Tool_of_Society
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On 12/24/2023 at 12:32 AM, Jbee said:
I am trying to understand why mage weapons are harder to enchant than other weapons. What is the logic behind this?
Not sure but it's something we first noticed in closed beta. Was kind of neat to see the "real" percent chance was in line with guesses from +10 years ago.
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I doubt it as mage weapons have a noticeably lower enchant success rate.
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Lack of response is due to the jaded nature of what little playerbase remains after constant screw ups on Ncsoft's part. Ncsoft has never been effective at bot control as they refuse to invest the time/money required to do so. Instead they like to rely on useless "bot detection" such as gameguard which just creates vulnerabilities in your computer. It's cheaper/easier to do that than to say pay a couple GMs to head out on the servers for a few hours each to ban obvious bots.
At this point I'm pretty sure Ncsoft is scared to have an actual effective anti-cheat team as they know it would catch a whole bunch of whales. -
I would be very surprised if the majority of parties in TOI are not using some kind of automation/bot. The damage done by higher level mobs is at such a ridiculous level there's no way for autohunt/macros to deal with it. I guess if you drop +10 grand on P2W you could do it but your buffers are going to be highly vulnerable. Combine that with how slow leveling is in the high 80s into the 90s and you provide an incentive to use bots to manage the party so the buffers enter buff and leave. Ncsoft has a terrible record of bot/script/radar control.
Big problem is that mob difficult jumps tremendously at +80 yet gear drop still sucks. Our Pay 2 win is vastly more expensive than other regions and we lack other features to help. So at this point I basically just run off and die at 80 because I cannot level in any of the areas that drop adena and isn't packed with bots/farmer alts. Leveling in the elemental areas till the end of time is not viable as I don't have an army of alts farming for me like a lot of people. My hope is that I am able to build up enough adena at some point to be capable of leveling in those higher areas but until then I'm going to delevel and go back to the grind. -
On 9/26/2023 at 7:22 AM, XanaksEU said:
Exp progress update:
Due to many free exp items and consumables (amzn prime, promos), the best way to exp is:- Do quest line until 40 class transfer
- Exp some basic buff for your character (WC or OL or PP + SE/EE)
- Use dragon fruit, elixirs and all exp items and go straight to Cruma 3 - decent exping
I did lvl 65 so far with 3 supports. Planning to expand with 3 more supports on the way. It will bring my group to 7 characters.
Best way to get money for a newbie is exp characters until lvl 40, roll the 2nd class books which are in demand and sell via toon in Giran. Easy adena.For a new player going through the full set of quests is the best way due to the items and consumables that are thrown at you. I like your little diary here and I wish you luck with continuing it.
An experienced player with a good blunt weapon and at least B grade heavy can go straight to Cruma3 after finishing the quest that sends you to Gludio. I straight up leveled an elf summoner from level 15-56 with a two handed +7 tuning fork and unenchanted BW heavy. I of course used full consumes (storm scrolls buff from the GK for the ROA quest) and shots with auto hunt set to melee. From character creation till 40 took me about 30 minutes. -
There was a large exodus of players after they changed PKing to have no downsides and NCsoft didn't care then so good luck.
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7 hours ago, TMACv6 said:
lmao i use win10 x64 not have problem same SSD.
I reinstalled the x64 version first because I didn't think much about it and was shocked when it didn't work. Took me a moment sitting there to remember that the game was developed in the 32 bit era and NCsoft can't be bothered to update the client to 64 bit.
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You need to install the x86 version of microsoft visual C++ Redistributable package. The game is a 32 bit game so the 64 bit aka x64 version won't work..
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7 hours ago, socketka said:
I just get disconnect on all windows at once without having any packet loss with my connection.
I used to have that issue. I had no issues with latency at all in any online game except lineage 2. My tracerts to the servers were under 70 ms (I could physically drive to dallas/austin in a few hours). Turns out it was my router that I was using. It just seems one day the router decided it no longer liked lineage 2 and even a factory reset didn't solve the problem. Whatever was causing the problem it didn't effect the number four port. Ports 1-3 would guarantee a dc from lineage 2 sometimes within minutes. Port four though had no such problems. The router had stopped working a couple times during the day when it got really hot (texas lol). So I kind of assume it was partially heat damage that was the issue.
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2 hours ago, SammlerMull said:
NCsoft prolly had nothing to do with the corruption of Microsoft Visual C++ 2015 installation... the fix is to re-install the x86 version, from a Microsoft link like this: https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=48145 because Lineage 2 is still an x86 program(our Unreal Engine does not actually support 64bit operation)
Indeed the memory limitations of 32bit causes some of the problems people experience when a client is running for "too long" and has been around the game world map.
What I find amusing is that out of four machines only one of them experienced this issue.
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1 hour ago, Ymir said:
The real problem here is that PK system is completely bleeped, what is this "no drop no punishment" system for PKs? Absolute nonsense, since the biggining of times of L2 being PK was a complete risk, you couldn't do it without risking the chance of loosing more than you were winning by killing someone unflagged, you would loose items, and that's the final punishment. With this system you won't loose shit, cause you "drop" things that you can recover for 100k, 100k!? Really!? On a game that has a market value of BILLIONS for just one simple item. Yes, killing people and being PK is a part of the game, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be punishable propperly. War is one of the most common things (and fun) of Lineage, 2 clans or ally beating each other over some conflict, completely natural. But when you have a bunch of Lv.87-90+ players killing EVERYONE ON SERVER (and this is not exageration, they're clearing the whole map) and saying "blame X person" like if that would make it reasonable. It's not natural anymore, cause they don't have a propper punishment for this, maybe if they had, they would think twice before just going killing people non stop for no reason. And we all can agree, that this is a childish behavior that should be punishable with a higher fee than recovering items "dropped" for 100k. I don't think making higher lower level chars inmune to dmg from chars +10-15 lvs apart is a solution, but i think the drops should be real, not just phantom drops that nobody can pick up and you can recover for an ammount of adena that means absolute nothing on this server. By the way, we all know who is doing this childish behavior since ever, and it's always the same side, you can get in the cross-fire with some people, but with most if you talk and make them understand you're not war related, they will listen, but there are others that don't care at all and have been doing this for the past 5 years, they can't fight their real enemies so they say "if we don't farm, nobody will" and go killing everyone on server, and that's the actual phrase they used, said by their leader who got banned for botting, leaving behind the mad kids on his clan unprotected and doing the same childish things they were taught to.
Indeed that is what drove the first big exodus of the game as after they changed PKing to have no downsides rage quitters dedicated themselves to killing everyone in an attempt to kill the game. While I did not conduct extensive surveys it seemed the rage quitters were generally mad about the P2W stuff that was coming out and our feedback being utterly ignored by korea.
I tried to edit this in on my post but after 30 refreshes I gave up on that option ever loading. -
Best part for me is I'm at work or sleeping when the good stuff is listed. So best I can hope for are coins.....
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10 hours ago, Dalx said:
If Adena drop back to lvl.76 elemental zones, the problem with Adena farmers will move there.
These zones will be unplayable. Only characters who are only interested in leveling play there like this.
This is not a solution. The solution is new zones for farmers, or densification of mobs in the current onesThen no newbies would be able to level up elemental at all. As it is right now the elemental areas that drop adena are packed. Even if a room is empty it's inevitable that the "owner" will show up and gank you.
Once again one of the core issues is that Ncsoft removed all the downsides of PKing years ago. Predictably the big farmers have perma reds that are +80 with better gear than a legit/new player would have. I've tried to fight them but they are rocking OEed S grade weapons and gear so I died in 2-4 shots with my A grade stuff. The best was the level 85 red that almost one shot me... -
On 7/20/2023 at 1:21 PM, kes1 said:
besides that game is hardcore grind and p2w u have to tolarate and fight versus botting which ncsoft ignores it or punish certain players.
its an adrenalin fiesta. one of the few l2 regions that is so wide spread.
Indeed it's quite difficult to do the level +85 stuff due to the amount of damage the mobs give out and how much HP they have. So basically you have to p2w items along with some bot software it seems (for adding/removing buffers and healing properly etc). Since I refuse to do anything contrary to the ToS I'm stuck using auto hunt and repeating macros to try to keep up. I don't know if I'll ever be able to do something like TOI even as a titan...
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8 hours ago, Connex said:
it was a rhetorical question..
I viewed my response as expanding on your concept while addressing concerns/questions others might have.
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On 6/23/2023 at 8:50 AM, Combatmuggins said:
So I have been on naia server for a few years alot of time and money put into my char's ,
I gave classic a go when it went live and gave up when I got to xp at alligator island I think the mobs were agro there so always got a pty wipe ,I was going to give it another go with a spoiler(if it still spoils or they nerfed the crap out of it),crafter,dagger,se and bd . Is it worth it to invest in the classic servers again(saw comments on forum classic is kinda dead) or stay in naia .
The NOS spawns get utterly stupid in alligator island. I have legit had almost 30 of them spawn on me....
Unfortunately my 78 maestro is my shop character and the only reason I haven't rerolled the bounty hunter is because it has provoke which I find useful. Also I'm kind of stubborn because when I started my main party shots were still craftable and tradeable so the dorf was a mobile warehouse for supplies lol.
So I wouldn't recommend a dwarf anything if you're serious about wanting to be optimal.
"worth it" is a very relative concept and I'm unable to help you there. You can try and see for yourself or maybe give us more information about what you value and are looking for experience wise in game. -
At least some spell books drop from mobs as I've gotten a variety of them from various locations. You get one random spell book when you hit 40. You can also have a chance to get a spell book by doing the daily abyss dungeon in Aden.
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6 hours ago, Connex said:
is it worth investing 400$ on a steam deck or more, ( ROG Ally) just for L2? I literally use old refurbished pc's that cost 80$, all you need is at least a 2nd gen i5, an SSD and 8 GB ram for the game.
At the start of classic I was using small form factor HP/compaq business machines I bought off ebay. All of them were i5s with one 2500 sandy bridge and the rest 3470 and 3470s models with 4gb ram and integrated graphics. A couple of them had HDDs that were dying but it was good enough for one client (anything above 3 clients was painful). Giving them 8GB ram allowed for 5 clients to run "decently" with optimization. When I slapped some HD7570 1GB gddr5 cards that I bought for $9 each (ebay) it made 5 clients without optimization possible.
I upgraded one of the i5-3470 systems to an i7-3770 with 16gb ram a gt1030 2gb gddr5 card and a $21 new SP 512GB SSD (on amazon). That machine runs 10 clients without optimization pretty well although the orc event does get laggy. I wouldn't recommend a gt1030 these days unless you can get one for super cheap and make sure it's not a ddr3 model as they are significantly slower. I only bought the gt1030 because it was 2019 and SFF had mostly expensive options. A rx6400 is VASTLY better and not much more expensive than a gt1030 new. I recently assembled an i7 3770 SFF system for my sister's young kids and the rx6400 in it gives almost 2x the FPS of the gt1030.
I still have one of the i5-3470 machines running with 16gb ram and another Silicon Power 512gb ssd with a hd7570 still. It runs 9 clients pretty well but it's clear the GPU is limiting it and the CPU aint happy with that much load (4 cores but only 4 threads). So optimization is the name of the game for some of the clients. The 8 threads of an i7 would help but a better GPU would help more.
I recently assembled a machine to replace my old fx6300 system (mobo issue). Bought a dell optiplex 7010 motherboard (773VG) off ebay for $16.32 shipped and a xeon e3-1230 SR00H for $12.71 shipped. Tossed that into the case of the fx6300 system and hooked everything up. It has a generic HP 8gb ddr3 (1600) stick and two ripjaws 4gb (1333) in it and it's running the ripjaws in dual channel fine while still using that single 8gb stick. It's kind of amazing but OEMs do mix memory stick sizes and such (6gb setups etc). Ran it 24 hours with prime 95 and it's been running a week straight with 10 clients no errors. It does get mad that there's no front panel connector, no case temp sensor or back case fan hooked up but F1 gets past that at boot up (I have plans to fix this for cheap). In benchmarks the i7-3770 CPU is about 3% faster simply because the i7 clocks about 300mhz higher. I'm planning to buy another xeon for my i5-3470 system since they are WAY cheaper than an i7-3770.
So while I might not of directly answered your question I think I at least provided something of value with my examples. Some could be cheaper alternatives unless you need the steamdeck or ROG ally for something else. -
Oh man I think I remember that post by Eddie. It was sometime in the first year of classic and it covered basically all my complaints.
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On 6/27/2023 at 3:53 AM, Poooky said:
It has been more than a few times next target action targets mobs thru the walls and now your toon if forever trying to kill the mob thru the wall but you cannot! Then you are stuck on the wall and all your time is wasted if you do not move your toon back to the middle of the room. Only to find an hour later you are stuck on the wall again.
The mobs in the next room should not be target able. Please fix. Thanks
This has been a thing with next target since the early days. Accidentally targeting a mob through the walls of SODA when using nexttarget was super annoying..
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14 hours ago, Mete said:
meh, lineage 2 runs fine on $200 mini pcs, considering the amount of money people spend on this game I am sure $200 for 3 clients is not an expense that will scare anybody...Poor people though, you are screwed
If that's too rich for your blood you can buy SFF business machines off ebay for $50 each and just stack them. They use less than 90 watts from the wall each. I bought a stack of them and used USB numkey pads to run a party on classic in the early days before repeating macros/auto hunt. Then there's the software solutions...
I do find it kind of funny that I bought 4 copies of the game and paid for four clients for years and now I find out I cannot even use all of them with one machine now? -
9 hours ago, Scorpio said:
Hi, I don't understand what is the problem right now?
Valakas necklace already exists and works, now there was an error somewhere and the necklace from the event is different, so it should be enough to set it as the previous one, which as far as I know, it works even without restarting the server (that is, if someone wants to, right?).
It's 2023 and the same mistakes are being made over and over again...
The only developers left working on lineage2 are in Korea and they consider us to be barely worth their time. So I wouldn't be surprised if the fix takes a week or longer..
The whole thing is something that would of been found quickly with even a cursory QA check. Hopefully they'll spend a few minutes to make sure the rest of the boxes and items are working properly.. -
I started Lineage 2 live in closed beta. So I've played the game off and on since then (mostly off due to life). By the time C4 had rolled around I was up to 4 monthly paid accounts. I started classic day one because I wanted the early days experience. The joy of leveling with my wolf as I used the manor system to get myself going. The simply joy of running through several rooms in a necro/cata on my dwarf as part of a pole party. In hindsight I got waaay too much enjoyment out of perfectly landing a train and the visual of all those fragment drops. Now a dwarf is dead weight and all those areas I leveled in don't even exist...
I started classic day one because I figured "well at least maybe they'll add some of the content they removed and at least it's somewhat close of an experience on a legal server". My group ended up expanding to a full 9 man party because I kept wanting to experience classes I missed in the live server's early days. Outside of everything people listed above the experience was decent. I got to experience some of that early day server style PVP and such. By the time my group started hitting 80 though things had changed dramatically. People were quitting due to the Pay to Win that was being introduced. That meant a lot of rage quitter reds running around ganking just to gank. The "update" to make perma reds have no real downside didn't help. At 80 one death eliminated 7 days of 24 hour grinding. The good (relative as I consider it crap still) adena spots were just a slaughterfest forcing me to run in the dark corners of the "don't support 1 shot usage" adena areas. So even though I was 80 I didn't have the gear to go to any of the spots I was supposed to go. The only people who had the ability to go to those areas were those using bots and/or the recently blatantly P2W stuff. When I started experiencing random disconnects I decided it was time to move on. Nostalgia had hit a limit and I dipped for a few years.
I recently came back a few months ago and I have not been able to even level my main characters (the 80 squad). This time it was because any spot I could run is already taken by someone with reds that are higher level than me. The gank system is just as terrible as when I quit. So I've been busying myself with lower level characters because I can at least still find places to level and feel something from the game. The only reason I've been able to get to 76 is because of a handful of people on my server who keep rooms available for newbies in cruma. One fellow in particular does an excellent job of keeping SV clear of farmers for me to at least have one character leveling past 76. Otherwise I imagine trying to do the class change quest at 76 would be an absolute nightmare. The recent events have done an excellent job of catching me up to the bare minimum of "baseline" in p2w items.
My simple request is please put the content back in. All that fun stuff that existed in the real lineage 2 classic that was removed for no apparent reason.
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On 5/31/2023 at 10:37 PM, BraveSoul said:
Although we appreciate the attendance gifts and they do help new players and our buffers which we use to play with.. alone.. we always look forward for a interactive event that makes us play together and have fun. Ofcourse, we didnt get that ...
You keep sticking to your mobile game model... there are players but we never see them, you open your missions few times a day and check back now and then to see if someone said something dumb in world shout. Put auto hunt on and go play something else.
Give us some live play.. enough with the boxes and afk solo missions! Even the Tiger brainwashing event was a breath of fresh air.
There is plenty of content you can take from the other servers and implement for us.Last time I looked the mobile gaming market accounted for the vast majority of Ncsoft's income. So this all lines up with what Ncsoft has chosen to focus on. All the changes to the UI and gameplay have been towards a mobile style gameplay experience.
I love how I came back to classic after being gone for a few years and I'm still 80 because I'm struggling to find a clear spot to level that isn't gankland. On top of that the "event" for me is to log in and click accept as the whole grape thing is well beyond my capability.
I still dream the dream I had on day one of classic. The dream that Ncsoft would add back all the stuff they removed from the real version of the game. Right now we have less in game than we had in like c3 or c4? Just re-adding all the removed content would do wonders for the game. Also it's kind of remarkable how many large sections of the map is completely devoid of anything.
I love how I've tried to post this 6x now and it's refused every time. Even the forums are badly configured/coded...-
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Confused on L2 Coin
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L2coin drops from mobs that drop adena at an extremely low rate capped at like 100 a day. IT used to be higher like 300 and a much higher rate of drop. So you missed all those nerfs.
You buy the L2coin pack in the ncoin store.