Hyperlite
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i dont think they will reverse any purchase with ncoin or hero coin.
blown up item, yea. could be wrong on hero coin, but ncoin im 100% sure they wont reverse.
edit: well not 100%, but they didnt reverse anything i asked for ncoin purchase wise. they did restore the item in question in the same ticket.
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file a ticket for item restoration. might be quicker for a response.
i find as long as you're polite and explain well in tickets, it goes a long way for the gm to help. at least in my encounters with restoration of items etc.
i doubt they reverse hero coin purchases.
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43 minutes ago, LordDragnil said:
Please, enlighten me what does "vr" means?
Vampiric Rage
Where you recover a portion of damage inflicted as health.
Old buff the shillien elder had.
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3 hours ago, Draecke said:
btw @Juji Korea fixed server transfers so maybe time to ask them to send you the how-to instructions ? more info is on the above discord channel, you know which & where
Sweet baby Jesus this
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4 hours ago, crunchyblack21 said:
So yeah the appeal for me is the idler style gameplay, im stuck working from home and most idler games are predictable and shallow. At least theres some sociability with long standing parties, some pvp to spice things up (me looking over and seeing the party is all dead I guess is pvp?) So yeah flawed game for sure but still fun.
Thank you everyone who gave some details into my questions.
Just to keep what I feel is a VERY useful discussion going, as its impossible to find this info elsewhere....
I want to get into this "must spend $50-$100 a month" info a bit more. I see things listed as must have like XP scrolls...don't care ill keep the game on over night and im not going to reach max level...right? So cut that off my required monthly spending. Some of the math behind the dollar amounts given seem to be me going from zero to hero in one purchase...again don't need that, I don't need max weapon ect. Just enough to maybe do the autofarming in an area I can get drops if possible is the goal really.
Don't quite understand this 30 day jewel pack I need either, by default I don't rent items in game...I just wont do it, if im paying for pixels im keeping them or not spending.
Realistically, if im getting this...I need to spend money to upgrade my free gear to a point where I can get in game gear then I need to upgrade that...right? So is it impossible, not hyperbole or make believe because you hate the game ect, is it impossible to get a group of 105 people with default gear and actually go get some good gear? Again I don't mind tossing the devs a few bucks for the game, I have leftover ncoin from some ancient purchase I never used anyway ect.
All im trying to do here is cut through the BS behind the pay2win...yeah its pay2win and im sure I could spend $10k a day and still be fighting a gm on an account meant to spur wallet warriors to spend....but I don't care about all that, I just want normal gameplay.
So if im looking at maybe upgrading one set or just the basic enchants to a acceptable level...it cant possibly be $50 a month, looking at the cash shop maybe a normal subscription fee amount seems enough to slowly progress me...anyone disagree with that? Really I just need to get a weapon drop in game and spend a bit enchanting that and with that I can get my armor ect by playing right?
to get into the 50-100 a month and the packs i referenced, you need to understand gear in L2 a little better:
that rare accessory pack costs 25 bucks a month. It contains Blessed Valakas Necklace, Lindvior Earring, Blessed Antharas Earring, Tauti Ring, Earth Wyrm Ring and a CoC belt. To put those into perspective, B Vala is 65 Bil to buy on market, Lindvior is also 65 bil, Blessed Anthy is around 30-40 bil, Tauti and Earth Wyrm are about 10 bil each, CoC belt is about 40-50 bil. Putting that into cash value at the NCoin rate, youre approaching well over a grand. This is why I mentioned the rare acc pack.
Why are they so expensive you might ask? Simple answer: supply and demand, plus 1-2 clans farm all the epic world bosses and control those epic jewels. They also get crushed to make god jewels. they also cant be obtained every single day because world bosses are on a cooldown. I can go into the history about how these items evolved but it doesnt really matter. The game is balanced to players having some type of epic accessories now, and thewyre always been extremely rare and limited. This is an extremely cheap upgrade and why many consider it part of their monthly expense. I recommend logging in and looking at the auction house and reading the item descriptions of what i just listed. They are pretty game changing for your character in their stats/bonuses compared to not having them.
Do you need them? maybe, maybe not. depends on what YOU want to do.
You can afk solo mobs and have little to no social interaction by spending nothing. If you want some social aspect, or to get a change of scenery in game and see stuff, you'll probably need to spend a little bit unless you dont mind xp'ing blazing swamp for months on end.
Regarding upgrading gear. you don't exactly upgrade the same weapon over and over like other games. You can upgrade R99 and R110 to Bloody/Dark and you can upgrade your R99 to R110, but its extremely expensive. People upgrade gear by crafting and enchanting. You craft by farming the mats in areas after 105. a +12 Bloody R99 weapon with mid SA's will be the same wep you use until you quit if you want it to be and its around 20-30bil depending on weapon type. You can also go the tauti weapon route, shadow weapon route, theres a handful of options all at different price points. you can also stick with the exalted wep and see how it goes, but the exalted wep is pretty bad.
Enchanting gear is the way you can upgrade, but you can break your item and have nothing as well. I'd suggest reading about enchanting before doing it. When armor sets get +8/9/10 they get additional set bonuses. For example, earlier i mentioned +8 r95 leather set gives 10% skill refresh. That set costs around 6-8 bil.
If you dont care about xp speed, drop the destiny pack and prestige. However, there are drop rate increase runes in there too, so keep that in mind since drops are important to you. Prestige rune is pretty good on the bonus it gives too. Same goes for using vitality items.
Lineage 2 is a grind game that is extremely gear driven. What is needed for you to enjoy the game is totally dependant on you and what you want out of it. You seem to like the afk minimal input setup, stated you dont mind spending a little money, and want some social stuff. This game has a lot of min/maxing in it. there are 100s of things to do to upgrade your characters.
final edit: a top limited R110 weapon +12+++ is like 160-250 bil, a dragon weapon is well over a trillion adena. what i'm listing for you isnt even remotely close to top end game gear. im trying to list the cheapest way possible for you to have fun in the game
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also to OP: 100 bucks = 8k NCoin = about 19bil adena. rates on naia is 1 ncoin = 2.3mil adena
take 2k ncoin, buy epic accessory pack. buy destiny pack for 2400 ncoin. thats 30 days worth of stuff. take about 100-200 of that ncoin and buy mysterious shots from store. take rest and try to sell stronghold 1 passes for adena and buy a +8 r95 leather set (assuming u a dd, that gives 10% skill refresh) and you can do just about anything until 107/108 for 100ish bucks and your upgraded exalted weapon.
do you wanna go olympiad or CoC? rare accessory pack doesnt work there, so you will need to farm/invest to do those 2 things.
want another upgrade?, spend another 100 bucks, get 19bil, and buy a ++r99 bloody weapon
now you're ready to basically play the game with a recurring 50-100 buck cost monthly and can do most anything with people.
you can always spend more, just ask players whats best bang for your buck with your current gear before making a large purchase. that most likely will be a pve cap and circlet upgrade, which are p2w items. not "needed" for low lvls, but theyre huge increases especially at the fully upgraded ones. but you do you. hope you enjoy the game.
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5 minutes ago, Sesh2 said:
its a new-player-starting thread....not sure why you mention siege, pvp, raids, instances or anything like that
this new kid will spent 2 weeks trying to graduate as a mentee, unless he/she gets plvl'd
then the kid will spend his life watching a macro play for him, since there are no live groups
no1 will take him in a pve instance unless he pays for a +12 weapon, so don't even talk about pvp
its called being realistic, not doom and gloom...some of y'all kidz need a slap back to reality
2 months ago i was 105/103 before i came back. today im 110/105 and purely bought vit packs and im almost top 50 on naia. its not impossible, he has to understand what he wants.
i dont necessarily disagree with your points , they just dont apply to everyone. and the elitist attitude happens from elitists, not 6-7 randoms trying to do altar of shillen or something. they fill their parties and try, and sometimes fail.
we can agree to disagree. coming back and seeing more peple i used to know in game coming back as well its a positive thing in my opinion. you think the game is too far gone for a new player, thats fine too. we both passed our opinions on to the new guy and he can decide himself.
for all you know, 1-2k startup cost could be in his budget and you may have a new elite geared player to have on the server. worst case is he tries it and quits which does nothing aside from adding 1 more person and maybe their friends to the server to try it out. you can be a realist without making the game looking completely offsetting. we need new players, especially players willing to spend a little in the cash shop to keep the servers up.
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5 hours ago, Sesh2 said:
actually you are wrong...there really isn't much to do after 105 or before
unless you like running 3 instances everyday.....the same instances the players ran for years before they were updated to higher level lol
its fun doing a quest to kill 40k monsters 3 times in a row? let me know how many soulshots/spiritshots you have left after you finish #3 lol
at the end of the day, the game plays itself for you with a macro....most of the old-school players left a long time ago
so if you think you will enjoy spending $ and massive amounts of your life to kill monsters, have fun
if you want to spend thousands of $ to pvp and siege....good game, but you already lost b4 it started
ive played since prelude. there has never been any quests that gave anything meaningful aside from black papyrus back form ToI and a few other random things.
after 105, what is there of the game (siege, pvp, group play, raid, instances, social aspects pf meeting people go up, join a clan, find a constant party, xp in a non lag infested hell hole called blazaing swamp, etc) all exist after 105.
just because u arent happy with where the game has ended up today doesnt mean its a bad game. it means you probably need to look for a new game as opposed to staying, playing and posting on forums a bunch of negative crap.
being an old school player myself, there are quite a few coming back due to the failed thing called classic. the queue's on naia are not just due to mentees.
as always, there are doom and gloom ppl here. you clearly are one of them by reading your posts. hopefully you have a nice day.
edit: also to the OP, please remember. u dont "need" all of the elite top end items. plenty of people survive and enjoy the game without them. the question will always come down to are you happy with what you can currently do. ncoin to adena is a legal and easy way to gear your char. you may have a 50 dollar start up or a 500/1000 dollar start up. all depends on your personal tastes and wants.
at the end fo the day, toss 50-100 into it for 30 days and re-assess after those 30 days. people here crying have been crying here for years upon years and theyre still here playing. take that for whatever you want it to be worth OP.
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If u relog, it should be next to you. Try re-summoning.
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You are correct in that there is a ton of stuff to do after 105. People in this thread are also correct in stating money is required to play.
What you need to decide is what you want out of this game.
For normal Pve, if u don't care about speed and fighting other players, you can probably get by with 50ish usd a month. Prestige, epic boss jewel 30 day pack, xp rune pack is right around 50-75 or so. Add in random other purchases, and Yea I'll be average pay 2 play player spends 100 a month.
If you want to pvp actively, this is a huge loaded question too. Olympiad and CoC, where insane gear is absolutely needed to win (but not compete and have fun). Not everyone has 40 grand in their characters, but a handful of people do. Then there is siege and raid pvp. To be a factor in those, you'll probably need to drop some money into the game in the land of 200-1000, how much depends on your own needs/wants.
People who say u can't do anything in exalted gear are just being elitists. There are plenty of low/mid geared 105-107s running around.
My advice, try the game out and put minimal money in at 1st. Buy the 30 day destiny pack for xp runes, the boss jewel pack, and toss prestige on for a month and give it 30 days.
To your comment about drops. Full drops come from raiding or crafting. You get drops to craft when u hunt monsters. You also get Aden treasure chests. That's where drops come from. Mostly u craft or buy on market from top clans who farm raids.
At the end of the day, the game is a ton of fun. All us old school players are still here. Some spend more than others. If you find a good clan of friendly people it can make life more fun.
Also, I didn't read your class, but the snobbiness about gear is mainly for dd's. +12 bloody r99 is kind of the norm for what the game is geared towards. If youre a healer or iss, you'll get taken regardless of gear for most pve things.
Dont mind the trolls, they're heavy here.
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57 minutes ago, Bathgate said:
Revisiting after a long hiatus and quite surprised to see the amount of forum activity on the original servers. Has there been a resurgence? Debating whether to roll on classic or jump on my old toon.
i'm in a similar boat. i came back to play classic about 4-5 months ago, got to 81, then left and came back to retail on my old toon because classic is a hot mess right now. its nothing like "old l2" aside from having 32 classes, 9 man parties and the old d-s gear.
id recommend playing retail, but both will get content updates soon id assume. retail should be in a few weeks.
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32 minutes ago, Draecke said:
This, as explained a long time ago to you Juji this is something of which there will always be a demand for and removing / limiting the ability to customize a chars appearance is just a no no for online games.. heck for most online games that's how their business model is build around..
exactly
not to mention that armor and accessory appearance items still exist. they just ninja removed the blessed wep app items the same time they announced that they would be removed, hence preventing anyone from using a scroll and saving their appearance item thats impossible to get in game anymore.
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just want server xfer to get on chronos
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yep, it be true
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39 minutes ago, zethera said:
thanks for the update. BTW it clearly states when you login that the Big Vitality packs would be removed last night. So date was provided.
Server settings ended 3/18 as well, but those got extended.
Dont be so daft you can't understand why people are asking about this. Makes you look rather... Trollish...
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Unfortunately, ncsoft hates crafting and the Dwarven classes in general. Live, classic, both classes are sheiks of what they were.
I'll also 2nd the fact that dwarves can't pk anyone ?
Spoiling is basically a waste of time at the moment.
However, the Dwarven race is best for healers from the racial passive.
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1 hour ago, Hime said:
Game servers will be down for maintenance beginning Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 5 a.m. PDT / 7 a.m. CDT / 8 a.m. EDT / 12 p.m. GMT+1 and will be unavailable for approximately 2 hours and 45 minutes
With this maintenance:
- Standard database maintenance and application restarts will be performed.
- Lara’s Day Off event will end. Related event items will be removed from players' inventories.
- The Circlets of Power will no longer be on the L2 Store.
- The Cursed Weapons system will be temporarily disabled for three weeks.
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The special server settings event has been extended for 3 more weeks.
- XP/SP +100%
- Vitality 300%
- No XP Loss Upon Death
- Party Hunting Bonus +50%
- Latency reducing measures are still temporarily implemented.
Other notes:
- The latency issues are persisting despite server hardware upgrades. We are working with the Dev team on a new solution. Compensation will be determined after we have verified the issue has been resolved.
If you have any questions about the changes taking place during this maintenance, please feel free to post them on the forums. We also encourage you to follow @LineageIIOps for maintenance and server status updates.
will you extend the 4k vitality maint pack as well?
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What does Circlet Upgrade Stone Pack contain?
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1 hour ago, iAndouille said:
60 LUC is nothing nowadays hahahah, if u still think there's a cap it means u never enchanted anything to try it
i would say the cap now is around 85-90 LUC , starting at 80 it start to pop way more often.
made a +8 r110 set on 68 luc in about 15 mins 1 week ago with relatively no issues and maybe 30 bucks of ncoin with multiple lady luck procs. also made my 12 r110 daggers 13 with same luc.
ive been away for a while, but ive read nothing official on korean, eu, ru or anything else for that matter that states anything on how luc matters to enchants changing. not saying your wrong, just saying i prefer to read a test than player's opinions on game mechanics.
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9 hours ago, TEVAS said:
this eu test waz done 5~ years ago
things changed a lot
i'd be interested in seeing the patch notes or live live server test that backs that claim up
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4 hours ago, TEVAS said:
items.. and soft cap waz removed 4-5 updates ago
fair enough on "items"
i dont buy the whole "soft cap removed" stuff. its not in any patch notes i can find and according to the last official test on core, 60 luc is all that matters.
gz on the shirt tho.
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so like, how u get all that luc bro?
also, past 60 luc the amount it helps is basically nullified by a soft cap.
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On 1/29/2020 at 7:37 AM, Aic said:
That happens because mages have 1 option: They use magic skills, so they have m skill crit rate and m skill crit dmg.
Fighters have 2 options: p.critical damage and p. skill critical damage, so they can choose the way they wanna play.Etc all Tyrr's (specially Titan) or an Eviscerator usually plays with p crit damage, instead of all archers that are playing with p.skill crit damage. So:
1. p.crit.rate + p crit.dmg OR
2.p.skill crit rate + p.skill crit.dmg
Roll dagger and both apply to your stabs, problem solved
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im not reading the entire 6 pages, but i thought applied weapon appearances stayed? just the items to change appearance were being removed?
my dual daggers that had dual mamba edge apperance now look like regular r99 bloody daggers...
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you just ruined my day
it was literally 5x the rate pre-patch