Zebus Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 So never got to play L2 back in the day and had saw a bunch of people playing it on twitch. Had saw that they had released a classic version of the game and was like ya sure I will give it a try. So ya I gave it a try made it to level 20 and oh boy this game is a stinking pile of garbage. So many bots and gold sellers. No players interaction. No gear progression. I understand this game is supposed to be grind and not a theme park mmo and I am fine with that but the only weapon I get is at level 10 and I do a class change to a elf knight and you get nothing? Cant even buy a weapon or armor from a NPC. I have 35k at lvl 20 that is no where close to being able to buy even a low teir NG weapon. Then from 20-25 there are no quest its dry 5 levels of grinding. You cannot "craft" gear? You have to be a dwarf and have the recipe and then also the ridiculous amount of mats that you need to craft with. I think my main issue is that there was no player interaction. Everyone is already like level 40+. Heck most people are running boxs and just play solo anyway. Its a MMO I want to talk and play with other people. 2nd would be not enough quest and 3rd would be no gear, 4th would be adena rates need to be 5x of what they currently are. Oh well it doesnt matter in the end its NCsoft they dont care. I hope you guys enjoy your time here and your nostalgia. I gave it a shot and just not my cup of tea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenseiMuguruma Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Finally someone that has eyes and mouth and speaks the actual truth ! This was supposed to be a "remastered" experience with all the good grind but with a modern idea... But we got a bot fest with clueless "devs" that just keep on ruining the game ... Server population is getting lower and lower... Is this going to end by New Year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cally Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 I dunno... I've done the 2 available money quests in Elven Village for 2 weeks straight and managed to buy then a low D weapon. Yes, the progress is hard.... and yeah, I also think there is not enough basic mats drop or spoil. But reaching lvl 40 and average till top D is also for casual ppl possible (like me. I play in average 1h per day) I'm after 2 months lvl 30 and collect money to craft my top D weapon. - The VIP 3 was useless... gave me basic mats in value of 200k.... after 30lvls. Biggest problem are the bots. I barely can find a spot to grond cuz of bots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightkeeper Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 If there was any GM presence, they could give 5 bans per minute if they visited the main spots. Instead they try to stop the bots with some funny protection which gets bypassed by some 10yo Russian kid in 2 days and NCsoft is like "oh well at least we tried" and give themselves a participation award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degusjr Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Cally said: I dunno... I've done the 2 available money quests in Elven Village for 2 weeks straight and managed to buy then a low D weapon. Yes, the progress is hard.... and yeah, I also think there is not enough basic mats drop or spoil. But reaching lvl 40 and average till top D is also for casual ppl possible (like me. I play in average 1h per day) I'm after 2 months lvl 30 and collect money to craft my top D weapon. - The VIP 3 was useless... gave me basic mats in value of 200k.... after 30lvls. Biggest problem are the bots. I barely can find a spot to grond cuz of bots. Who is their right mind wants to do the same quest over and over again for 2 weeks straight? That's not a game, thats torture! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ximbil Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Im lvl 40. I give up. All places is full bots. I open a topic about it, no answers, closed topic. Ivory Tower Crater and Sea of Spores, important places to farm books (cdl, dw), is full of bots. U cant kill mobs. This is how NCSoft considers players.https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/9566-when-ncsoft-will-start-ban-bots/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkmalisa Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Guys and gals, let me tell you straight up. THIS SERVER IS A HUGE MONEY MAKING MACHINE. IF YOU SEEK PLEASANT EXPERIENCE THEN GET OUT AS SOON AS YOU CAN. IF YOU WANT TO STAY THEN BECOME PART OF THE "GAME" AND START BOTTING. Thank you. Have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cally Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 30 minutes ago, Degusjr said: Who is their right mind wants to do the same quest over and over again for 2 weeks straight? That's not a game, thats torture! Well, there was no other way to gather 380k Adena on lvl 23. It was a torture, but everyone said "this is classic".... Maybe the rates would wok better if there weren't so many bots and ppl with millios of Adena from them that can effort 10 top D weapons to overenchant one to +15. Those ppl shoot the prices for mats into the sky -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinaInverse Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 11 hours ago, Zebus said: I understand this game is supposed to be grind I don't think you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manos Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 there is clearly a problem on the definition of grind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLASSICmergeCHRONOS Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 13 hours ago, Zebus said: So never got to play L2 back in the day and had saw a bunch of people playing it on twitch. Had saw that they had released a classic version of the game and was like ya sure I will give it a try. So ya I gave it a try made it to level 20 and oh boy this game is a stinking pile of garbage. So many bots and gold sellers. No players interaction. No gear progression. I understand this game is supposed to be grind and not a theme park mmo and I am fine with that but the only weapon I get is at level 10 and I do a class change to a elf knight and you get nothing? Cant even buy a weapon or armor from a NPC. I have 35k at lvl 20 that is no where close to being able to buy even a low teir NG weapon. Then from 20-25 there are no quest its dry 5 levels of grinding. You cannot "craft" gear? You have to be a dwarf and have the recipe and then also the ridiculous amount of mats that you need to craft with. I think my main issue is that there was no player interaction. Everyone is already like level 40+. Heck most people are running boxs and just play solo anyway. Its a MMO I want to talk and play with other people. 2nd would be not enough quest and 3rd would be no gear, 4th would be adena rates need to be 5x of what they currently are. Oh well it doesnt matter in the end its NCsoft they dont care. I hope you guys enjoy your time here and your nostalgia. I gave it a shot and just not my cup of tea. Try again you don’t convince us . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandimortis Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 this thread will also probably be deleted soon. The start halloween even who droped so many top D weapon was a huge mistake. this created a big gap betwen players, those top D weapon + top D moon armor killed the start game/challenge. if people are tempted/can buy adena its because something is wrong in your game. I tried to report a bot once you know what? the system message told me that this player have be 'already fined' for using illegram program, that i cant report him again. sorry to say the true, money buy laws in real life and in game. bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternius Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Thanks for trying out L2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremmy Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 11 hours ago, KenseiMuguruma said: Finally someone that has eyes and mouth and speaks the actual truth ! This was supposed to be a "remastered" experience with all the good grind but with a modern idea... But we got a bot fest with clueless "devs" that just keep on ruining the game ... Server population is getting lower and lower... Is this going to end by New Year? nope, server population is OK and stable: - Talking Island (NA Classic) 5160 players - Giran (NA Classic) 5466 players - Aden (NA Classic) 2910 players - Gludio (NA Classic) 1810 players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremmy Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 18 hours ago, Zebus said: So never got to play L2 back in the day and had saw a bunch of people playing it on twitch. Had saw that they had released a classic version of the game and was like ya sure I will give it a try. So ya I gave it a try made it to level 20 and oh boy this game is a stinking pile of garbage. So many bots and gold sellers. No players interaction. No gear progression. I understand this game is supposed to be grind and not a theme park mmo and I am fine with that but the only weapon I get is at level 10 and I do a class change to a elf knight and you get nothing? Cant even buy a weapon or armor from a NPC. I have 35k at lvl 20 that is no where close to being able to buy even a low teir NG weapon. Then from 20-25 there are no quest its dry 5 levels of grinding. You cannot "craft" gear? You have to be a dwarf and have the recipe and then also the ridiculous amount of mats that you need to craft with. I think my main issue is that there was no player interaction. Everyone is already like level 40+. Heck most people are running boxs and just play solo anyway. Its a MMO I want to talk and play with other people. 2nd would be not enough quest and 3rd would be no gear, 4th would be adena rates need to be 5x of what they currently are. Oh well it doesnt matter in the end its NCsoft they dont care. I hope you guys enjoy your time here and your nostalgia. I gave it a shot and just not my cup of tea. This game is supposed to be grind and not a theme park mmo See ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremmy Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 8 hours ago, Cally said: Well, there was no other way to gather 380k Adena on lvl 23. It was a torture, but everyone said "this is classic".... Maybe the rates would wok better if there weren't so many bots and ppl with millios of Adena from them that can effort 10 top D weapons to overenchant one to +15. Those ppl shoot the prices for mats into the sky -.- Please don't blame the game if you can't figure out how to make decent money at your level ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremmy Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Brandimortis said: Those top D weapon + top D moon armor killed the start game/challenge. Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenseiMuguruma Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 25 minutes ago, Jeremmy said: nope, server population is OK and stable: - Talking Island (NA Classic) 5160 players - Giran (NA Classic) 5466 players - Aden (NA Classic) 2910 players - Gludio (NA Classic) 1810 players OK and stable ? 1000 people left in a week from each server. How is this stable ? And don't get me started on how many more will leave because xmas and new year is coming. This is not ok at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremmy Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 29 minutes ago, KenseiMuguruma said: OK and stable ? 1000 people left in a week from each server. How is this stable ? And don't get me started on how many more will leave because xmas and new year is coming. This is not ok at all. OCTOBER 5: TALKING: 5881 GIRAN: 5638 ADEN: 594 GLUDIO: DOESNT EVEN EXIST. TOTAL: 12.113 OCTOBER 17: TALKING: 6572 GIRAN: 5286 ADEN: 4512 GLUDIO: DOESNT EVEN EXIST. TOTAL: 16370 Now, do the math: TODAY: 15.346 players online in the middle of the day. HOW IS THIS "DIYNG" ?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124c Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 18 minutes ago, Jeremmy said: OCTOBER 5: TALKING: 5881 GIRAN: 5638 ADEN: 594 GLUDIO: DOESNT EVEN EXIST. TOTAL: 12.113 OCTOBER 17: TALKING: 6572 GIRAN: 5286 ADEN: 4512 GLUDIO: DOESNT EVEN EXIST. TOTAL: 16370 Now, do the math: TODAY: 15.346 players online in the middle of the day. HOW IS THIS "DIYNG" ?!?!? We have december kid wake up,you are 2 months behind peak time servers have 5k and half are bots/multibox and only getting worse every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shreekz Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 22 minutes ago, 124c said: half are bots/multibox Not seeing this in the stats. Where did you find that statistic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakedown Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 1 hour ago, 124c said: We have december kid wake up,you are 2 months behind peak time servers have 5k and half are bots/multibox and only getting worse every day. ??? Today = 15k online. very similar to before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NazgullSupport Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Shakedown said: ??? Today = 15k online. very similar to before Don't attempt to still trying to proof some people that servers are not dying... they would just leave and don't appear again, but, they are just complaining even when some of them don't play. Some people has offered their own experience without having trouble with Xp, SP, Shots Etc, but they are ignored or just treated really bad for Cryers. In the end, we can see that the most of players are playing right now, because of they don`t have time to come here to check what's possible to find in forums, the most of the people in forums are here to cry for anything and some little part like you and me, come just to see how this Ocean of tears is growing up , but sometimes we really find some useful things to use in-game. Conclusion: Let them Cry, Servers are not in risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthag Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 4 hours ago, Jeremmy said: nope, server population is OK and stable: - Talking Island (NA Classic) 5160 players - Giran (NA Classic) 5466 players - Aden (NA Classic) 2910 players - Gludio (NA Classic) 1810 players TI ... 5k are bots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oeste Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Worthag said: TI ... 5k are bots ....really? i guess our raids cc's with 200+ people has 1/2 bots then... damm I never noticed it, they look so...... real...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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