burgerking Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, mixa said: Adapt, wait for a fix of the rates. I'm sure they will put these shots in the L2Store at some point, 50ncoin for 1000 beast shots or smth like that. lets be real. rates will stay the same. i actually do LIKE the hardcore rates because other servers feels like pvp servers with red weps/+10 sets. u think putting these shots at ncstore will "fix"the issue? ill just quit if they do that lol i can farm w/o shots its ok for now. but late game will be another game when sws/bd starts to outdmg me when they get decent weps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aghast Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 yeah no that's not a solution... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 17 minutes ago, burgerking said: lets be real. rates will stay the same. i actually do LIKE the hardcore rates because other servers feels like pvp servers with red weps/+10 sets. u think putting these shots at ncstore will "fix"the issue? ill just quit if they do that lol @Aghast and @burgerking we are not mocking you(well, maybe a little) You need to face the reality, that the things won’t change here, maybe they will slightly fix rates just to keep vast part of the “community” paying before they introduce the real P2W shop for the heavy loaders(mixa’s sarcasm about beast ss in shop would be a minor change in that case). All the newbies setting high hopes for game breaking improvements, posting suggestions(what ppl including my self, call “nonsense”) - they all gonna be plain disappointed sooner or later. That’s, why you should start looking for ways to adapt instead of just waiting for a fix, if you plan on staying here longer. to end this wall of text, i’d love the future to prove me wrong cheers and good night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgerking Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 so ncsoft prefer servers with 1k on and 300 real players then long term milking machine? nothing is done for casual/solo players. they show no interest to speak with their community .nothing is done about anything. oh wait, they buffed loa for the 68+ mage party so can make even more money from rmt. my bad this servers will have 1k online until the summer if not in 3 months if ncsoft remains ignorant. this problem here will kill entire class in the game. spoilers are already dead and countless other problems will be simply ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neXi0r Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Maybe change bow ss usage together with summons? Seems balanced :> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheGame Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 ncsoft want summoners only for bots so just dont play summoner class is not joke! u think late game u can pay 75 for shot no man u still cant just rerol now or u will leave after 1 month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzeo Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Correct me if I'm wrong but the summon's damage without ss is comparable to a melee class with ss. I mean yes, beast ss are expensive, but summoners have already decent damage without them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastor Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 My SWS has no attack skills. How am I ever, ever, ever supposed to farm LoA solo? This game is so unfair. ---- Save beast shots for pvp. Buffed up summons are insane even without shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgerking Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 3 hours ago, neXi0r said: Maybe change bow ss usage together with summons? Seems balanced :> ur archer is atleast 5 times cheaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neXi0r Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 28 minutes ago, burgerking said: ur archer is atleast 5 times cheaper BeastSS = ((275 * 4) / 30 ) * 2 PER HIT SSC (emi bow) = 16 * 5 PER HIT (+ Arrow C cost :D) In your world 74 is equal to 80? :> *Edit: oh wait u said 80 is 5 times less than 74 **Edit: riiight x2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgerking Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, neXi0r said: BeastSS = ((275 * 4) / 30 ) * 2 PER HIT SSC (emi bow) = 16 * 5 PER HIT (+ Arrow C cost :D) In your world 37 is equal to 80? :> ur bow deals x3 the dmg of my pet. u dont have 48critical rate either. also its 72a/hit not 37 btw the total dps of archers is like x4-5 of summoners also archers are not worthless outside of PvE. as i see u can also afford shots . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinuphyl Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, burgerking said: ur bow deals x3 the dmg of my pet. u dont have 48critical rate either. also its 72a/hit not 37 btw You can resummon it after it died. you are less likely to get damage yourself, so neither do you need to rest often, nor using healing pots. You can skip a hell lot of equip. Most Summoner are still using Cursed Maingauche on Level 60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgerking Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tinuphyl said: You can resummon it after it died. you are less likely to get damage yourself, so neither do you need to rest often, nor using healing pots. You can skip a hell lot of equip. Most Summoner are still using Cursed Maingauche on Level 60. 1 day farm equals top C wep from luxury in beast shots btw i dont think ur archer cost 5kk-8kk/day in shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neXi0r Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 20 minutes ago, burgerking said: 1 day farm equals top C wep from luxury in beast shots btw i dont think ur archer cost 5kk-8kk/day in shots Even if archer is shooting once every second. Its 3600 hits per hour its almost 300k adena per hour. I don't think u can use more as summoner. :> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wover Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 9 hours ago, InTheGame said: ncsoft want summoners only for bots so just dont play summoner class is not joke! u think late game u can pay 75 for shot no man u still cant just rerol now or u will leave after 1 month sadly gotta agree with him ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgerking Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 21 hours ago, neXi0r said: Even if archer is shooting once every second. Its 3600 hits per hour its almost 300k adena per hour. I don't think u can use more as summoner. :> u cant make 3000 hits/hour i make 2200 with 770 atk speed on zone that u dont even run to mobs get real u dont even get close to 1000 hits/hour. summoner is 4-5 times more expensive then ur archer . i am being realistic and im 100% sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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