Shakedown Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Bergthor said: 2003? must have been lineage 1. L2 went live april 2004 Ever heard of a Beta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InLegends Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Lineage 2 released in Korea October 1, 2003. It was possible to play on Korean servers if you knew what you were doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergthor Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, Shakedown said: Ever heard of a Beta? Really? Beta? I played beta as well, the last day of beta was great before the wipe. but fact remains L2 did not launch finished until 2004 april. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakedown Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, Bergthor said: Really? Beta? I played beta as well, the last day of beta was great before the wipe. but fact remains L2 did not launch finished until 2004 april. ....but you could play it in 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I would prefer prelude rates and drops. I would settle for C1 or C2 rates. What we have now is utter crap. The only Bounty Hunters making money are leeching spoils out of party from an aoe group or bots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakedown Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tonk said: I would prefer prelude rates and drops. I would settle for C1 or C2 rates. What we have now is utter crap. The only Bounty Hunters making money are leeching spoils out of party from an aoe group or bots. ...so go spoil out of party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergthor Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 i would not call closed beta 1 lineage 2, stress testing etc etc. really playing L2. thats me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergthor Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 i think spoil rates are by design of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Shakedown said: ...so go spoil out of party? A spoiler always could solo, spam SS, haste pots, ww pots, and healing potions and STILL MAKE MONEY. Now will an out of party buffer and healer, you have to rely on a .1% spoil to break even. Spoiling has NEVER been like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakedown Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, Tonk said: A spoiler always could solo, spam SS, haste pots, ww pots, and healing potions and STILL MAKE MONEY. Now will an out of party buffer and healer, you have to rely on a .1% spoil to break even. Spoiling has NEVER been like this. Good, with the stupid fast xp rates, we need something to grind for. Adena is the only other option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArentaS Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Ok, stop looking on l2wiki as official Giran db. Anyway, your counting with % is wrong. In party u had same lvls with same VIP? Never gotcha hit mob with no party member? That rapidly decrease rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawman Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 37 minutes ago, Avenza said: sry to tell you this but they are apparently increasing drop and spoil rates right now. You might want to do another "test" lulz Not true, unfortunately. What gave you that idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatecraft Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Good job though man! If anything, now you can claim Repetitive Stress Syndrome as a Disability ... LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawman Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sniff said: Ok, stop looking on l2wiki as official Giran db. Anyway, your counting with % is wrong. In party u had same lvls with same VIP? Never gotcha hit mob with no party member? That rapidly decrease rate. VIP level does not affect spoil rates. It should, but it doesn't so his VIP 2 or the VIP levels of others in his party don't matter. Oh, and people will quit using EU wiki as soon as NCWest sees fit to do its own wiki. Don't hold your breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoiler123654 Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 Quote Ok, stop looking on l2wiki as official Giran db. Anyway, your counting with % is wrong. In party u had same lvls with same VIP? Never gotcha hit mob with no party member? That rapidly decrease rate Was wondering about this. Is it about damage done? Or just being in party decrease rate? Still -10% is nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trox Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Lawman said: Not true, unfortunately. What gave you that idea? Original patch notes for today's Emergency Maintenance had it listed in it; turns out it was just the copy paste from the patch notes a few weeks back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixa Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Weren't you done and getting a refund like a week ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooks Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 35 minutes ago, Tonk said: They aren't fixing spoils at this time. They are fixing the issue that affected the cash shop purchases. If it hurts NCSoft, fix immediately. It hurts the player base, "we are looking into it." I have no problem spamming arrows, DSS, ww & haste pots and still make money as a HE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGardener Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 hours ago, Spoiler123654 said: So i did test some areas and here are the results (i am Vip 2 so add +20% chance): 500 Nos with party at aligator island, spoiled 6-7 sage rags fragments (l2wiki chance 7.706% — 9.428%) (I got one in 5 days with my buffer in party). 0 Scythe Edges (1.895% — 2.317%). 100 excuro at cruma tower with party spoiled 0 Recipe: karmian gloves (l2wiki chance 40.37% — 44.55%). 40-50 Undin Rowin at forgotten temple spoiled 0 recipe: Elven Mithril Gloves (l2wiki chance 23.11% — 28.47%). 15 Death fires at forgotten temple spoiled 0 dwarven trident edges (l2 wiki chance 32.30% — 39.20% * This mob spawns rarely at random locations, you may be lucky if find one per 1h if lots of people farming in FT). 900-1000 mobs in total in Forgotten temple (red area) rooms spoiled maybe 70% of them = 4 mace of judgment heads (patin archers) + 10-11 orichalcum and nothing from others. 0 drop, 0 spoils. I spent 3 days in that place. 40-50 Lord of the Plains in plains of the lizardmen got 0 brigantine Tempers (l2wiki chance 8.788% — 10.752%) But maybe that was just bad luck. 95% of mobs give only 1 material on spoil like Noble Ant Captain that gives 1 thread every time (l2wiki says: 1-13 thread). Some mobs give 1-3 but its rare. Top d / C grade recipes and parts drop/spoil chance is very low. The only items that you can spoil recs/parts for are the ones you can buy at shop. With one exception Most important !!!! I killed 800+ breka orc warriors (!!!!!!!), made trains of 6-8 and mass spoiled them. I got 0 recipe: Winged Spear (l2wiki chance 0,5-1%). I spent at least 6 hours there, you must run from one mob to the other and distance is big Didnt realise how many i killed until i saw that i got around 15-17+% at lvl 38 .. Each mob gave me 1,600-1650 xp .... Now i have a terrible headache and i feel sick, this is an addictive game and drop rate feels like gamble and with those rates you can spend hours and hours without realising it. Little kids play too, they dont have self control, they can damage their health. This is humiliating. No more tests. Im done Lineage 2 classic WIKI FROM EU version, dont represent correct drop/spoil % for classic NA or KR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArentaS Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 43 minutes ago, Spoiler123654 said: Was wondering about this. Is it about damage done? Or just being in party decrease rate? Still -10% is nothing i know that being in pt is drop reduced.Correct me ... so being 2 vip with 3lvl in PT. u got¨decreased only for 20% + normal chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medeoan Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 hours ago, Spoiler123654 said: Now i have a terrible headache and i feel sick, this is an addictive game and drop rate feels like gamble and with those rates you can spend hours and hours without realising it. Little kids play too, they dont have self control, they can damage their health. This is humiliating. No more tests. Im done Fun fact, yet sad fact, the reason the game keeps suggesting a break after each hour logged in is because there were a couple very publicized incidents in Korea of people dying due to playing Lineage II too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsuos Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Nothing but anecdote. Videos or it didn't happen. I call complete BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnydigits Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Spoil doesnt work because u have all the mats in the l2 store.. wtf do u think that mats would be on l2 store and u could spoil ur azz off? Cmon be serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 6 hours ago, Spoiler123654 said: With current rates. Will take a month at least to get armor c. At least 4 months to get weapon c. Years to get b. And thats only if you play 10 hours + per day umm ya and?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorukasama Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Do you really expected to get spoil so easy ? come on...Aint easy, yes, but the fact is we already spoiled an crafted several weapons in the last week....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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