AskeQQ Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) I quite often see parties like this, one main active character and 8 boxes follow him and maintaining him with buffs, mana, hp. I have made several ticket about this because i think these players just using illigal software, but no, NCwest copy+paste some answer and dont ban them, so i understand they do it legaly. So can you please explain me how to manage to make party like this? One main active character and 8 active support boxes how buff me, restore my mana and hp. Edited December 13, 2018 by AskeQQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goshirak Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 I saw parties like that full of melees that even to me made me suspecius think about this he could make a macros like this to " target next " in a self macros /target silenos /target silenos varka /target silenos varka commander if he press the key, he will target one of this target, avoiding the limit of range of target next after press that key, he should press all the other keys in for example, their 20 computers with their 60 characters then if u see someone assisting with 59 characters, could be doing something like that BUT, WAIT A MINUTE if you see the 59 characters react to assist at the same time, without delay, IS A BOT if u see delay between them, probabbly, 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 to 5 seconds ( because he has to move his hands ) is 99% probabbly a human this is what i think but u know, probabbly is a bot rofl is hard for me play 3 characters mages at same time, extremely hard 4 to 5, imagine more than that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goshirak Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 thinking more deeply of could he do it as legit putting in the desktop many keyboards smalls connected to their computers, and creating in game macros with delays to send heals or recharges " thats a way " but is crazy u know could be /target character /delay 10 /spell great heal /target character /target character /delay 30 /spell great heal /target character /target character /delay 60 /spell great heal /target character /target character note that /spell is not a macros and is just an example same with the other skills probabbly him to safe time do that, but soon or late will have to press with his human hands again the macross to restart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goshirak Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 if you hit a bot, probabbly he will heal himself so fast thats another way to detect them, pay attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AskeQQ Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 Come Enchanted Valley, you will see how they work, all boxes follow in line active player, and they give him buff, mp, hp, songs, dances, without stop. I see a bot, but NCwest does not, and it is a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goshirak Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, AskeQQ said: Come Enchanted Valley, you will see how they work, all boxes follow in line active player, and they give him buff, mp, hp, songs, dances, without stop. I see a bot, but NCwest does not, and it is a problem. could you record a video in low quality to dont see their names? you can do this hit one of their character with a hit up to 400 lowring his CP of course, if you see a fast reaction of autoheal, is a bot 2. try to lure one of his hitted monster with aggresion, go so far 20000 meters, let the bot kills it, he will end stucked, cuz his software will fail 3. PK his healers, see if his party died, 100% confirmed bot, do this only if u want he get banned, remember record a video Edited December 13, 2018 by Goshirak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goshirak Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 you can see an example of how to lure a bot to disable them in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ4kgK0Soxc&t=8s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AskeQQ Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Goshirak said: you can see an example of how to lure a bot to disable them in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ4kgK0Soxc&t=8s What interesting me is, they start one Lineage 2 client only and other 8 boxes is log in by any other software, and this software control these boxes yes? They just make settings what every character suppose to do in party? heal, buff, etc? Its just hard me to believe they open 9 x real L2 clients. Edited December 14, 2018 by AskeQQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goshirak Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 hour ago, AskeQQ said: What interesting me is, they start one Lineage 2 client only and other 8 boxes is log in by any other software, and this software control these boxes yes? They just make settings what every character suppose to do in party? heal, buff, etc? Its just hard me to believe they open 9 x real L2 clients. i dont know how they do but lineage 2 detects if you try to log in more than 3 characters per pc and not allows you, but if you own 3 computers you will open 9 clients, 3 per pc what can i tell you is botters plays " perfect " because is something setted automatic to play, and they never rest, humans rest for example, a bot is designed to make 500.000 exp in 20 minutes but a human will do, 550.000 exp in 20 minutes, or 200.000, understand? bot timers is automatic, human time, is different, this happen even pressing skills, recharging mp, or healing themselves i recorded this video for you today of a soloing botter, watch how him react, i had kill his unicorn all the day, if he loses his unicorn, he will rest, is what i saw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw1ue9R9E08&feature=youtu.be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AskeQQ Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 12 minutes ago, Goshirak said: i dont know how they do but lineage 2 detects if you try to log in more than 3 characters per pc and not allows you, but if you own 3 computers you will open 9 clients, 3 per pc Bot software somehow avoids this. Really, you can say whatever you want, but it is hard to believe so many people on this server they use 3 x pc. I see this kind of party on every spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goshirak Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 minute ago, AskeQQ said: Bot software somehow avoids this. Really, you can say whatever you want, but it is hard to believe so many people on this server they use 3 x pc. I see this kind of party on every spot. forum is dead, in 3 hours only you and me posted here...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorManhattan Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 They are absolutely bots, they just don't get banned because they are probably paying NCsoft to not ban them. Meanwhile me and other legit players are getting banned for "3rd party software" when we have been playing legit from the start. It's disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiraelQQ Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 There are keyboards wich allows you to controll multiple PC's at once. There was even a topic with pics how it works. You can freely run 9 pcs with one keyboard and with proper keybindings and focus you may contol entire party by yourself. Microskills this is how it is called. Of course there is a probability that it's a bot but you cant judge just by one picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceOfSpade Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 hour ago, ZiraelQQ said: There are keyboards wich allows you to controll multiple PC's at once. There was even a topic with pics how it works. You can freely run 9 pcs with one keyboard and with proper keybindings and focus you may contol entire party by yourself. Microskills this is how it is called. Of course there is a probability that it's a bot but you cant judge just by one picture. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noviscki Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 10 hours ago, AskeQQ said: What interesting me is, they start one Lineage 2 client only and other 8 boxes is log in by any other software, and this software control these boxes yes? They just make settings what every character suppose to do in party? heal, buff, etc? Its just hard me to believe they open 9 x real L2 clients. 1 hour ago, ZiraelQQ said: There are keyboards wich allows you to controll multiple PC's at once. There was even a topic with pics how it works. You can freely run 9 pcs with one keyboard and with proper keybindings and focus you may contol entire party by yourself. Microskills this is how it is called. Of course there is a probability that it's a bot but you cant judge just by one picture. But there aren't keyboard that does that. i'm sure that are VM's (Virtual Machines) You can emulate a whole computer inside your computer. i've saw that in Black Desert Online that people used to bot there. So it's 2 or more computers at once in a single machine (of course, you need a High Quality and Monster PC) but yes, You can do it easily So you open 3 box + 3 box on virtual machine and if you can (your pc runs) you get + 3 box at another virtual machine. or a notebook for those. I'm Just sad that EVERYWHERE I GO there is bot there, i never found a Free Resp anymore it's SO FRUSTRATING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cally Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 9 hours ago, AskeQQ said: Bot software somehow avoids this. Really, you can say whatever you want, but it is hard to believe so many people on this server they use 3 x pc. I see this kind of party on every spot. Well, you can have 3 Virual machines running on 1 PC.... each VM can log 3 Characters to L2. That's how easy it is. All you need is a decent gamer PC, since L2 berely needs performance on lower detail. 12 hours ago, Goshirak said: you can see an example of how to lure a bot to disable them in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ4kgK0Soxc&t=8s I tried this. But noticed that many bots don't follow a mob for too long, when it goes outside of their defined hunting area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AskeQQ Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 6 hours ago, ZiraelQQ said: There are keyboards wich allows you to controll multiple PC's at once. There was even a topic with pics how it works. You can freely run 9 pcs with one keyboard and with proper keybindings and focus you may contol entire party by yourself. Microskills this is how it is called. Of course there is a probability that it's a bot but you cant judge just by one picture. I see this kind of parties every day and you say they have 3 x PC and special keybord.... Or maybe, they need just 1 PC, standard keybord and bot software who log 8 account with proxy and without open new L2 clients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noviscki Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I think the point of this post is: The difference between human actions and machine actions. The speed a human can actually execute a command in multiple screens. We are limited, we have the time against us. YES! There is a lot of people highly able to perform amazing stuffs quickly and smart but still, it's not a machine. Will miss, will delay, will have troubles. and YES! It's easy to findout who is bot and who isn't. grab ur popcorn and watch those 8 boxes for 30min or 1 hour. will do pauses, mistakes, break the protocol if it's an human. like going at bathroom, eating, anything that...human must do. A Bot does a simply thing also that differences from humans: Standards. They will do ALWAYS THE SAME THING no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogfullmelt Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 17 hours ago, Goshirak said: you can see an example of how to lure a bot to disable them in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ4kgK0Soxc&t=8s i can't see shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosephine Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 It is not hard to have one main gaming computer and 2 super cheap other computers $200-400 each. I do in fact. And there are programs that can do macros for all sorts of applications. I would say the only thing wrong with parties like these is how ugly they look, but 9 live people in a melee party look the same! People always get upset when someone is L2'ing better than they are. Impossible! Is bot! GM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degusjr Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 35 minutes ago, Bosephine said: It is not hard to have one main gaming computer and 2 super cheap other computers $200-400 each. I do in fact. And there are programs that can do macros for all sorts of applications. I would say the only thing wrong with parties like these is how ugly they look, but 9 live people in a melee party look the same! People always get upset when someone is L2'ing better than they are. Impossible! Is bot! GM! hahahaaa, programs to do macro's = bot, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggle Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Don't you have to log out of game and then log back in to know your BANNED. So if you never log out you will not be BANNED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helv Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 It's from the Live Forums section, but I think this can answer your question, scroll to 2:14 to see the list of servers, classic ones are included. On 11/30/2018 at 4:25 PM, JUDGE said: For you it's Science Fiction. I will educate you how it work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGjG0bTngQo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goshirak Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 10 hours ago, ZiraelQQ said: There are keyboards wich allows you to controll multiple PC's at once. There was even a topic with pics how it works. You can freely run 9 pcs with one keyboard and with proper keybindings and focus you may contol entire party by yourself. Microskills this is how it is called. Of course there is a probability that it's a bot but you cant judge just by one picture. interesting, could you show us a picture of that keyboards in ebay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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