my NC Launcher? 

[Oldgamer]

Whats is the point to Queue when server capacity is around 5900 and there is 5890 online already.No one logs out and they keep some space for vip members.Only solution is another server for eu and free transfers.American have an options to go to Aden but euro players cant log in cant play, simple. 

[meatbun]

I was also able to reproduce this.

[qartveli]

The queue is not real. 

Aden is free server, other two is for VIP only. 

[SmileyCyrus]

I just tried it, with the following result: 

I set a 10 minute timer right when i pressed 'ok' after selecting Giran. Got to character select screen with 15 seconds left, got disconnect with 12 left. 

Going for a 2nd try.

[Zaphireia]

free transfers from Giran & Talking island to Aden pls haha

[Auxis]

Don't start the timer right when you press "OK" after selecting the server. You're already connected to the login server at that point. Start the timer right when the game is launched (after you hit the "Play Game" button).

[EvilHero]

cant log in for 3 hours now and still counting, bleeping pathetic..

[Glock]

21 minutes ago, Auxis said:

When are you all starting your timer? At the "Play Game" button or the "OK" button right before you enter the queue? My guess is that the 10 minute timer is at the login server level, which you establish your session at the launcher phase after you type your credentials. Game launch time is counted against you.

I believe the 10 minute timer is true. My tests have shown that when I start the time right when I submit my credentials, I get the error at exactly 10 minutes.

Well i tried waiting 9 minutes at server select screen and got disconnected

[InnocentSausage]

Just now, Glock said:

Well i tried waiting 9 minutes at server select screen and got disconnected

same here, at 5 minutes at server select only

[qartveli]

8 minutes ago, SmileyCyrus said:

I just tried it, with the following result: 

I set a 10 minute timer right when i pressed 'ok' after selecting Giran. Got to character select screen with 15 seconds left, got disconnect with 12 left. 

Going for a 2nd try.

i tried 4 times. same results. 

[Glock]

So theres no real timer aparently, it just kicks you out randomly

[Oldgamer]

ofc there is no timer server is full no one log out you want to enter with no vip acc there is no place for you.

[Danny]

so they put this anti-users system to make you pay vip

nice job @Hime @Juji, thats why your Live servers are dead and full of bots.

[Auxis]

Here's how I think it's working:

1. Login -> Login Server creates a session for you. At this point, your session timer has started (Let's say 00:00).
2. Play Game button pushed. (00:05)
3. The game is launched with the session token.
4. When game is finished launching, it connects to the login server with the token. (00:20)
5. Accept the ToS. (00:22)
6. Select Talking Island and click "OK" (00:25)
7. At this point, the queue will steadily decrease since everyone will either have joined the Game Server, or will have been disconnected due to their session timer expiring at possibly 10 minutes. If you hit the 10 minute mark before transferring your session to the Game Server (by selecting your character and clicking "Start"), you'll disconnect and your session will remain on the login server (read below).

The reason people are getting the "Account already in use." error is because when you're disconnected from the login server, the session isn't destroyed. The Login Server only removes the session token when it successfully transfers the session to the Game Server or until the user logs in again to create a new session.