LeoLcm Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 thanks dev Team lets rock this game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeAStone Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Dont be mad CottonCandie, if you dont like my post, just avoid, or you're looking for fame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N3tRunn3r Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 lol more than 95M players in queue https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1559004763 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balistika Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Stop multi-box who kills the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldzera Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 This is the final week for Gludio Server Boosts of XP/SP/Drop Increase +30%. Read the details here. Free Teleports are available for all servers for one more week. This is where many many players will be leaving this game. I am one of them. This is so shitty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakumi Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 I just love how NCsoft goes out of their way every time to drop the ball on their player base, every time. Every single time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypnosx Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Why this updater cant Update, Stays freeze on 1% and dont go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakumi Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 27 minutes ago, GanjaSpoiler said: whats going on with the crap rate on spoil? with VIP i'm not getting them both, alot of times i'm getting only 1 from those 2, and never had 2 from the same item. Varnish 1 — 3 76.05% — 92.17% Iron Ore 1 — 3 69.63% — 85.75% This is because our version has the worst drop rates I've ever seen on an official server. They have it set so you barely ever get more than 1 item per mob, even though that was super common 'back in the day.' It's super apparent and they don't try to hide it. It's like they think if they make the game virtually unplayable in certain aspects it will drive people to spend money in the store, I guess... It was always meant to be hard, but there was always a path to get where you needed to go, albeit a hard one. For someone who doesn't box a bunch of tunes... life is rough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindom Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Quote The XP/SP Rune 50% (30-day) Pack has been added to the store. Allow me to slow clap this absolute blunder of a pricing scheme you've got. You expect people to pay $50 a month in order to stay competitive, while playing 3 accounts for some? I understand its a choice to play multiple accounts, but a number of people are. You would maintain a massively healthier population if you fairly priced these 'expected purchases' so casuals and hardcore player alike could play fairly. We would all buy multiple runes for multiple months if the pricing was even $15-$25 a month per account. You are greedy beyond any other game on the market and released a 'classic' version of L2 which is anything but. Aden dungeon? Classic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starsong Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Wtf do we even expect? They can't even correct the descriptions for packs in the L2Store ... and we want actual development on the game itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatHips Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Sakumi said: This is because our version has the worst drop rates I've ever seen on an official server. They have it set so you barely ever get more than 1 item per mob, even though that was super common 'back in the day.' It's super apparent and they don't try to hide it. It's like they think if they make the game virtually unplayable in certain aspects it will drive people to spend money in the store, I guess... It was always meant to be hard, but there was always a path to get where you needed to go, albeit a hard one. For someone who doesn't box a bunch of tunes... life is rough! Free to play rates are lower by design to encourage VIP status problem is VIP status does not alleviate the issue at all Push for a subscription-only model to bring back true playable rates for everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noviscki Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 minute ago, FatHips said: Free to play rates are lower by design to encourage VIP status problem is VIP status does not alleviate the issue at all Push for a subscription-only model to bring back true playable rates for everyone If they go for a subscription model they will loss 50% of actually active player base. Even tough there is a LOT of people that didn't bought any NCOIN, another just bough 5-10 to get vip1-2 max. So not to reliable decision to go. I think they shoudl readjust the Store, prices are too high or GET THE COSMETICS (hair accessory) for the Store you can survive AND ALLOW THOSE KIND OF ITENS TO BE TRADEABLE. So people will be encouraged to buy cosmetics for selling (it helps to get ride of ppl that buy adena, they will buy NCOINS instead, fair for you guys right?) I think for this short-time period it's the best solution. * Cosmetics tradeable * Adjust price of itens in mid-time period just get the botters and adjust bug with rates in long-time period just do an wiki (with real stats of this NA classic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lafush Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 SUBSCRIPTION-ONLY MODE PLEASEE... im tired of this weird ass rates... let me pay my 15$ a month so the game will actually be playable and get it over with.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindom Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 nope, they think $50 a month is more reasonable. Ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kar Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 I just can't beleive you only fixed the adena/drop rates for Cruma 2nd floor and some 60+ zones around Aden Nothing for FOM, DV or Sea of Spores where people actually are ? This is frustrating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lafush Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 i came to play this with 3 of my friends and all this cash grab model and terrible rates is just driving us away.. we won't be able to benefit from the halloween event because we just got to lv.20 and while most ppl are running Grade D from the event - we probably wont get it and will be behind.. not that they took away the extra money from the spiders quest - it will push us backwards even more, after everyone have been abusing it for a month.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightkeeper Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 19 hours ago, task said: no fix for 40+ area adena drops? 19 hours ago, RickRoss said: Didn't you realise that we are beta testers here. Report, qq, spam for theese areas and you will get fixes. 19 hours ago, Mondread205 said: i am crying about lvl zones like 2 weeks. and they fixed 30/40 and 50+ .. and no soloing zones… lol 19 hours ago, Mondread205 said: FIX TIMAK, PLAINS, SEA OF SPORES, IVORY, FOREST OF EVIL, ALIGATOR. 19 hours ago, sour said: Congratulations, you successfully turned L2 into a themepark mmorpg. Very sad to see you fixed a very small amount of zones / mobs. I like how people still call this a (((((fix))))). Like does anyone actually believe that they just accidentaly murdered the spoil/drop/adena rates, which coincidentaly™ massively boosted their L2store profits? It's more like "well the s***storm reached the critical levels so we're forced to change these settings". It's like calling THIS an "accidental packaging error". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatHips Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 15 minutes ago, Noviscki said: If they go for a subscription model they will loss 50% of actually active player base. Even tough there is a LOT of people that didn't bought any NCOIN, another just bough 5-10 to get vip1-2 max. So not to reliable decision to go. I think they shoudl readjust the Store, prices are too high or GET THE COSMETICS (hair accessory) for the Store you can survive AND ALLOW THOSE KIND OF ITENS TO BE TRADEABLE. So people will be encouraged to buy cosmetics for selling (it helps to get ride of ppl that buy adena, they will buy NCOINS instead, fair for you guys right?) I think for this short-time period it's the best solution. * Cosmetics tradeable * Adjust price of itens in mid-time period just get the botters and adjust bug with rates in long-time period just do an wiki (with real stats of this NA classic) I'd be willing to bet that far more than 50% of their playbase pays nothing. Lets see what the industry research says: "Seufert (2014, 154), in his book dedicated to the freemium model, mentions the rule of 5%, where 5% are monetized players. The vast majority of players do not bring money, creating costs for business, and the aim is to reduce these costs by increasing the number of premium players." https://www.theseus.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/134405/Goncharova_Elizaveta.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y According to this, if NC would keep 50% of their playerbase, they are literally sitting on a gold mine. Never make store items tradeable, there is a very specific and good reason they did not, once they start to do that people will leave in droves I would presume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatHips Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 @Lightkeeper literally all of the problems you described go away with a pay-to-play model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noviscki Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, FatHips said: I'd be willing to bet that far more than 50% of their playbase pays nothing. Lets see what the industry research says: "Seufert (2014, 154), in his book dedicated to the freemium model, mentions the rule of 5%, where 5% are monetized players. The vast majority of players do not bring money, creating costs for business, and the aim is to reduce these costs by increasing the number of premium players." https://www.theseus.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/134405/Goncharova_Elizaveta.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y According to this, if NC would keep 50% of their playerbase, they are literally sitting on a gold mine. Never make store items tradeable, there is a very specific and good reason they did not, once they start to do that people will leave in droves I would presume. I agree with most of it, but this last topic why it's not best to make tradeable itens for COSMETICS in shop, cuz cosmetics don't have ANY influence in game at all. And will help them to get some resources from it. I'm not mentioning the buffs/boosts/consumable stuffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zace Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 lmao $50 for 30 day rune, get lost you disgusting money grubbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lafush Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, Zace said: lmao $50 for 30 day rune, get lost you disgusting money grubbers When did NCsoft turn into Trion Worlds? O_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atreidae Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 19 hours ago, Hime said: Fixed an issue where the reward for the Sweetest Venom quest was greater than what was advertised in the quest rewards. Thanks, this is the last straw, Im done with this server. 1 month "abusing" this quest and I guess you'll not "punish" them, only the new players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumTingWong Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 I've said it before, but I seriously believe that NCSoft would make more money if they weren't trying so hard to make more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zace Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Just now, SumTingWong said: I've said it before, but I seriously believe that NCSoft would make more money if they weren't trying so hard to make more money. If success was measured by making people not want to give you money, NCsoft would be on Apples level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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