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@Conguero, long time ago, was a dark period in Europe history, during the Middle Age. the chief of Inquisition was a famous priest, Torquemada, who reduce to silence and death  every oponent and enlightened mind who wants science and progres, and all this cruel, criminal things, inclusiv torture and burning people in fire was maded  in the name of God and religion. they said, "believe and do not doubt". hope its only a coincidence you choose also a spanish name, and all we hope Ncsoft its not Inquisition, and Conguero its not Torquemada. actually, what you can do? ban all and close the official forum? or maybe change ur politics and attitude before will be too late?

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Methodical    9
12 hours ago, f00dmonsta said:

nope, plenty of f2p games thriving, e.g. DoTA, CS:GO, Path of Exile...etc. What are the common aspects for these games? Little to no P2W. One would be surprised on the amount of money people spend on cosmetics, you can even have rare cosmetics from loot boxes and people spend hundreds on it. Multiply hundreds by tens of thousands of players, and it dwarfs the thousands of dollars by 100 players.

NCWest's business model right now is to do the least and reap from the rich, a volatile strategy because just 1 rich person quitting will cause a severe dip in revenue, instead of being a hard working company, that earns it's pay from the masses. I feel saddened by this, especially since NCWest is by far the worst offender out of all the NC* companies around the world.

Some of this is because of Richard Garriott screwing up NCWest with his failed Tabula Rasa, gets fired for pretty much funnelling all the company's funds into said game (I remember chatting with a GM, who said they had no resources to fix their website [remember when the library was 3 years out of date?], because of "another project"), and then taking millions after successfully suing the company for firing him. NCWest has been struggling with cashflow because they haven't produced a decent game in almost a decade.

So unless NCWest will invest into hiring good people to actually run the game, the 2 or so employees responsible for L2 will not be able to do anything other than try to lengthen the demise of this great, but ruined game; and that would by boosting their short term sales figures without regard for the future.

I wish they would just sell the rights to a company that actually cares... Even Lineage 1 is generating more revenue than L2... Who here wants to form a company that buys rights of dying games (due to shitty management) and actually run them properly?

dont mix the oranges with the potaoes, to play dota 2 you need a key donated by another player same for cs go you need to purchase it,

also on the steam you cant even add friends if you havent spent money on the store ;).

and finally is dota 2 and cs go mmo? no. therefore they get revenue from other ways like advertising companies ets. l2 its based on players money.

dota 2 championship do really give 13m usd to the winning team? no, its just like a tv show.

thx for ur points

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slimshady    0

Why dont you make server for p2w players and second server completly without L2store? Server with only p2w players would generate even more $$$$ than now. Think about it.

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__SpOO__    2

And on the p2w server there will be like 4-5 parties of payers maximum fighting for Aden :) Cool story.

They do not need to do that, it will happen much sooner than later anyway. There will be just a few parties of people left in the end, the ones that spent money for their toons for like a big mansion with a dozen of cars etc.

At least is what NC West is showing to us so far and like trying to achieve with all their effort.

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__SpOO__    2

Visa warriors need meat shields to kill and pump up their $ ego like they are something :) It is not fun to play with equal geared people, you can not just 1 shot the entire siege field, so no fun.

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Munch    4

People complaining and whining again about a P2W item in the L2Store, yet after a couple of days, it'll all be fine and everyone will move on just like with the previous promotions, that they had with the L2Store. A never ending repeating cycle. As for some, that are pointing out the "hypocrite finger" at others, you need to tell others as well, that after the maintenance you're already shouting to buy NCoin in game, to buy the new items you're complaining about on the forum 9_9, so please explain, what's the sole purpose of "you" posting here and raging about OP items being introduced into the game? It's not much of a difference, if you buy it with money or from another source for Adena, since you make someone spend money to buy the promo item from the L2Store, you support them, simple as that. 

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Oeste    57
On 14/2/2018 at 7:49 AM, Draecke said:

There is zero need for buying these in the current game, PVE wise it's completely unnecessary overkill.. you know how fast I kill mobs right now and honestly killing them 2 seconds faster really doesn't effect the overall experience by much and XP Cap at 105 means why da duck would anyone care at this point right ?

Any current good circlet +2 accessory circlet is as good as or comparable to a normal circlet of power up to +5; an Int + Matk will give you +3 Int and 10% Matk so no need to replace it. So i agree with you, unless you are planning to making it noble and beyond there's no point in buying these. Now if you have a noble it makes no sense no to go for +5 since the noble circlet can't de-level and plain noble is not good enough to justify the investment (if you are willing to invest in these).  

Overall I agree, simply don't buy them stick to the current 2 accessory circlet which is good enough for all purposes. 

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Quitted    42

Well Ferine I was in Nova too. You can't be a pve player with the nova tag on your head.

Join a pve clan and enjoy the show till it lasts. It's not you but the human environment you choose to live in.

Those sheeps haven't already read about

- dragon shirts

- improved brooches a and b

- improved r99 armors

- dragon weapon boxes

- jewels of the goods

- sayha's talisman and more to go

Well everyone has to put on his wallet from 10k to 20k $ to let me play for free every 1 or 2 weeks lol

 

 

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Draecke    408
26 minutes ago, Quitted said:

To me this sounds like compulsive gambling but hey untill they pay to keep the servers running I'm more than happy.

Them Silver Linings ehh :)

gotta-look-for-those-silver-linings-2763

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Riche    0
Hi All,
 
So, finally, this circlet is on L2 West.
Guess what's next?
 
In about a month ago, there was an event in L2 Korea, which called "Forgotten Secret Scroll".
Another P2W event, sells enchant scroll item that you can enchant new passive skill up to +30.
These passive skills are warrior, wizard and knight and you can learn all 3 of them.
 
Ofc, L2 Korea players spent hundreds of dollar value korean money to make just one of the passive skill +30.
 
Nc Soft, now, moving on their P2W marketing to Skills. We are not disappointed enough yet. :(

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Yidao    149

For everybody, this is the event Riche is talking about:
http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=850&start=170#p37711

I personally think it could have been worse (the Seven Signs SAs were much worse as far as gambling is concerned), but the Korean players totally freaked out (scroll down the page on Rochand). In South Korea there is an official channel to direct the government's attention to things you are unhappy about:
http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=850&start=180#p37740
Next week we should know more.

And Happy Year of the Dog everyone!

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Dargor    22

@Quitted As someone who's only been here a few months and hasn't sold a kidney for ncoin I'm well aware of the struggles of making adena and I know very well that unless I do sell said kidney, I'll never have half of what Truffle or Aizen have ig. Bottom line is it's their money and that's how they chose to spend it. And as long as they do nc won't bother changing their ways. Then again, if they stop L2 is probably over. I prefer not to concern myself with other people's spending habits as there's nothing I can do to change them, nor it's any of my business to do so.

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Argus    170

~ 2 days after the thread was opened,10 000 views, more than 150 comments, the topic was shown as ( HOT ) in the forum and we have no info/answer from any NCsoft representative ...  

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Yidao    149

For everybody, this is the petition; the signing period ends on Monday, February 19:
http://www1.president.go.kr/petitions/104938

That's the website of the President of the Republic of Korea, it's as safe as it gets, and as you can tell from the fact that the Blue House staff permitted the petition to be put up in the first place, it is considered as a valid complaint. It's all official and above board :)

You will find a summary of what you are signing there via the Rochand link above.

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Argus    170

I log, I check, I am being amazed again! :D 

some comments are deleted, more and more ppl are not satisfied with what NCsoft is doing aaaand .. ofc no official information from our server managers!

People, they are waiting and waiting until you COOLDOWN, because they know you will skin them if they post/answer or even get close to the forum.

About the Circlets, just a fun fact, we are counting how many Noble and how many Radiant there are on NAIA server!

ALSO, last PROMOS were not advertised to players via - NEWSLETTER, but Circlets of Power is!! Seems they are not satisfied with the sales figures! :(:( 

In the Casino from time to time you win :D, in l2 you never win :D 

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Draecke    408

pretty much so.. even cheats cost money nowadays :P

anyways can we please get a hot fix asap next maintenance to those circlets that makes them eligible for appearance changes cause they're fulgy as sin and nobody should be forced to have to look at them imo..

 

 

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Jackl    37
On 2/14/2018 at 3:38 PM, f00dmonsta said:

Even Lineage 1 is generating more revenue than L2... Who here wants to form a company that buys rights of dying games (due to shitty management) and actually run them properly?

Daily reminder that NCWest killed Lineage1 because their playerbase wouldn't accept P2W mechanics. Also Daily Reminder that L2 will also die when the last Whale decides to not drop a 2nd mortgage on KR/RU drops set as NCstore only items.

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