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  1. If the game was fun and rewarding people would grind, even if for a few hours a day after work. Look at any ARPG game which is all about grinding like POE/Diablo/Warframe...wildly popular and all about farming and grinding. Your right people don't want to grind forever just for a negligible amount of XP for years and that's it, which is what L2 has become. No cool drops, no rare items from farming, nothing to collect or achieve through farming and grinding. This is why people botted and why botting is a game feature, poor game design. Even an idler game designed from the ground up to
  2. Yeah seeing the whole remaster stuff brought me here, figured if this game is still ticking after all these years, and a modern game engine remaster is coming that this game was cared for well by its owners. After having "played" the last couple weeks, seeing the owners halt character creation and push people away vs welcoming them, seeing what they've done to this poor game over the years, and seeing first hand what this game has become....L2 is not in the hands of caring loving developers with a passion for their product, and a connection with their fanbase. Im worried for remaster
  3. Seems like the game is centered and designed around maybe 10-20 uber whales. Im sure if stuff was reasonably priced with reasonable results they would make much more money and have a happier community. Im all for them making this game one giant idler game, just theres no loot so the botting they put into the game is just to watch one bar very slowly rise, which is fine if im getting cool drops along the way. I think they forgot how to make a game that is fun and would just rather chase a handful of whales. Rumors of an L2 remastered brought me here but what im seeing from NCsoft is that
  4. IMO queue is the same every time, 150-120 peak weekend under thereafter, many parts of the day no queue but still tons of lag regardless. While the number shown may be an arbitrary counter, disabling new character creation for such a long period of time, during an unique global situation where people have tons of free time suddenly....would have otherwise been a rare chance to capitalize and draw new life into an old game... Its comical to disable new characters and not expand capacity at this time tbh.
  5. New player here: yes I was absolutely amazed how many people "play" and I was literally looking for an idler game to do its thing in the background while I work from home. Granted the active play is dated, the money sink to compete is dumb, and the comic value of a game that had to incorporate botting as game features to counter poor game design wears quickly. I know NCsoft has always had a hatred of its American/western markets, I remember it from when aion was new and they were pissed their beloved game flopped here, and im sure NCsoft has little care for a market where is nearly ident
  6. and you need a new hobby clearly.... we can maybe help you find a place you will be happy? or you just act like a salty little kid always? im new here so I don't know.
  7. id settle for usable gear to occasionally drop for all farming areas....you know...like most other mmorpgs. The crazy farm quests, imo, are a nice addition to the idler tier gameplay and intense farming needs of the game, im cool with that... but this game really lacks a drop system, and itemization. so boring people go after a couple items then just spend $$$ to upgrade them. I actually dislike the fact that I have to wait for a quest to get all the gear I need. Its the least interesting way to get gear. People who play this game like grind and farming, else any other
  8. That was his only post so it was probably an advertisement, it sounds like an advertisement, also program running on your PC isn't going to fix the fact there are too many people maxing out their server. expanding capacity of the server, or a new server is the only fix.
  9. So yeah the appeal for me is the idler style gameplay, im stuck working from home and most idler games are predictable and shallow. At least theres some sociability with long standing parties, some pvp to spice things up (me looking over and seeing the party is all dead I guess is pvp?) So yeah flawed game for sure but still fun. Thank you everyone who gave some details into my questions. Just to keep what I feel is a VERY useful discussion going, as its impossible to find this info elsewhere.... I want to get into this "must spend $50-$100 a month" info a bit more. I
  10. considering im an adult and just looking for level headed discussion about the game, maybe this isn't the right thread for you to respond to. Telling people to avoid the game you need to spend money is well...kid talk...I mean I bet you work for free all the time so maybe im in the wrong here. anyway I don't mind spending a few bucks and that seems to be the only thing people read out of a rather large paragraph with other questions...I get it...spend some cash...ok...next question... but thank you everyone else for level headed responses. im just gonna treat the game a
  11. not sure how this warped into a free to play only find another game without paying thread. Also this isn't my first pay to win rodeo...im familiar with a lot of people thinking you need to be some millionaire who can afford $15-$20 a month (aka gainfully employed) for a game...and a lot of people who maybe never work and don't have access to money tend to over react to spending money.... Ive seen quite a few games with a big wallet warrior mechanic, though im not looking to be ranked, or number 1 or even number 50 for that matter....just to be able to play with others is fine.
  12. Thanks for the reply. I can understand the game is sort of in a strange spot, given ive been legally botting for a few days now.... My question for you, is it impossible to obtain gear through playing the game? Everyone tells me I must pay, pay, pay for gear....how do the people im buying the gear from get it? Im not 100% against a few bucks to enchant the gear ect, granted I can only imagine the money pit that will become, so maybe id hold off on that. I don't see any options to really pay to do much to be frank, the cash shop is really lacking on info tbh...which a
  13. Not sure why I downloaded and started playing but it happened and now im lv99 in blazing swamps in an afk parting legally botting. Ive sorta been digging this game as an idler and I feel like theres probably a lot of stuff to do when im not auto farming since this games incredibly old. Granted its aged well imo... So anyway ive seen a few threads and bits of info about what L2 is like after I clear out this blazing swamps area....and that its more or less game over for a new player or someone who isn't going to spend $200 a month on the cash shop....I find this hard to believe....
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