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Classic Unscheduled Server Maintenance: Monday, October 29, 2018

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FatHips    237
2 minutes ago, Darkpsy said:

limit the maximum Box to dual box, and stop being greedy about the dolla, you can make the same amount of money (or more) if you keep it fair, this 8h queue is unacceptable....

How about disconnect afk free players to allow your paying customers to enter the game :-) ? Fair solution imo.

 

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Darkpsy    2
Just now, FatHips said:

How about disconnect afk free players to allow your paying customers to enter the game :-) ? Fair solution imo.

 

i think that already happens.

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lakirojunl    3
Just now, FatHips said:

How about disconnect afk free players to allow your paying customers to enter the game :-) ? Fair solution imo.

 

yeah sure gtfo with your solution) i am free to player and i log in once a week and i stay there ;) swallow it

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xHaseo    78
4 minutes ago, FatHips said:

@Hime lets see VIP rates boosted so that more people will support the server and your salary/benefits :-)  Start with VIP affecting adena/spoil rate rather than just drop rates, go with 50% and see how that goes.  If not enough people buy VIP then increase that 50% to 70% or 100% or whatever %.  Keep increasing it until enough people pay for the server upkeep.  There should be no need to exceed normal (Skelth) rates.  Do this to avoid adding items to the L2 store.  We do not want that!  

Only adjusting one of them also creates economic imbalance within the game.

From a business perspective, free play should always push players towards becoming paying customers, if free play is sustainable indefinitely people will not push themselves to become your paying customers and will be net liabilities to you.

We don't want you guys to have to boost the L2store with game breaking items.

 

Nice idea. So they will probably boost VIP rates when it's level 4 AND THEN throw lots of items into the store. Seems like a good idea! 

What was that, again? Free to play? Guess not. 

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FatHips    237
Just now, lakirojunl said:

yeah sure gtfo with your solution) i am free to player and i log in once a week and i stay there ;) swallow it

Become a paying customer and you may have a voice.

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Hunted    3
Just now, FatHips said:

How about disconnect afk free players to allow your paying customers to enter the game :-) ? Fair solution imo.

 

Paying customers do not have queues, if I am not mistaken! And at only 80 NCoin spent to be VIP 1, people need to quit QQing. About rates, about queues, about everything. What do you think HARDCORE means?

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hyucksama    3

don't be acting like you've never played NC games before..

the ONLY time NC scrambles to fix anything is when there's some unintended loophole-ish benefit that certain ppl are taking advantage of.

and stop crying about 40+ adena rates, it's pretty obviously intentional. They want the general population to remain reasonably competitive with P2W'ers, so they "unofficially" penalize people that move too far ahead of the curve by limiting drop rates on higher lvl mobs.

ofc, they will never admit this, but we all know that's what's going on.

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FatHips    237
Just now, Hunted said:

Paying customers do not have queues, if I am not mistaken! And at only 80 NCoin spent to be VIP 1, people need to quit QQing. About rates, about queues, about everything. What do you think HARDCORE means?

my VIP 4 accounts sat in a queue of 600 on the weekend for about an hour.  This is unacceptable while free accounts are in the game.  Competely unacceptable

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Josul    1
5 minutes ago, Mindless said:

Tell him to contact support, is the only way to fix it.

he cant log in from any account, even new accounts. he use to log in from an internet cafe. they waird thing is that he can log in the game, but he cant change pass or buy NCoins cause he need to log at the site. the only think he can do is to send mails and mails with no responce.

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Necroed    6

Maybe you intended for the Halloween buff to work differently, but the description on the item actually lead us to believe that it was proper, it was working a certain way for a week now. so what? It didnt slow down mine or anyone elses spending did it? Why not just address this during server maintenance? Why take it down "emergency" to do something that only hurts your player base? Poor decision imo.

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villen    22
3 minutes ago, xHaseo said:

With all the issues you guys created in even less than 1 month of game...having a potion to help us level up and sligthy increase our stat was quite a fair 'compensation' since it was 'for halloween only'. 


@Hime

 

This is how I was feeling, with all the time spent in queue over the last month, I felt like I was finally able to make some progress. And now they wanna kill that ASAP.

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lakirojunl    3
1 minute ago, FatHips said:

Become a paying customer and you may have a voice.

you opened the list of buthurted who payed ) let it get started lol

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Darkpsy    2
Just now, Hunted said:

Paying customers do not have queues, if I am not mistaken! And at only 80 NCoin spent to be VIP 1, people need to quit QQing. About rates, about queues, about everything. What do you think HARDCORE means?

for the game to be hardcore you have to at least play it, not spend 10h on queue

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Nel    0

 

Man ? WTH ARE YOU DOING NCSOFT ? L2 CLASSIC PVP SERVER ?

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W4rbax    3

90% of people speaking here have not played classic. This server is WAY MORE easy than a real classic one, so shut up and go hardcore instead of complaining.

Would really like to see any of you doing real class transfer quests, then all the complaints would be gone

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FatHips    237
2 minutes ago, hyucksama said:

don't be acting like you've never played NC games before..

the ONLY time NC scrambles to fix anything is when there's some unintended loophole-ish benefit that certain ppl are taking advantage of.

and stop crying about 40+ adena rates, it's pretty obviously intentional. They want the general population to remain reasonably competitive with P2W'ers, so they "unofficially" penalize people that move too far ahead of the curve by limiting drop rates on higher lvl mobs.

ofc, they will never admit this, but we all know that's what's going on.

This is my theory as well.

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ThaRock    1

Hopefully you're taking this action because you realised that the health and economy of the server wasn't going well and not just to fix a bug that players were exploiting. In all servers with all rates I played we used to get to lvl 20 with 1kk+ without having to do adena quests. Now you get there with 500k +/- and you need to save a lot in consumables. in my opinion, I would reduce boxes to 1 per account and auto-fishing to 1 hour. Other would be offline shops but that involves a lot of work. Something to reduce the number of players that are not physically in the server. Well, we know nothing is perfect and at least you guys are present and trying to fix bugs and make improvements. I believe that next year we'll reach the sweet spot and everything will be balanced.

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20 minutes ago, ZTerminator said:

Auto transfer is the worst idea ever... There are friends that play together and playing with friends is what I enjoy... 

Ok, it can be by request - if a player wants he transfer for free in reasonable time without requirement to be level 40 or other sht. I already made a character level 20 on aden server having char level  22 on giran server  as i can not simply log due to shiting queue. They have to do reasonable things but not continue to write pointless messages. 

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Lawman    146
24 minutes ago, Hime said:

Game servers will be down for maintenance beginning Monday, October 29, 2018 at 2pm PDT / 5pm EDT / 2200 GMT+1 and ending at approximately 3 pm PDT / 6 pm EDT / 2300 GMT+1. Estimated downtime is 1 hours.

With this maintenance:

  • The respawn time for monsters in all starter zones has returned back to normal to help improve server performance.
  • Fixed an issue where the Lingering Halloween buff items were not deleted correctly upon use.
  • A Free teleport event will start today until 11/14 as part of our efforts to fine-tune Adena issues after level 40. More information will be available later.

 

If you have any questions about the changes taking place during this maintenance, please feel free to post them on the forums. We also encourage you to follow @LineageIIOps for maintenance and server status updates.

These are okay stop-gap measures and I approve of anything you can do without depending on the developers.  But, oh my, would it be nice to have a bit more communication from you and @Juji!  Please at least acknowledge our concerns and discuss solutions you are considering, or have decided to implement as soon as the development team can get them done. The lack of response is truly distressing and, I believe, causes much of the angst you see here on the forums.  The same subjects are raised again and again because, thanks to the lack of response, it feels like no one is listening.  You've actually made some good attempts to address some of the problems, but never with discussion ahead of time.  You say something general and meaningless like "more information will be available later" then don't say anything else until you introduce the changes.  Would it bother you that much to talk with us, give us a feeling we are being listened to, and some concrete hint of what is being consider or done?  Thanks for reading. 

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hyucksama    3
1 minute ago, FatHips said:

my VIP 4 accounts sat in a queue of 600 on the weekend for about an hour.  This is unacceptable while free accounts are in the game.  Competely unacceptable

have some patience, it takes them a while to kick 600 f2p accounts for our vip asses.

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Hunted    3
1 minute ago, Darkpsy said:

for the game to be hardcore you have to at least play it, not spend 10h on queue

Well, perhaps because I am on Aden server, I have never experienced a queue. When I first started, I thought "Hmmm... I will join the server with players and better timezone"... I saw the queue and said "NOPE!" and began on the new server.

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marcysiek    93
2 minutes ago, FatHips said:

my VIP 4 accounts sat in a queue of 600 on the weekend for about an hour.  This is unacceptable while free accounts are in the game.  Competely unacceptable

well. 1st. no one forced u to pay, 2nd game is "free to play" so the free accounts can be in the game just like the vips

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