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I selected the Karas talismans from the event, only to be greeted by a timer AFTER THIS LAST UPDATE?!?!? As our reward we can chose 4 packs, all with a 10 days each talisman, but you make the boxes disappear after 5 days? WTF? Where is the logic? What is wrong with you guys? stop being so F$%&ING CHEAP and greedy... we pay THOUSANDS as your customers and you are so petty that you cant even let us USE the "reward" in the game?

@GM_EVA @Wisp @Hermes The summons on the summoners, due to not being able to have buffs are near useless in PVP. Great damage, but zero buffs mean they have no defense for anything, sleep, root etc EVERYTHING lands, everytime. The "transfer" or summoner stats isn't transferring as it relates to summons properly. The Summons only stop attacking (even after something is dead) IF you hit stop. This makes them hang on dead mobs. The summons are SLOW, as again, they aren't getting stats from the summoner, just attack stats. The HP are ungodly low for summons, when the games mobs hit for 100k, it's useless as the summons get one shot. You arent able to give the summons ANY buffs, save for 2-3 specific buffs, this means any self buffs that help with reflect, dont work on the summons, and due to zero buffs and low HP, summons kill themsleves in PVP almost instantly through reflect. ALSO, Summons will hit a PC for 1 million damage, but die to reflect, and it ends up NOT actually doing damage to the PC. So if no damage is done to the PC, how was it reflected to kill the summon? By making the summons "auto attack EVERYTHING" you've taken away the summoners only non target AOE, and the proc on the skills it pretty bad, to say the least. The damage is just about perfect imo, but the survivability is really, really bad. The Summon Barrier no longer includes the summons, the heals for the power they have, are entirely too long of a cool down. In a game where you have made EVERYTHING offensive, having summons, without ANY BUFFS and only 100k hp, is a joke. Great update, it was about a decade overdue, but you have some SERIOUS issues with the summons, please get with the DEVS to fix these issues and make the summons the way they should, and please let's not take another 10 years to fix things. The actual SUMMONER, is spot on in regards to damage... the summons need some serious work however, just way too buggy, they don't react right, two of the summoners class summons attack slower than molases in January, one of your summons is supposed to "act as a tank" but that's VERY hard to do when it has zero buffs and only 100k hp.

It was simply the price increase, it doesn't matter that you can buy them in town, it doesn't matter that you could run toons to level 105 and buy them with mentee coins. The point of the post was things in the store, to include doubling the price of the armor enchants and other things, have gone UP with this update, and the player base has asked a million times to bring prices down. Its a digital store that is a straight copy so there isn't any reason, aside from greed, to increase prices of 1110001010101's as you hit a button and you have an item. @GM_EVA @Hermes @Wisp all said you were going to make things better, double price for items and trying to hide it behind "gold coins" is why your player base dislikes, and has disliked your company for decades. The shady way you treat the NA servers and the blatant dislike and overcharging of players on North American servers is out of hand.

As the second highest level summoner in NA I would hope you take my opinion with its weight. The summons Hp are pretty low.

@GM_EVA Why are things like pantheon passes more expensive in the Einhasad shop? it went from 70 to 80 nc coin. Why is it when the community tells you things are too expensive, you increase prices? Has inflation somehow made the digital supply chain cost more to poof a pass from thin air into existence and it now cost 10 more nc coin to make that happen? Or is this just one more nail in your coffin of not listening to your player base and just wanting more, more, more from your customers? You literally make me sick with how you treat us.

@GM_EVA So will this new update improve the HORRIBLE drop rate of the Grater Rune Stones? Or you all just going to keep them out of the game to try and make money form event boxes? Someone one bet 50$ you wouldn't answer, I'll give 100$ to charity if you answer honestly here and post the receipt... Don't worry, I'm not afraid of you actually answering.. You all only seem to answer questions that don't involve you doing slimy things to try and take money from us.

Just because you like it in the tail pipe, doesn't mean the rest of us do. We don't have high prices simply "because". Our prices and the loot box gambling merry go round exists ONLY because the USA doesn't have laws in place to protect people from predatory marketing and pricing. PERIOD. Nc Soft COULD treat us like other servers, they COULD treat us and give us the same prices, they CHOOSE not to. And the more people know, the more they understand how unfair our pricing is, yes, that is the hope, they stop buying things. You coming in here to troll and put people down or talk/act like you only know and everyone else is dumb doesn't help the player base AT ALL. Be proactive, be positive, help inform other players.

No way, let them disappear into nothing, maybe they'll get replaced by competent people!

Hard to believe a company they has literally NEVER followed through with ANYTHING they have posted regarding "getting better". fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, try and fool me 1000 more times, it not a mistake or management or any other excuse, this many times, for this many years, it's on purpose.

Here is someone who had some nc coin already purchased, gave it a shot... this is what 50$ looks like folks! This is THE worst return I have EVER seen in an event. Save your money folks... 50$ would buy you 2 copies of Lineage 2 years ago, now they expect people to drop double and give them near nothing in return. SAVE YOUR MONEY!

lol, funny yet accurate

@GM_EVA Your company said, you can expect increased communication, that lasted a week. Your company said, We are committed to rebuilding and strengthening our connection with the community...... I don't really think I need to respond to this, its pretty much a joke so far. You said - Your feedback and insights will play a vital role in shaping the future of Lineage II, yet all of our feedback has obviously NOT been listened too. Our #1 feedback is gear starvation for regular players and loot box gambling and the prices associated with them. Yet here we are, a month and a half after than announcement, and your loot box casino prices have steadily risen to levels never seen before. YOUR PRICES ARE INSANE. one box is nearly 5$ EACH, and you need 100 + boxes for anything of significance. Your Boxes never actually contain what the % chance of each item in that box's is to win. And we have shown, repeatedly with things like probability and real math, how the chance % you do show, is not and never has been a true representation of a winning percentage. If our feedback is going to play a vital role in shaping the future if lineage 2. The cut these prices and start listening to your player base before you don't have one.

Your prices are %$#&ing INSANE. 500$ for a 5% chance for something? Show me ANY game in a casino with those same odds that requires a minimum BET, because that's what this is.. were gambling, of 500$ that has odds of 5%? Oh wait.. casinos CAN'T do that, because they are regulated and it's illegal to not give people a fair chance in a casino. But the gaming industry isn't regulated so you can be a slimy as you want to be. You ignore your player base and continue to gouge them and create an unwinnable casinos, over and over again... NC Soft America is officially WORSE than NC Soft West EVER was. Everything you posted, none of it was true.. not that we ever thought it would be different , this just confirms it.

I honestly don't even know why they have this anymore. They never tell you when they change the rules, when you ask it's never a straight answer, and when you EXPECT them to abide by the rules that they have written out, often times you will receive the answer of "We are allowed to do whatever we want, and in this instance we aren't going to replace your item" This has happened multiple times to numerous people where they have refused to abide by the rules they have posted and just simply taken an item from someone who would have never attempted the OE if they knew NC Soft wouldn't abide by their own rules. If you are going to attempt a restoration, you better get a senior GM to tell you 1. The item is restorable 2. if it breaks, they WILL restore that item. if they don't say that, don't even try.

Still have a HUGE greater rune stone issue with lack of stones on the server. @GM_EVA ignoring the issue doesn't make it go away, nor is your player base going to simply "forget" the fact that you are doing this on purpose. Do you think, honestly, that a game filled with seasoned gamers, is just totally cool with you constantly taking things out of the game, simply because you want to create an unbalanced supply versus demand model that you think you'll somehow be able to ekk more money out of us with? You have HAD to notice the lack of spending, and the droves at which once high paying customers are leaving. You tried things your way for years, and its failing. Try listening to your player base for once, it literally could not turn out worse. PUT GREATER RUNE STONES ON THE SERVER!!!!!!!!!!!

Greed is what happened to lineage2. Instead of producing a Game, they decided to produce an unregulated casino and take advantage of the fact the USA doesn't have regulations around video games and gambling. No one at NC Soft west cares if we enjoy the game, no one cares if its fun, no one cares how horrible the game gets, or unbalanced, or if things work the way they are supposed too. They care about EBITDA and revenue, and ensuring no one gets anything in the game.

Did you try opening a ticket instead of spamming the forums? GM's don't read forums.. common man!

World of War Craft still has over 1 million players. The age of the game has nothing to do with it, it is how the game is ran. The game WOULD have plenty of life if NC Soft West had any kind of business savvy at all and treated it's NA players fairly. Which is the point of the post. NC Soft West could make much much more if they didn't drive their player base away with 400% mark up.

Id sign up for this in a heartbeat!

100$ for 3 chances to get a +1 on your greater Agathon... WOW.. what a deal.. I'll be so sure to buy so many boxes! I mean, Lineage 2 only cost 20$ brand new, but now in order to play we have to have 15$ a month prestige, $30 a month for an XP rune and we don't even get an item to drop in game that allows us to learn our 110 skills. And lets not forget... 29 other "random items" before even having a chance at that Great Rune stone.... 5+ posts, all asking for greater Rune stones, thousands of comments... and your "response" is to put them in a box, where people will gamble, and refuse to make them one of the common items. Dear NC Soft Korea, please save us from NC Soft West. You should all be embarrassed, I'm embarrassed for you honestly, its just getting so awkward, like when a kid stands there with chocolate smeared all over his face, and you ask "did you eat the chocolate?" and they say no.. and come up with every excuse why it wasn't them.

The average salary in South Korea is around 3,890,000 KRW (South Korean Won) or USD 2,947 per month (as per the current exchange rate) As of Jun 12, 2023, the average annual pay for an American in the United States is USD 4,880 per month. NC Coin in the NA Server is roughly .0125 cents per coin. That is 100$ = 8000 Nc Coin. As we dont have the option to buy any things with money, we need to use NC Coin, Korea can simply purchase with Won. On the outside, one could understand why our prices are significantly higher, as the claim could be made that people that play on the NA Servers have more money, so NC Soft simply charges them more. Fortunately, the player base of Lineage2 NA can computer and after a bit of research the following comes to light: The Cost of living in korea is 50% less expensive than in the United States. if you adjust for the avg cost of living the disposable income for each is: $1830 in Korea versus $2667 in the USA. If you factor in all of the EU players that play on the NA server this number of disposable income would go do drastically. Calculating that out, it would give the average player in the USA a 31% higher disposable income. Mind you this is an average, this takes into account billionaires, people who live in ural Mississippi with significantly lower costs all the way to those that live in NY City with high end cost of living, these are the averages. So one would assume, that at the very most, NA players would on average pay 31% more for the same items. Yet, as we see below, server transfer in Korea is: 19,800 Won or USD $15 for a server transfer. Our Server transfers are as below USD $50. That is roughly a 70% price mark-up. If NC Soft west was utilizing the business model based on pure cost per customer, our server transfers SHOULD cost, USD $19.65 .. but they don't they cost roughly the price of a new video game at USD $50 If we continue on well see Name change which is 2400 NC Coin which is .0125 for 1 nc coin x 2400 coins = USD $30 the same price as Gender change. In Korea, Name change is 15.45 and gender change is 7.73 cents. The price increase for those services, again if using the "we have more disposable income model" SHOULD be USD $20 for a Name change and USD $10.12 for a gender change. As it sits, it is roughly a 100% price increase and 400% price increase.. both a VERY far cry away from 31% difference in regional disposable income. So, as players and as a server, the NA Server is paying anywhere between 100% to 400% MORE for the same service as the Official Korean server, when our disposable income is only 31% more. Which means not only do we pay 4x more, we get less. Not only do we pay more, our events are SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive, our drop rates are SIGNIFICANTLY lower, we do not have the Einhasad stores to help keep prices on items down. We don't have weekly updates, our forums are not answered in a timely manner and the topics seems very random at which they chose to answer (if at all). So in closing, we pay 400% more for services that are wildly less, not only in value, but timeliness, and caring of the customer. I've asked before and I'll ask again, why are NA Players treated like second class citizens? Why are we charged obscene amounts of money and treated so poorly? If we payed 400% more and were treated 400% better, I might understand.. but to pay this much more and not even have a response in FOUR MONTHS on why the server is starved of Greater Rune Stones ... got an answer for that @GM_EVA? Trust me.. I'm not holding my breath you'll answer.

@GM_EVA nevermind, this isn't any different than any other time. You comment for a week, then it dies off like its some hassle to take an hour out of your day to answer questions for you CUSTOMERS. CUSTOMERS that spend THOUSANDS of dollars. Do you know how we would be treated if we spent the kind of money in this game literally ANYWHERE ELSE in real life? We would have answers, immediately, met with apologies and actual fixes... here? you all ignore us like we dont matter, when the reality is, Lineage 2 does not exist without us. Picking and choosing what questions you answer is painfully obvious, we've asked for feedback or an answer or ANYTHING for this topic, and not only have you refused to answer, but the other MULTIPLE topics about this same issue, that were brought back into view... suddenly are now gone. As if the topics that continue to disappear off of the forums, your player base is dumb enough not to realize? These are 110 skills, they should be dropping in 110 areas so characters of level 110 can get the stones to learn their skills. Neutral zone should drop these stones, Field of silence etc. How long are we going to go without basic 110 skills? 6 more months? Two years? Why are we playing a game where you release content that we can't play, use? You have a choke hold on items to induce scarcity so you can drive up prices, I KNOW you are seeing sever player decline, less spending and interaction in the game. Listen to your player base, try it.. you never have an look at the state of the game.. you literally have nothing to lose.

In addition to removing the penalty, NC Softs need to make the beginning quests give more exp. When a new player finishes up abandoned coal mines they should be at a minimum 110 if not 115. The gap between 105 and players now at 124, for a new player means YEARS before they can join their friends.. and no new player is going to play for years just so they can eventually play with their friends.

L2 for the better part of 15 years didn't have limits. Its part of the fun of the game. With the advent of pay to win, ZERO effort put into balance, or ensuring that skills work/land, there isn't any point to limit clients. Limiting clients wont make people group up, because support doesn't exist at a level to support the server. Why? Because you cant farm adena on a support, and DD's aren't going to half the adena they make for support... its L2, the model forces people to be greedy as everything costs REAL money. If the model stays the same, remove the box limit. If NC Soft wants to make the game how it was 10 years ago (where we can farm in game, skills land, classes have balance, there are quests, we can craft anything because all the mats are in game) then yeah.. I would FULLY support a client limit of 1. But we all know that will NEVER happen... so just remove the limit.

@GM_EVA You have answered many posts, but apparently have simply refused to answer the ONE issue nearly the entire server is upset about. The starvation of Greater Rune stones from the server. There are level 120+ characters that don't have 110 skills because your team decided to change a drop rate that was fine in the game. @Wissp suggested you were going to be more active and more transparent, part of doing that is answering questions the community wants answers to, not just the easy ones you feel like answering. I find it odd, you have answered multiple posts with "I have provided your feedback ....." Yet nearly EVERY POST about Greater Rune Stones goes unanswered and ignored. More of the status quo and what we have learned to expect from your "community" team. And yes I put community in quotes because the definition of community is: a feeling of fellowship with others, as a result of sharing common attitudes, interests, and goals. And Rest Assured , when you gouge us, ignore us, take items that drop in the game and remove them to turn them into a unable to win casino game, we feel ANYTHING BUT a feeling of fellowship. I ask you to take a VERY hard long look at the definition of Community and ask yourselves if you think we... the players, feel like any of that applies to the way we are treated? Put the items back in the game, don't wait for the next update in 3 months, increase the drop rate SIGNIFICANTLY in the next patch, you released new skills FOUR MONTHS AGO, and the majority of the server can't learn them... this is beyond ridiculous.