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exactly

They fixed rates at those areas... The posts i made were before they do that

1. You didnt read my post and if you did delete this game its better for you to do 2. I play l2 since 2005 mister ''0 experience''. 3 Saying that need adena for soulshots after you read my post says it all You shouldnt have the right to express your opinion. Only thing you do is cry and cry. Only way you will ever gain something for yourself is when someone else toss in on your legs. Like a dog. Pray and beg more while doing nothing productive

I know why people are complaining, i used to complain too a while ago. But I undestand why rates are like this and they should remain like this Increase adena rates = Adena sellers will sell adena lower price = Prices at items will increace = Nothing changes Increase spoil/drop rates = Items will worth less = Nothing changes Combine those two and you will have tones of adena and cheap items. Drops will worth nothing and prices at b+ grade will go to hell. The rmt players who are ahead (and not all of them are botters - most of them are not) will farm easier sets/jewels etc etc to sell in rmt sites to rich pixel warriors who will pay anything to be ahead. Adena rates stay the same = Adena in server dont increace much = economy is (more) stable Spoil/drop rates stay the same = a player need to actually trade for the things he wants not just farm for 2h and done, and also find other ways to make adena (farming is only 35-40% of the adena i made so far btw) I made around 40kk. Im not even focused mainly on adena. I didnt know how to do it. I dont play the market at all. I just play crafter/spoiler/pp If i was focused only on adena, knew how classic works and played market i could be 100kk+ easily This game isnt only about adena, you can get tones of parts/drops/mats farming and sell them up too 500k if its armor/weap top c parts (even mid in case of plated leather), you can get advantage of many things like item demand and make profit just by sitting in town or farm at the proper spot. As a guy said in another forum, it works like real life here too. And seeing so many people being poor in a server full of opportunities (and i can say ITS EZ AS FAK), then i undestand why economy is shit in real life too... Most people are just lazy to think. Not all spots are made for mages, not all spots are made for fighters, mob level has nothing to do with adena quantity, Some areas are good for adena, others good for parts, others good for spoils, others good for xp. As a spoiler im farming 50lvl mobs that drop 100-200 adena but the items i spoil from them worth 270,000 adena atm. And i just need 30-40 min to get 1-2 + they drop other nice items as well. Thats just an example. If you spend your adena paying overpriced items, farming at wrong places, farning without buffer or cp/party and use xp scrolls every day what you think will happend? How you will make adena if it takes you 10 minites and 500 ss to kill a mob because you still have d grade weapon at 45+??? The more you progress the more adena you make. Progress isnt level, progress = gear. Gear = less ss spent to kill + faster kill = more adena/drops per h. They more you level up using xp scrolls the harder game will be and you will hit a wall. The more you farm using 0 xp scrolls, the easier and more classic game will be. You can use your scrolls when you find opportunity to do so. Sorry for my bad english

You guys realise that drops/adena dont scale just because they want slow down top dogs (aka-some of them-rmters)? I myself as a nolifer grind machine i saw half areas that i used to farm getting fixed AFTER most people rich the level to grind there. Like FT+ant nest. Guess what? If i did farm with current rates i would be rich now ingame (compairing most people). Already with nerfed rates i made around 25 million at aden server and im not even focused mainly on adena. Imagine what an rmter could do if 60+ areas were all fixed. Ncwest would lose so much revenue. They dont sell weapons/armor/adena at store, but rmters DO. If want normal rates at all areas, prepare for p2w items in store and a fight between l2store-adena sellers for who will sell at better price like it happends on live servers. I know i was there for years.. I know its SAD but thats how it is... All i can say is that people are always the problem. People sell adena to rmters so they can resell them to other people higher price. People create bots to be ''superior'' and progress faster in game. People destroy market by dropping prices without a reason at items that have demand, believing that this will cause people to buy them faster. People want to make a life out of a game designed to make you have fun. If everyone wanted just to have fun, none of this would exist.

You guys realise that drops/adena dont scale just because they want slow down top dogs (aka-some of them-rmters)? I myself as a nolifer grind machine i saw half areas that i used to farm getting fixed AFTER most people rich the level to grind there. Like FT+ant nest. Guess what? If i did farm with current rates i would be rich now ingame (compairing most people). Already with nerfed rates i made around 25 million at aden server and im not even focused mainly on adena. Imagine what an rmter could do if 60+ areas were all fixed. Ncwest would lose so much revenue. They dont sell weapons/armor/adena at store, but rmters DO. If want normal rates at all areas, prepare for p2w items in store and a fight between l2store-adena sellers for who will sell at better price like it happends on live servers. I know i was there for years.. I know its SAD but thats how it is... All i can say is that people are always the problem. People sell adena to rmters so they can resell them to other people higher price. People create bots to be ''superior'' and progress faster in game. People destroy market by dropping prices without a reason at items that have demand, believing that this will cause people to buy them faster. People want to make a life out of a game designed to make you have fun. If everyone wanted just to have fun, none of this would exist.

You are not a beta tester. They know exactly how they will get your money https://forums.lineage2.com/topic/7997-the-truth/?tab=comments#comment-63168

1. You start the game, you see so many people, progress is nice, wow those yummy drops too. Dopamine kicks in. Everything is THE SAME as l2wiki. Rates, drops, spoils... You have that sweet feeling you used to have years ago... When l2 was actually the king of all games. You say why not support this? No p2w items in store... Just xp scrolls and soulshots. Rates are fine, everything is correct so lets pay for vip. 2. 35+ Something is not right ... Adena/drops/spoils seems to be decreased by 400-1500% depends on area ofc. You spend hours and hours to get parts for that helmet. But its ok... Its hardcore l2 anyway. 2. You are now officially an addict. You are 43+ and finally get this yammy 7million worth c grade weapon. Dopamine again kicks in. You cant go to sleep, just want start grinding and make trillions of adena in a second. Everyone in server knows that you got that weapon. Just a couple of ewc and you will be a godlike ninja butcher machine. 3. You realise now that with current rates, you spend most of your adena on ssc. Dopamine effects goes off.. What is this? Server out of materials? Oh wait ... I have to spoil... But mobs give 1-1 mat no matter level... And ssc costs alot ... 4. You realise that after a point (with current rates always) you cant solo anymore (too low adena to even try) unless you get silver coins from vip + buy ssc from store (dont worry they will add them very soon). 5. You have 3 options now: a) Be Vip 4 and farm like a bot, ofc the amount of time you spent will mean nothing after the next ''drop/adena/spoil fix'' b) Stay all day afk and resell items (the opposite of actually PLAYING the game + boring as f$ck + - Only addicts + rmters will do that + most people dont even know single maths to do that) to generate adena, but expect a dead server within a year c) Unistall again And dont worry... We didnt even hit the wall yet

I payed 10$ for vip 2 at 20 level. I loved the game and it felt like old days. Was planning increace my vip to 3 this month and get vip 2 at my crafter too. Sadly i will not do this, and i will stop paying any money for this game. Not a single $ They add events, xp boosts etc but no adena/drops/spoils. So actually i payed for 10 levels and then ..... Well 80% of adena made i spent them on ssd after level 30-35.... I am 43 lvl spoiler / 39 lvl crafter / 42 lvl prophet AND I STILL FARM FOR C WEAPON. I would make more adena just by lvling up chars... And yes i made more than half a million just crafting for people. And yes i resell too. But i want play my MAIN. I want play spoil-craft i love this and the sieges in this game nothing else. No more...

Guys spoil is broken after OB for rmt reasons. Will be fixed soon, now many people are 40 and spoil areas will be full ... They dont want rmters to take over areas being 10 lvl ahead and full of adena i guess.. Sad because it affects my game too cuz im spoiler and i leveled up for nothing.. I understand why they did it, but i wll never support them again because i payed for vip for NOTHING. Just to go 40 and after 15 days of vip wasted because adena/spoil rates dont work. (Some are rates 1500-2000% less than l2wiki)

There is no future if they dont increase adena rate. Actually one archer with c grade bow spend more adena on ssc than the adena he gets from mobs hahahaha. He needs like 5 ssc per hit ? Spoil rates .... C/B grade items will cost so much with current rates and no adena on server so .. RMT paradise

Thank you!

What about this????? Adena increase is nothing alone. Price of mats will go up, price at weapon/armor parts same thing. C grade items need lots of materials and they are rare. I saw server (Aden) running out of varnish 3 days ago.... Only one overpriced shop at dion. And all mobs drop 1-1 mats at spoils

Was wondering about this. Is it about damage done? Or just being in party decrease rate? Still -10% is nothing

I hope so but i dont think so