Kokola90 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Hi. Is this intended to nerf summoners this hard? Not everyone wants to play the "nuker" while being summoner. What's the point of summoners right now? Shots are way too expensive, while other classes spam shots as much as they want. Even buffer servitors are from 77 lvl. Really? Just make the prices lower because even summoning shots is insanely expensive. Right now all classes > summoners. Until you lower the prices of servitor shots summoner class is completely dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefJerky Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I feel the your pain since grinding without shots sucks, and being summoner you don't have that great spell dmg compare to mages but give heads up you going hear this from someone. Beast shots are luxury and not suppose to use it all the time ;p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgerking Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 NCsoft increased shot consume by summons to 2 after Seven sings update(latest update) and its the same here. meanwhile we get 1/5 of the actual classic rates.it makes them x10 more expensive then usual . EVEN on other classic servers ppl cant afford beastshots until 58+ with actual x1 adena/drop rate , so on our server we will never be able to use beat shots? currently i need drop full weapon every 4h if i want to farm with shots HOW is thi supposed to work NCwest ? its like other weapons to cost 10 shots. this is nonsense . can we get official response on this matter, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 If, NCSoft decrease beast SS price to 20 or so, soon you can see 5-unicorn team in Insolence tower/Antares lair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgerking Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Coop said: If, NCSoft decrease beast SS price to 20 or so, soon you can see 5-unicorn team in Insolence tower/Antares lair even if they take x1 SS its still impossible to use shots. u have no idea what u saying tbh. u need to be playing summoner actually to know what i mean. how would u feel if ur SSC cost 140 adena? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, burgerking said: even if they take x1 SS its still impossible to use shots. u have no idea what u saying tbh. u need to be playing summoner actually to know what i mean. how would u feel if ur SSC cost 140 adena? You do not need other gear when you use summons with beast ss, right? Spoilers are crying for spoil rates and summoners are crying for beast ss price. But in reality, most class in bot paries are these two types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgerking Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Coop said: You do not need other gear when you use summons with beast ss, right? Spoilers are crying for spoil rates and summoners are crying for beast ss price. But in reality, most class in bot paries are these two types. i do not need other gear? yea our BD is doing more dmg then my 56 lvl summoner btw ( im also using C duals actually LOL) i need other other chars to kill the mobs not other gear WE CANT even afford to use spirit sharing buff LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixa Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Simple, at this part of the Classic, you ain't supposed to have shots anyway.Get used to go w/o them or learn how to make adena to support your DD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, burgerking said: i do not need other gear? yea our BD is doing more dmg then my 56 lvl summoner btw ( im also using C duals actually LOL) i need other other chars to kill the mobs not other gear WE CANT even afford to use spirit sharing buff LOL Beast ss was not introduced 16 years ago in C0/C1.5. But we still survived as Nec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FachaAr Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 LVL 40 youll get this skill, still 36 adenas per soulshot https://l2wiki.com/classic/Summon_Soulshots_-_Warlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoanWolf Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Im a Dark Avenger and have around 4k beast shots. I only use them for pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, FachaAr said: LVL 40 youll get this skill, still 36 adenas per soulshot https://l2wiki.com/classic/Summon_Soulshots_-_Warlock When ppl started to use B/A ss, your beast ss remains the same price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgerking Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Coop said: When ppl started to use B/A ss, your beast ss remains the same price. B weapons dont cost x2 shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, burgerking said: B weapons dont cost x2 shots. 1 spoiler + 5 unicorns dominates, even without beast ss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgerking Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Just now, Coop said: 1 spoiler + 5 unicorns dominates, even without beast ss. at what ? lvl 20 ? im done guys . w/e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, burgerking said: at what ? lvl 20 ? im done guys . w/e standard bot party setting in cruma/FT/enchanted valley/Ivory tower now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kokola90 Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 This is not true classic, so do not compare this hybrid to other classics. Maybe start saying that daily missions are not needed too cuz they are not the part of classic? Beast shot prices have to be lowered. You cant change my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Kokola90 said: This is not true classic, so do not compare this hybrid to other classics. Maybe start saying that daily missions are not needed too cuz they are not the part of classic? Beast shot prices have to be lowered. You cant change my mind. We are not trying to change your mind, not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FachaAr Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 On 11/14/2018 at 5:41 PM, Coop said: When ppl started to use B/A ss, your beast ss remains the same price. summons do consume more SS with skill lvl ups, and for what i can calculate ss for summons are always more expensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenkye Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I play a CAT - Warlock and is a sad about use ss on my pet. We never do it maybe on pvp we can use it but 72adena per 1 hit so expensive when mobs drop 100-300 adena. Cat need do 5-6 hit to kill mobs 5* 72 or 6* 72 / 360 adnea and 432 so 1 mobs cost us 60-320 thatis very expensive ............. Make drop rate adena x1 or change cost make ss for pet. Or you never saw soon any summoner on the serwer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgerking Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 summoners will always be unplayable. either change SS consume back to 1 or fix the rates....... WE WILL NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER be able to afford shots. NEVER how we are supposed to farm LOA or any good high lvl spot ? HOW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatHips Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 In the original game, which is what mobs are based off of, summoners did not have shots, pets took between 10 and 90% of exp, and they constantly "ate" Crystals. NC never "balanced" the class to take into account soul shots, but they added them anyways. So what that means is the class is pretty balanced without shots, and with, it's overpowered. You have it easy, summoner is easily the 2nd most OP class (economy-wise) in the game except for Warlord right now. Also in the later game you won't care about that cost. These complaints kind of blow my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c08mk Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 My solution would be to increase amount of shots summoned by skill rather than lowering price in shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyes Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 1 hour ago, burgerking said: summoners will always be unplayable. either change SS consume back to 1 or fix the rates....... WE WILL NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER be able to afford shots. NEVER how we are supposed to farm LOA or any good high lvl spot ? HOW? Party. You're not supposed to farm at LOA solo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentColpa Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 im sorry to say but mainly people that know how to role summoner will play the summoner as DD even yourself. you have masteries you can use dual/bow/dagger and use yourself SS if you need to help your pet kill mobs that its the way summoners were played 90% of the times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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