ZygiA Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Just now, wildernessbox said: Not sure, on TI there are a few cp's that have dumped hundreds if not thousands into the game now, they switch shifts or pay people to level their characters while they sleep, they may also buy adena from goldsellers as they have gear that they would absolutely not be able to obtain in a full group without solo farming for long periods of time. Karmian is not that hard to get tbh. >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kupuldog Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Actually locking down areas on Russian servers is a thing. Some places are guarded by PK clans and they PK you, or you pay to level up there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arinulis Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Just now, ZygiA said: Karmian is not that hard to get tbh. >.> The only thing hard to get with Karm was the gloves iirc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissa Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, top said: Are you pretending or are you that dense? I am talking about epics, castles, all endgame locations. How do you get an epic or a castle with 1-2 undergeared CPs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kupuldog Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Just now, Krissa said: How do you get an epic or a castle with 1-2 undergeared CPs? I hope you know that it doesn't really matter what gear you have, if person is really higher in level than you, your magics will do 1 damage and your hits will miss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZygiA Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Just now, kupuldog said: I hope you know that it doesn't really matter what gear you have, if person is really higher in level than you, your magics will do 1 damage and your hits will miss? You still won't kill epics or get castles though. And people will catch up, sooner or later. And, they will catch up with better gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iulipwnz Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 On classic servers, level is the most important thing. One nuker 60+ can kill 20 people ~40 easy. That's why they rush level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZygiA Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, iulipwnz said: On classic servers, level is the most important thing. One nuker 60+ can kill 20 people ~40 easy. That's why they rush level. … So, that nuker kills 20 lvl 40 people and then what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kupuldog Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, ZygiA said: You still won't kill epics or get castles though. And people will catch up, sooner or later. And, they will catch up with better gear. They will kill epics as epics are: Orfen, AQ, Core for now. You can debuff them so with tone of debuffs epics aren't so strong as you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iulipwnz Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Not my problem then what. Just saying why they do it. They dominate the server, epics,etc. As we all know, stupid people buy items. So, that nuker kills 20people, wins epics,=$profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arinulis Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, kupuldog said: They will kill epics as epics are: Orfen, AQ, Core for now. You can debuff them so with tone of debuffs epics aren't so strong as you think. It's been a while but, uh, epics are immune to all debuffs. You can't stun them, poison them, or slow them. Which server were you playing where they could be debuffed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kupuldog Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Just now, Arinulis said: It's been a while but, uh, epics are immune to all debuffs. You can't stun them, poison them, or slow them. Which server were you playing where they could be debuffed? I saw it on Russian classic streams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissa Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, kupuldog said: They will kill epics as epics are: Orfen, AQ, Core for now. You can debuff them so with tone of debuffs epics aren't so strong as you think. How do you kill Queen Ant with a level 52+ party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arinulis Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, kupuldog said: I saw it on Russian classic streams. Ooooh interesting, it has to be a change in classic's files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Just now, Krissa said: How do you kill Queen Ant with a level 52+ party? You don't. You kill everyone else with 52+ party and kill AQ with correct level party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kupuldog Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Just now, Arinulis said: Ooooh interesting, it has to be a change in classic's files. Actually I'm not sure about real epics. 100% sure about instance epics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissa Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, top said: You don't. You kill everyone else with 52+ party and kill AQ with correct level party. Where would they get that "correct level party"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arinulis Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, kupuldog said: Actually I'm not sure about real epics. 100% sure about instance epics. Ah, the instance ones were not immune to debuffs, I do remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatHips Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 if you know what you are doing, got ahead early, spent $1000 on ncstore items and played 24/7 you can be 45+ or even 50+ by now no problem. I mean I'm 30 on two characters, all I've done is spoiled and played very inefficiently without buying stuff from store beyond VIP4 and played a couple hours a day since launch, missing 4 days entirely and not sharing account. I can easily see people being mid 40s or higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aytrax Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 TIL: people still don't know how to effectively play L2 in 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arinulis Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Aytrax said: TIL: people still don't know how to effectively play L2 in 2018 This..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beleaua Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 32 minutes ago, Arinulis said: It's been a while but, uh, epics are immune to all debuffs. You can't stun them, poison them, or slow them. Which server were you playing where they could be debuffed? i think only dragons can't be affected by such things and i think poison damage was still working. i remember in the old days people were always taking high level necro, for their insane debuffs from lvl 78-80. but it wasn't for dragons, more like frintezza, zaken etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arinulis Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, beleaua said: i think only dragons can't be affected but such things and i think poison damage was still working. i remember in the old days people were always taking high level necro, for their insane debuffs from lvl 78-80. but it wasn't for dragons, more like frintezza, zaken etc. I never did a Frintezza raid, I quit playing long before that one was introduced. I just remember AQ, Orfen, Core and Antharas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beleaua Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Arinulis said: I never did a Frintezza raid, I quit playing long before that one was introduced. I just remember AQ, Orfen, Core and Antharas oh they introduced another zaken, the old one was like 60 and new one like 83, there was freya, there was hb boss beleth, gracia bosses like tiat and many more i don't remember right now. there was also lilith and anakim. all before god update iirc. but aq/core/orfen were low levels, not really much debuffs at those low levels and the skills set were different in those c1-c3 times. later none bothered with low raids, just with aq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arinulis Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Just now, beleaua said: oh they introduced another zaken, the old one was like 60 and new one like 83, there was freya, there was hb boss beleth, gracia bosses like tiat and many more i don't remember right now. there was also lilith and anakim. all before god update iirc. but aq/core/orfen were low levels, not really much debuffs at those low levels and the skills set were different in those c1-c3 times. later none bothered with low raids, just with aq. I stopped playing around C5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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