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Hi guys

I am currently playing titan as dual class,  and think if it is good to switch to duelist (Only PVE)

items that i got for  my titan are

+12 Bloody R110 Slahser, 3SA, Augment +17% P.Atk Critical Damage

+8 Bloody light set

earth wyrm heart ring, +12 atlas earing, blessed antharas, blesssed valakas, baium soul ring

+4 Ruby, +4 opal, +4 diamond, +4 emerald, +3 red cat

Insanity, 7 sign, Abu Lv1, Protection stage 8, venir stage 16, sayha stage 4

+4 radiant circlet of authority (PVE damage +5% augment)

+10 elmore cloak (PVE damage +5% augment)

Arti book lv 2

Ekimus Belt

rest is just very normal....

 

Comparing Titan and Duelist skills (only compare the unique class skills)

Normal attack:  titan got rage buff, so titan constantly have 35% more P.Atk than Duelist

Skill power: Duelist got Momentum master, so Duelist constanly have 20% more Skill powers.

When fully buffed

Titan: Rage (35%), Frenzy (30%) which is about 65% more P.Atk.

Duelist: Momentum master (20% power), Duelist Wrath (20% power), which is about 40% more sill power.

(Duelist Wrath and Furious Slasher give same P.Atk)

 

I know for normal attack, Titan is way stronger than Duelist. 

Can anyone please give some advice on Duelist skill PVE?

Does Duelist do good skill damage?

How to set up  good Duelist PVE or it never gonna be good in PVE?

Is Duelist skill critical rate good?

Many thanks

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With your setup you're more regular crit dmg and not p.skill crit dmg build. I'd suggest keeping the titan or work more towards a pskill build if you wanted to switch to duelist.

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On 3/9/2021 at 3:45 PM, Buzunar said:

Duelist sucks at PVE.

Go Maestro  Skill Power build is great in pve , but archer is still best!

 

On 3/10/2021 at 3:43 PM, ABnD said:

With your setup you're more regular crit dmg and not p.skill crit dmg build. I'd suggest keeping the titan or work more towards a pskill build if you wanted to switch to duelist.

thx for your replys.

I read something on 4 game forums. "like duelist has tripple sonic slash, sonic slash (they have higher basic skill critical rate, i mean not 10%, its easier to crit with them)"

and if this is true, then I think build skill crit duelist may work for pve.

So, Looking for tyrr duelist player to confirm this information?

many thanks 

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at the moment.

I have got +6 cancer (6% rate), Altas earing aug (3% rate). plus POM (25%), AP (10% rate)

I did small text on titan. not big data, but it was like 49 crits over 279 skill use (Mega Strike), so it is like 17.56% skill critical rate.

I will do similar test when i switch weapon SA to skill crit rate (18% that I could get max for now)

 

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Now I switch my main to Duelist, thx for red libra and stone of destiny

Items updates for skill crit rates

+6 cancer (6%)

+12 Atlas earing aug (5%)

+5 Bless Angel earing (4%)

+6 Angel ring aug (5%)

AP (10%)

+8 Artifact skill crit rate balance (7%) thx for the artifact sales :D

Weapon SA (10%)

POM (25%)

Potential Force (?? unkown % increase, it only said greatly increase skill crit rate)

 

I havent done an actual skill crit rate test, but i feel that the skill crit rate is greater than 1/3, because when i use tripple sonic slash, sonic flash and mega strike combo, 1 skill must be crit damage, and i feel the sonic flash skill crit rate is even greater. 

 

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I did little test with above items and skills, here are the outcomes

Triple sonic slash (without Potential Force)

1. 20 crit hits / 50 hits

2. 21 crit hits / 50 hits

3. 16 crit hits / 50 hits

4. 17 crit hits / 50 hits

5. 17 crit hits / 50 hits

6. 15 crit hits / 50 hits

7. 24 crit hits / 50 hits

8. 22 crit hits / 50 hits

Total 152 crit his / 400 hits = 38% crit hits

 

Triple sonic slash (with Potential Force)

1. 3 crit hits / 16 hits

2. 6 crit hits / 16 hits

3. 5 crit hits / 17 hits

4. 12 crit hits / 17 hits

5. 8 crit hits / 17 hits

6. 7 crit hits / 18 hits

Total 41 crit hits / 101 hits = 40.6%

 

doing this test is time consuming :(, I will do some more test later

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On 4/24/2021 at 7:36 PM, Jokerzz said:

Now I switch my main to Duelist, thx for red libra and stone of destiny

Items updates for skill crit rates

+6 cancer (6%)

+12 Atlas earing aug (5%)

+5 Bless Angel earing (4%)

+6 Angel ring aug (5%)

AP (10%)

+8 Artifact skill crit rate balance (7%) thx for the artifact sales :D

Weapon SA (10%)

POM (25%)

Potential Force (?? unkown % increase, it only said greatly increase skill crit rate)

 

I havent done an actual skill crit rate test, but i feel that the skill crit rate is greater than 1/3, because when i use tripple sonic slash, sonic flash and mega strike combo, 1 skill must be crit damage, and i feel the sonic flash skill crit rate is even greater. 

 

After maintenance, they said the accessory aug is fixed. so i did another little set of test

here are the result with exact same set up as above

Triple sonic slash (without Potential Force)

1. 25 crit hits / 50 hits

2. 24 crit hits / 50 hits

3. 20 crit hits / 50 hits

4. 30 crit hits / 50 hits

5. 26 crit hits / 50 hits

6. 27 crit hits / 50 hits

Total 152 crit his / 300 hits = 50.666% crit rate

 

Triple sonic slash (with Potential Force)

1. 8 crit hits / 18 hits

2. 9 crit hits / 18 hits

3. 11 crit hits / 18 hits

4. 9 crit hits / 17 hits

5. 8 crit hits / 15 hits

Total 45 crit hits / 86 hits = 52.325%

 

Maybe the test for potential force is not enough, but it looks like potential force doesnt give an significant skill crit rate increase.

and with above set up, the tripple sonic slash is about 1/2 skill crit rate, which is not bad. 

I didnt do the sonic flash test, but during XP, I observed that sonic flash crit a lot.  and i guess it is not going to be lower than 1/2.

So, I think although duelists dont have an extra key class buff (eg. GK got bison, titan got rage, DN got focused attack, even maestro got a 1 hand passive), but duelists have 2 extra high skill cirt rate attack skills (tripple sonic slash + sonic flash). and plus infinity strike and sonic (high crit rate skills), duelists do have some good PVE damage

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