Ambicija Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Many people talking about enchanting. I fact they just like to gamble...(and lost money). But - exist some things which need to know. So... we have: 1. Enchanting rates can find for most items in l2wiki, some eu/ru forums (admins test) and etc. This is stable - no one official server not changing that rates. 2. Luc stat - which can spam some 'luc lady". Its triger - if get luc lady" - enchant chance 100%. This stat NCSoft sometimes changing - in bad side. We dont know that stats chances - but we can test. 3. Enchanting "spikes" or "windows" - i cant prove, but its only 1 way to explain why sometimes we can enchant item just with 10 scrolls to +10. This "windows' its random - like .. dmg differential 20% -20% or +20. .................... So 2 day ago i was enchanting kaliel bracelet - was plan to make +7. And was good moment to see enchanting rates, luc lady rates. kaliel enchants remain used 5+ 6173 5928 245 2 5926 5475 451 1 5471 5057 414 3 5054 4425 629 2 4423 3882 541 2 3880 3648 232 2 3646 3574 72 2 3572 2883 689 2 2881 2856 25 2 2854 2591 263 2 2589 2107 482 2 2106 1512 594 1 1511 1486 25 1 1485 1269 216 1 1268 1240 28 1 1239 969 270 1 968 189 779 1 5188 5178 10 1 5177 4792 385 1 4791 4136 655 1 4135 3439 696 1 3438 3427 11 1 all 7712 33 mid for +5 (luc 93) 233.70 Allso we have oficial chances: Enchanting level Chance 0 → +1 50% +1 → +2 45% +2 → +3 40% +3 → +4 30% +4 → +5 15% +5 → +6 10% +6 → +7 10% +7 → +8 10% +8 → +9 10% +9 → +10 10% And count how much enchants will need for +5 0.5*0.45*0.4*0.3*0.15=0.00405 chance to get +5 if luc stat +0 Recount to scrolls = 1/0.00405=246.91 scrolls My test result was 233.70 scrolls So we see that also working LUC stat. I make some calculation how much was efected wit luc bonus: % 0.47 lady chance 0.0047 triger % 50 0.50 0.502 0.47 % luc bonus for +1 % 45 0.45 0.453 0.57 % luc bonus for +2 % 40 0.40 0.403 0.70 % luc bonus for +3 % 30 0.30 0.303 1.10 % luc bonus for +4 % 15 0.15 0.154 2.66 % luc bonus for +5 % 10 0.10 0.104 4.23 % luc bonus for +6 % 10 0.10 0.104 4.23 % luc bonus for +7 5+ 0.004050 0.004277 1 1 scrolls for +5 247 234 7+ 0.000041 0.000046 1 1 scrolls for +7 24691 21520 Sad. But after last update my 93luc - give for me just 0.47% luc lady shance. Its not all table - im was lazy to write all. Im use 18.000 scrolls and get +7 bracelet. I was calculated oficial rates and see that will need 24.661 scroll - and I use "just" 18.000 - so i get "personal luc' PS.: not need talk about mistic GOD and write cirkus how triger working. Its simple "oficial chance + (1-oficial chance) * luc chanse". For example shance 10% an luc shace 9% = 0.1+(1-0.1)*0.9=0.181 P.S.2.: in enchant results table can see some strange "windows" when i use 10, 11, 28, 800... scrolls for +5. This is jut my opinion - need more test for prove. Resume: if someone ask me wort to use maphr, nano pots and etc for enchanting - i will say no. If you have 35-93 luc its just 0.5% lady shance 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degus Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1) For the love of god, it CHANCE! Great chart, wish I understand it, all I read was it took 18k scrolls to make a +7, how long did that take you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambicija Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 3 days. And in enchanting most important to understand : what happen in the past - not have connection what will happen in the future. Its mean in you file with 90% chance on +1, next time you can file the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHyperlite Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Nice read. Interesting. Thank you for taking the time to write this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambicija Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, iHyperlite said: Nice read. Interesting. Thank you for taking the time to write this up. In Naia exist 2-3 prof enchanters many years. Have calculated all chances , luc chanses and etc. They play for profit (better to say - its job). Check auktion many years the same people buy all +0 items for enchant +4+5+6+7+8 (with gear) and put for sell this items in auction (also r-crystals with amount 99.999) But they newer not will write here - this people getting salary for this. Edited February 11, 2021 by Ambicija mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambicija Posted February 15, 2021 Author Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) And in the end im use just 13 kain scrolls: https://ibb.co/ph3CDfx Edited February 15, 2021 by Ambicija mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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