Thanks Miss Helmina for your thoughts. I played L2-C4 a long time ago (10+) and it was fun. I enjoyed the PVE grind and exploring the world as well as the PVP castle sieges. I a casual player, looking for a clan to join to chat and hang out with some people when I am online. Are there newbie clans or does everyone expect you to be maxed out before they invite you to join?