Joebob

A few tips: Weapon SAs should be Fire and Death. Normal crit damage increases dagger damage. Your element is quite high for TOI level 1. You might be able to trade weapon elemental attack for damage elsewhere. Attack element damage for TOI 1 caps at 1530. Anymore element above that for TOI 1 does not increase your damage. As a dagger, a level 110 POM Iss increases your damage by 56.25% just from POM alone. I recommend any dagger have an alt POM iss and gear it enough to tank for you. They can debuff and give you angels. Unless you one shot everything, angels is pretty important. They can also pull agro with AOEs so you can rear stab mobs in TOI (if your iss is strong enough). If you're not using a mouse macro, use one. It's mandatory for TOI. With a mouse macro you can land rear stabs. Without a mouse macro it's nearly impossible. With a mouse macro, your kill speed anywhere will increase significantly. All of your stabs should be using /useskillforce (even if you're using a mouse macro). This will stop you from doing auto attacks which increases your stabs per second. (Careful not to PK people) Besides those, just keep upgrading gear efficiently over time. There's no shortcut to being able to do TOI 1. Just takes time to get strong enough. It doesn't feel that long ago where I couldn't do TOI 1. Now I can do TOI 8 easily. Gluck.

Even if they never respond (and they probably won't) it's still worth it to complain and ask. If no one ever complained, we would definitely never see any changes.

If we got the cookies as a bonus like we originally thought, I stand by my post. They would have just been a bonus to opening loot boxes. However, we don't get bonus cookies and they're not tradeable so you need to open a ton of boxes just to get a single 5% chance craft. Otherwise you just get some overpriced mediocre pots. It's just sad and depressing.

Even if the list had all stage 3 god jewels, stage 3 DW and lvl 10 wings, it wouldn't matter because no one is pulling those big ticket items from loot boxes. If you are expecting to get those items from a loot box to make it worth it then you are truly gambling the lottery and dreaming of a fantasy world where everyone wins the lottery. Looking at it from a statistical value, we know the rates to get these items are incredibly like. Like 0.0000001% chance low. A 5T adena item with a 0.0000001% chance statistically increases the average value of a loot box by 5,000 adena. So why do you care what the big ticket items are? They are only there as click bait items. Just like the jackpot items on a slot machine. So, loot boxes have value from the average of the items that you get. I don't usually pay for loot box events because I can't calculate the value of opening a box, but, the one event where I opened 700 boxes, the total value of the items I got was 55% over the going adena/ncoin rate. That event was profitable for me and I only pulled one item worth more than 8b adena and it was only worth 34b adena. I received lots of crap consumables and no big ticket items. Most of the value came from the items in the middle. Is this anecdotal evidence? Yes, but I haven't seen anyone provide any evidence to the contrary. I see so many people complain "all I get is worthless consumables!" but that's an blatant exaggeration. Yes, everyone gets a lot of consumables because the chance to get them is high, but people need to actually post all of what they're getting, calculate the total value of all items received, divide that value by the total NCoin spent and post it to the forum to prove to NCSoft that we're getting screwed. I don't recall ever seeing this happen. If we had a mega thread where people posted what they got and calculated the total value divided by NCoin spent, that would give power to sway events in the right direction. I'm sure NCSoft is just ignoring all the complaints at this point because it's the same complaints every event. This loot box event is probably even better than the average loot box event. There are brand new GK heaven/epic talisman enchants, dragon claws, advanced stable +16 to 18 scrolls, DW augment stones. All highly sought after and will sell easily.

If anything the loot box haul during this event is probably better than other loot box events because there are two rare items in there that won't be super low rates: gran kain heavenly/epic scrolls and cloak +16 to 18 scrolls. The latter will be rare but no where near as rare as god lv3 jewels. Both of these will sell for a lot.

You don't base the value of boxes on of the 0.000000000000001% chance items. You base them on everything you get. Sure, you get a lot of consumables, but you also get other stuff. Saying you only get consumables is a major exaggeration and is not helpful to the discussion. It's basically impossible to know the box value when we don't know the rates. I'm not saying the event is good but we can't say the event is bad without knowing the rates. Buying loot boxes is truly a gamble. What we should be complaining about is their inability to value items. Why is the dragon claws cost 3x the sayha 9 cost? That makes no sense.

Correct, however, FSs still do more front facing damage than adventurers in pve from my calculations comparing the different skills heh

You can't make this comparison. That 216,000 ncoin nets you 1 claw and 300 opened boxes. Saying it costs $2,700 per claw is misleading because you're not including the value of the items from those boxes. I'm not saying that this event isn't bad but it's very hard to judge a box event because we don't know the rates of the items in the boxes. However, considering the dragon claws cost 3x a sayha 9 through cookies though, that does tell you that the rates are out of wack.

1) I guess it's situational but DV for me + my buffer is better XP than a max xp beast farm party, so I'll take the extra hp (which is more than 30k hp for me) to be able to do DV. Plus, in the long run you'll be leaving a lot of HP on the table. Your 30k hp increase will increase as you level and get more gear. 2) I would think the obvious reason is that there aren't many +30 weapons out there due to the difficulty in making them. Also, R110 weapons can be exchanged for higher value bows or cutters. Meanwhile, DWs can't be exchanged so DW daggers cost significantly less than other DWs. 3) You might be right, or might not. The previous and only flood of DWs was during last year's slayer event. We all know how it's going this year. But again, a +30 weapon is a dead end weapon. I'm not planning on quitting anytime soon so I'll stick with the more future proofed and cheaper weapon and spend the significant cost difference elsewhere in the meantime. 4) You're probably right but 99% of the player base can't afford a +30 weapon either. Don't underestimate that 999 element though. With my current gear, that 999 element would boost my damage about 25% by capping element in 124 zones and also allow me to switch element off gear like armor augs for % patk. I should be able to get another ~20% damage that way for a total of around 50% damage. Not to mention the weapon patk increase. I would think that's pretty huge.

Adventurer is the one class that gets a boost to face stabs. See Critical Tactics skill description: "Increases ... Critical Damage from the front and back by 50%". GH and WR get the massive nerf to face stabs.

These are the reasons I use st1 DW dual daggers: 1) A DW is necessary to break the HP cap for higher level zones. I can barely handle DV with a DW but if I was using r110 daggers I'm pretty sure I would die due to the HP cap. 2) Also, stg 1 DW dual daggers are much cheaper than +30 r110. You should be able to make up the damage difference spending the money elsewhere. 3) R110 weapons will likely only lose value over time, DWs have been increasing in value since they dropped to affordable levels last year. 4) DWs are upgradeable, r110 weapons are not. st2 DW dual daggers are far superior to +30 r110 due mostly to the 999 element.

Blood Stab, Chain Blow, and Reverse Mana all have different animations for single and dual daggers for humans. Single dagger animations are all 10x cooler :(. Especially reverse mana with a behind the back spin.

I tested the stab speed of shaper vs dual dagger. In my test I did as many stabs as possible in 60 seconds. The results showed 89 stabs with dual dagger and 90 stabs with single dagger. Therefore, there's no difference skill animation speed.

Why would you say Fortune Seeker is better than Adventurer for pvp?

I don't really expect a response. I'm sure that they know that this event was not a hit. I'm sure they see that their revenue from this event is low when they expected more. It's obvious even to us when the adena/NCoin has dropped from 16 adena/NCoin during a good event down to 12 adena/NCoin looking at current scroll buy/sell values. What I really want is that they see this post and understand why this event failed and the data I provided above shows why. I just really hope that they take a good look at it and are surprised by it. I really don't want to believe that they set the rates from this event with the intent to screw us. I also posted this in the hopes that more people see how bad the value of enchanting dragon slayers is this time around so that less people gamble on enchanting. Even if you have 120 luc and get scrolls for 45m each, you're still going to statistically pay higher than market value for anything on the list. When was the last time an event provided an adena/NCoin value under 12?