LoanWolf Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Ty for PK scrolls in the cash shop. Very much needed for this version of this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punish Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 How exactly are these going to work? Does anyone have details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabloidex Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Double-click to lower PK value by 1. It can be used only in Floran Village. It can only be used when the PK value is 1 or higher. https://l2wiki.com/classic/Scroll:_PK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NazgullSupport Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, Punish said: How exactly are these going to work? Does anyone have details. No idea, but it is not necessary to be an intelligent people to see , that must works reducing directly the quantity of karma points, or per each player PKed or even the percentage of the PK points that any Chaotic player could get by killing abusively to another player. Would be nice if they use it to kill bots... but something tells me that those damned Scroll will be the Apocalypse for legitimate player around the L2 world... What a Nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punish Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 NCsoft Please do not do this, you're jacking with THE CORE game mechanic that controls the entire game and player / player interaction. Scroll: PK (No-grade) 80 NCoin = $1 USD Scroll: PK (D-grade) 100 NCoin = $1.25 USD Scroll: PK (C-grade) 120 NCoin = $1.50 USD Scroll: PK (B-grade) 160 = NCoin = $2.00 USD Scroll: PK (A-grade) 240 = NCoin = $3.00 USD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixa Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Poor nobs, these scrolls are gonna ruin the classic even faster.It was expected though.More to come very soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punish Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 1 minute ago, mixa said: Poor nobs, these scrolls are gonna ruin the classic even faster.It was expected though.More to come very soon I figured they would, the Return on Investment for spinning these servers up seems to be geared toward 3 to 6 months... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixa Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Punish said: I figured they would, the Return on Investment for spinning these servers up seems to be geared toward 3 to 6 months... More or less seems like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punish Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 This is so blatantly obvious what the strategy is now from a business model perspective. I recently hit level 35 and did my first daily and could only come to the conclusion that NCsoft wants us to fight asap, not 6 months from now, but before the first castle sieges occur, there could be no other reason for the exp scrolls and +++ stacking EXP bonuses, along with the AFK fishing with the newly introduced 30 day pole, this company wants us to war so damn bad so we get pissed off and buy the consumables from the l2 store. It's not Lineage 2, this is a direct attempt to make money off the worst traits of human behavior. This is WHY the KARMA system is there in the first damn place, to have real CONSEQUENCES for outright murdering someone. All I can see coming from this is the guys with a fat wallet going on Murder spree's to get off on the dominance aspect of player killing. You will alienate MORE people with this THAN ANYTHING I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NazgullSupport Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 This is what Descepticons was talking about when they take the phrase: "To @Punish and Slave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoanWolf Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share Posted November 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Punish said: This is so blatantly obvious what the strategy is now from a business model perspective. I recently hit level 35 and did my first daily and could only come to the conclusion that NCsoft wants us to fight asap, not 6 months from now, but before the first castle sieges occur, there could be no other reason for the exp scrolls and +++ stacking EXP bonuses, along with the AFK fishing with the newly introduced 30 day pole, this company wants us to war so damn bad so we get pissed off and buy the consumables from the l2 store. It's not Lineage 2, this is a direct attempt to make money off the worst traits of human behavior. This is WHY the KARMA system is there in the first damn place, to have real CONSEQUENCES for outright murdering someone. All I can see coming from this is the guys with a fat wallet going on Murder spree's to get off on the dominance aspect of player killing. You will alienate MORE people with this THAN ANYTHING I've ever seen. Exp is too high anyway. You don't lose adena or sp on death. Lets have some fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NazgullSupport Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, LoanWolf said: Exp is too high anyway. You don't lose adena or sp on death. Lets have some fun True. By that way the people crying for SP Amount, can balance they're XP/SP Stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klyukva Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 it will be pay to win mechanic by the way you pk all party clear pk buy scroll you win pvp wtf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punish Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, Klyukva said: it will be pay to win mechanic by the way you pk all party clear pk buy scroll you win pvp wtf? This is my thoughts exactly, Death becomes meaningless. Without meaning, dying really will mean nothing to people, just pop a few exp scrolls from a daily, PK and buy a scroll to keep it low so you don't drop anything, there are no consequences for any action at that point. If death is meaningless, the conflict will be meaningless. This will hold peoples attention worse than anything, PK will be commonplace and those who can't roll with the CP or Clan they are with will be at a significant disadvantage. NCsoft almost should have just made a freaking First Person Shooter with the way this is going in terms of the average gamers attention span per title. This is a simple game design theory, if it doesn't hurt you, you don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starsong Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Is the following math ok? I pk 4 ppl, pop 1 XP scroll (should be enough for dekarm), pop 4$ worth of pk scrolls, all ok and i even have more XP + spot taken pleb. Sounds awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOiL Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Starsong said: Is the following math ok? I pk 4 ppl, pop 1 XP scroll (should be enough for dekarm), pop 4$ worth of pk scrolls, all ok and i even have more XP + spot taken pleb. Sounds awesome! Seems like you've never got karma, you can't use exp scroll while you have karma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starsong Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 hours ago, SOiL said: Seems like you've never got karma, you can't use exp scroll while you have karma. Not enough and not at levels where i had xp scrolls, still, get killed, recover xp via scroll ... whatever ... tomato tomato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punish Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 My main concern is with PK scrolls people will get bored with the game a hell of a lot faster than without them. Killing someone and going red will not give you the rush and therefor the concept of PK will become entirely irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahriya Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 This is stupid idea. this is like paying for a Power-Delevel service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan_chl Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 And finally we can know why the karma system is so broken in this chronicle... Because NCSoft is seek for another fountain of money with this scrolls. Nothing to say, is a shame transform a PvP game for catch more money from ur users if they want to play like the olders way, where for example if u was griefing for somebody or another party, u just kill them and make justice for ur hands!! the L2 way from all life... But here was cut and ruin, just for ambition and vil sound of money!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixa Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Punish said: My main concern is with PK scrolls people will get bored with the game a hell of a lot faster than without them. Killing someone and going red will not give you the rush and therefor the concept of PK will become entirely irrelevant. This is very well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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